To call out a man for barging into me?

You’ve made a number of assumptions there that are incorrect, but never mind.

I can’t be bothered going into any more detail than I already have. Be careful; there are some seriously unpleasant people out there, engage brain before you engage mouth and decide whether it’s worth the risk of verbal abuse or physical assault. That’s all I’m saying.

Your mother “asked him to stop” repeatedly banging her in the back
He responded by punching your son

Unfathomable that you’d think to blame your mother for one single thing in this scenario

especially as she was responsible for your son given you weren’t even in the country

Your teen son didn’t tell you he had been punched In the face by a stranger?

So you did report. Odd not to have said in your original response. Anyhoo… what was the outcome? In terms of cctv footage… could t get a better place that a train station for this to have happened

How should she have phrased it then?

I wasn’t in the country at the time and didn’t find out until several days later, at which point I did. Any other ways you can think of to pick fault with me?

That’s not what I’m saying, as you very well know. My mum could have moved away from this crazy fool, but choose to ‘call him out’ instead, whose reaction was to scream all kinds of abuse and start punching my child.

If it had been me - I would have meekly accepted being hurt, yes, gladly, if it means my child isn’t in the firing line of a lunatic like that. I’m not taking the risk. It’s obvious that these antisocial types have no care or consideration for those around them - why anyone thinks ‘calling them out’ is going to suddenly motivate them to do better, or be better, I don’t know.

Absolutely the right thing to do.

For years now I’ve been aware of the men expecting women to move issue. I stopped doing it. Once you see it you can’t unsee it. And no, of course not all men, but enough that it’s ‘a thing.’

That’s my point in this scenario
Anyone around probably just thought the Op had a beef with someone or was shouting at a security guard

meanwhile the rude twat strolls on by oblivious to what’s going on behind him as he hurries in to the store

It’s because she was shouting it after him rather than addressing him directly.

”Calling out” is fine if you can actually make your point to the person in question.

Yelling out after people is just rude in its own way. No one else wants to hear your petty grievances.

What stopped YOU from reporting to the police?

I did the same experiment and had the same outcome.

She didn’t call the transport police/police. She didn’t like the idea of him travelling alone to London on the train as she didn’t think he’d be safe, so insisted on going with him 🙄 But didn’t think to call the police when he’d been assaulted. He’d have been fine without her.

I’m not saying the man in OP’s example, or mine, weren’t in the wrong - they obviously are. I’m just saying that it’s not necessarily a wise idea to be ‘calling people out’ on their behaviour when we have no idea how they’ll respond. These men can get aggressive and violent - so I don’t think it’s worth the risk. Again, not saying their behaviour is acceptable. But what happens when that person is immediately defensive and aggressive and escalates the thing - are we prepared to deal with that?

Good point

Thing is, people see the reaction and not the action that caused it.

This is an mn thread not a legal trial😂. We can only infer from what the OP has written that her DSs reaction was somewhat lacking. 🤷‍♀️

He’s a teenager
And in the moment was prob just embarrassed
He was also no doubt embarrassed by the shoes his mum was wearing, the fact that a shop assistant spoke to him, the fact that he was in a supermarket with his mum in the first place!

Stranger still

just pay attention to other people and their needs, and work around each other one way or another. If the other person is physically less able or much more encumbered, you move more, otherwise you both adjust in some way - slow down, pause if needbe, move, whatever works. If you’re It takes two to do the pavement tango. Simply what most people do all the time. What you don’t do is treat anyone else like an insensate object which can be ignored and bashed into (and obviously you don’t do it deliberately).

How do we know he didn't say anything after the event? We only get one side of the story and sometimes things get missed out, hence drip feeds not apparent in this case though.

All the DS needed to do in this instance was to be supportive of his mum, not to engage with the man in any way.

So you seem to be saying women should shut up and not complain when they're assaulted, in case a man ends up being assaulted? That's ridiculous, you should have been angry at the violent man rather than expecting your mum to meekly accept being hurt with no comment.

FFS -have a stern word with yourself in the respect most teens male or female are propbably sometimes mortified by their parents just existing let alone shouting at some random in public.
What do you think the son should have done, gone up to the guy and said something or just lamped him? Would you have expected a teen d to have said something in protest or had a 'stern word with her?
The guy's behaviour was bad, but like others said some people are so wrapped up in their own worlds they don't notice anyone or anything around them.
Others are just entitled twats.

I was furious with her.

Why did you blame your mum for asking the man to stop hitting her with a case?

You have run out excuses for why the OP was in the wrong.💅