To expect aggressive dogs to be secured prior to visit?

yep its brood parasitism. they have prioritised their awful vicious dog over her child. absolutely insane!

OP, your child is not safe in that home and is lucky to still have her face intact from what you've written. This is a child safety issue and potentially a matter for the vet, dog warden and police in the future.

No, it's not unreasonable to ask for the dogs to be secured, ideally they would be secure in a different part of the home.

However for a weekend it is probably not realistic nor practical for the dog owners.

so yes your best option is not to visit.

I agree, it's not like dogs are an endangered species. There's no good reason to keep dogs that behave like that around.

YABU to keep taking your child to this place! OMG. Your duty as a parent is to protect the safety of your child above all else. I can't believe you were going to take your child. YABVU!

YABU for not organising to have the dog put down. It was being "rehabilitated" after it bit a child, then it bit your husband. That dog needs to be PTS and you should report it as a dangerous dog if no one else does

YABU to expose your child to this shit. No one needs a relationship with GPs. It's nice to have. But then so is a face.

If they won't prioritise your child, you must

OP has already said they're going to stay away.

Poor child and stupid in laws. Children don’t gain confidence around badly behaved dogs.
The child comes first imo and I am a dog owner.

We are visiting next week

WHY??? They have clearly shown that they value their nasty, bitey animals over your daughter, their granddaughter! There is no way I would be taking a child into that house and would be telling them exactly why.

Agree with your decision. Alternative if not a long distance would be to meet somewhere just for lunch in a public place.

I'm shocked you have ever let your child be in the vicinity of these dogs! Really irresponsible and dangerous.
And your in-laws for idiots for not caring for your child's safety whatsoever.

You need to stop your child going there completely!
Their safety needs to come before keeping relatives happy.

We have just recently turned down a visit to some relatives because there is a dog there which is a potentially risky breed.
Owners were trying to say it would never hurt anyone, if so they wouldn't let it be around kids, other people's kids are around it and it's fine etc, but we explained that we weren't prepared to take the risk of having our kids around it just incase, and that's that.

I think you are absolutely right to change your mind and not take your daughter into that dangerous situation.

However, to prevent your daughter developing a fear of dogs after seeing her father being bitten I would try to find a neighbour with a gentle dog to give her a good experience. My dog has helped a few local children who have had dog phobias or been bitten. With one child, the boy has gone from screaming at the sight of all dogs to hand feeding my dog - it took two years but it was worth it to avoid him having a lifelong dog phobia.

I think a fear of dogs is a difficult one to tackle as there is an inherent risk of any medium/large dog to people either due to poor training, feeling threatened or surprised etc. Also dog owners tend to be biased toward "oh he's a softie really" approach if warning signs or bad behaviour is exhibited.

My DC has a horrible fear of dogs and I can't tell her it's irrational (especially after she was chased and jumped at by a large out of control dog in a park once whose owner didn't seem able to get the dog away). It's logical to be wary of dogs until you really know them.

In the OPs situation I would not be visiting at all. The dog has history of threatening or dangerous behaviour. If you need to travel to see the grandparents I would stay near by and arrange to meet somewhere in a public place without the dogs. It's not worth the risk and not fair to terrify your poor child over a visit to their house.

I ended up with a very bad phobia of dogs due to being growled at and chased as a child (school playground 1970s) so I don't think you should take dd there. It's really scary as a little kid to be faced with a dog who's mouth is near your face.

I have had to work VERY HARD as an adult to try to overcome that fear and not pass it to my dc but in my 50s I m still not 100 % comfortable around dogs.

This one sounds unsafe around dc especially as its already bitten dh (did dc see that? She would have been terrified).

Yanbu and they definitely are being unreasonable and ridiculous.

There’s no way I would take my child.

Why would you risk it.

Do you seriously think anyone will tell you you're unreasonable? Come on... you know you're not.

however this thread will go the way it always does on AIBU - "dogs shouldn't exist at all" etc etc

Don’t be amazed they want to bring the dogs if you insist on not going to theirs. I’m appalled that there’s been more than one incident. Why on earth would you go again?

I have a similar situation to yours OP. As a result my SIL hasn't seen her niece and nephew at her house in years and knows she only comes to ours if the dog is left at home.

WTF have I just read? Why on earth have you been visiting there? I wouldn’t consider putting myself or DH in that position let alone a child. It must be awful for your DD.

I'm shocked/amazed that you allowed the incident where a dog barked at her to get off the couch.

Even more amazed that after the dog tried to attack your child and did attack your husband you've even considered going back again.

Your child is your responsibility, if you take her to a house with aggressive dogs and she gets bitten that is down to you.

I have a child who is nervous around big dogs and I refuse to visit anyone who doesn't put their dog away when we visit. If they don't want to (as is their right in their home) then that's fine but we won't go round.

Tell dh he is going alone or they can visit you. Likely they won't unless ddog is invited...