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AIBU? Council repairs leaving my 86-year-old mum with nowhere suitable to live

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WhiteWinePls · 19/08/2025 18:41

I am my mum’s full-time carer. She is 86 and has lived in her council home for all of her life. She has agoraphobia. That home has now fallen into such a dangerous state that it is uninhabitable while major repairs are carried out — likely for around 6 months.

The council’s “solution” has been to offer temporary accommodation that is completely unsuitable for her, given her needs. My mum, who has paid rent faithfully for decades, is being left with nowhere safe to go. At her age, with her health, this upheaval feels cruel and frightening. They’ve adopted a ‘like it or lump it’ position with no negotiation.

I have managed to find a flat that would keep her safe and stable until she can return home. I can also stay with her to provide the full-time care she needs. The problem is that the landlord is asking for 6 months' rent up front plus a deposit, and I do not have that kind of money as I am a full-time carer.

AIBU to ask if anyone has advice on where to turn — such as charities that could help or schemes like Discretionary Housing Payments — I would be so grateful. Also has anyone ever tried setting up a fundraiser in this situation, and do you think this would be appropriate here?

Grateful for any advice. Thank you.

OP posts:
Ponderingwindow · 20/08/2025 21:17

it could be months or years before the refurbishments are done on the current housing. Your mother just needs to be moved, possibly permanently. The way you were posting, it sounded like the council wanted to put your elderly mother into a 6 story walk-up b&b.

If they gave offered her a flat, help her get set up and work with social services to arrange a care package so this home stays in decent repair and someone monitors her health.

You should not be in this role for many reasons. Talk to the hospital before her discharge and let them know you are stepping back and they need to put a package in place. You can still visit frequently, but you should not be her carer.

FortheloveofCheesus · 20/08/2025 21:17

Op people are looking for information to help you push for the best available outcome for your mum.

It might not be the outcome you want because thats basically not feasible. If people can understand the barriers to different options they can help you push for an outcome better than the rat infested house or unsuitable temporary accomodation, even if its not your perfect solution.

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 20/08/2025 21:16

Your replies just do not match up at all.

Barrenfieldoffucks · 20/08/2025 21:16

This makes no sense at all...again. From an 'agoraphobia' point of view.

A 'hotel apartment'...fine.

A flat...fine.

Your house...not fine.

Somehow she will be cuckoo'd again if she was moved somewhere else, but only of in a flat and not elsewhere. Surely if she was in a flat you could 'camp out' there is the same way you do now? Why does she need a 'hotel apartment'?

WhiteWinePls · 20/08/2025 21:14

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PamIsAVolleyballChamp · 20/08/2025 21:13

WhiteWinePls · 20/08/2025 20:46

@Lambtangine I do live with Mum, as of June this year. But I also have a family and young children that I have left behind and need to go back to. The idea is that I spend half my time with Mum and half my time with them.

How old are these 'youngish' children? Assuming you don't work given all this upheaval @WhiteWinePls? What's your main income?

FortheloveofCheesus · 20/08/2025 21:13

In anycase op one person in a 3 bed council house is massive overoccupancy. Can't you ask for her to swap to a little 1 bed more suitable for her? She doesn't need a 3 bed house anyway.

FortheloveofCheesus · 20/08/2025 21:10

You can't turn down a perfectly fine flat because you would prefer a hotel apartment. Sorry but that isn't a reasonable expectation of the council.

This. If you want luxury, you have to be prepared to pay for it yourself.

If her care needs are so high that she is this vulnerable living alone it sounds like the time has come for a care home etc.

FortheloveofCheesus · 20/08/2025 21:08

Genuinely can't see what form of agoraphobia would mean she can be in:

  • a strange private rented flat
  • hospital
  • council temporary accommodation

But can't possibly stay with you?

Also... how does a house get holes in walls? Surely if your mum has lived there ages there was a point where she's not maintained her home for it to get like this? Its not a hotel, as a renter while the landlord has main obligation for major repairs i don't think its reasonable to do absolutely nothing while a property gets overrun with rats. Why hasn't she moved elsewhere years ago if it wasnt fit to live in?

Digdongdoo · 20/08/2025 21:06

WhiteWinePls · 20/08/2025 20:50

The Council initially suggested a hotel apartment whilst the works were being done. This would be a perfect solution as she would be in a safe environment, whether or not I am there. They then went for the cheaper solution of a flat with no protection.

As for care home, she doesn't really meet the criteria and in any case just wants to go home as soon as she can.

You can't turn down a perfectly fine flat because you would prefer a hotel apartment. Sorry but that isn't a reasonable expectation of the council.

You simply cannot stay in a condemned house. Something has to give.

Namechangetry · 20/08/2025 21:06

How did the cuckooing person get access to your mum and her things when she is bed bound and agoraphobic? And how would that same person get access to her when she's living somewhere else away from her current home, if they're a neighbour at the current home?

Why would your mum be safe in a hotel but not a flat, hotel staff aren't carers and won't stop anyone coming and going?

The updates don't make masses of sense.

Arsed · 20/08/2025 21:00

She can’t go back to the house OP, it is squalid. I’m struggling to imagine a situation a daughter would be happy for their parent to live like that.

If the house is a 3 bed the council
may be able to give her priority for something smaller. She clearly cannot manage a house and you’ve said yourself she was only living in one room.

Are you hoping to succeed the tenancy yourself one day?

edited - typo!

WhiteWinePls · 20/08/2025 20:59

She has capacity and doesn't want to go into a care home I would LOVE for her to come and live with us, but unfortunately her agoraphobia prevents that.

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gamerchick · 20/08/2025 20:57

How can a bedbound elderly lady who needs full time care not meet the criteria for a care home. Who is in hospital on suicide watch?

If you have a home you've left behind along with young kids then why can't she come and live with you?

G0ldC01nTreasure · 20/08/2025 20:57

I thought that you said your DM was bed bound ?

In that case, she would surely meet the criteria to be in a safe, clean, warm Council funded care or nursing home

WhiteWinePls · 20/08/2025 20:50

The Council initially suggested a hotel apartment whilst the works were being done. This would be a perfect solution as she would be in a safe environment, whether or not I am there. They then went for the cheaper solution of a flat with no protection.

As for care home, she doesn't really meet the criteria and in any case just wants to go home as soon as she can.

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Ponderingwindow · 20/08/2025 20:48

If you don’t want your mother moved somewhere and she obviously shouldn’t be left in deteriorated housing, what Do you suggest happens?

WhiteWinePls · 20/08/2025 20:46

@Lambtangine I do live with Mum, as of June this year. But I also have a family and young children that I have left behind and need to go back to. The idea is that I spend half my time with Mum and half my time with them.

OP posts:
Digdongdoo · 20/08/2025 20:45

WhiteWinePls · 20/08/2025 20:26

My concern re. the temporary accommodation comes from a recent cuckooing situation involving Mum. The perpetrator (a neighbour with a drug problem) stole all of Mum’s savings, jewellery belonging to Mum and both of my grandmothers and family heirlooms (my family were a prominent Quaker family so there were lots of valuable historical items). When Mum had nothing left to sell, she stole Mum’s food to the point where Mum ended up in hospital due to starvation.

The police (Bethnal Green Police Station) are aware, but have cited understaffing as their reason for not getting involved. The Council are aware but have told us to “be kind” as the perpetrator has mental health issues.

Luckily, the neighbours got together, started filming the incidents and looked out for Mum by chasing away the perpetrator. This is the point at which I returned home as her carer. However, I also have a family of my own with youngish children, so need to spend time with them as well.

My concern is that if Mum is moved to this new accommodation, we won’t have the oversight of the neighbours when I am not around. This person could start exploiting Mum again and she’ll have no one to protect her.

Well she can't stay in a condemned house can she? Nor can you if you've a home of your own with young children elsewhere!

If there's not actually a suitability issue with the temporary accommodation, I'm not really sure what you're expecting the council to do. What sort of solution are you hoping for?

If your mum can't keep herself safe it's probably time to look into supporting living or a care home.

Lambtangine · 20/08/2025 20:41

Won’t she be far enough away?

also I thought you lived with your mum from your other thread?

WhiteWinePls · 20/08/2025 20:26

My concern re. the temporary accommodation comes from a recent cuckooing situation involving Mum. The perpetrator (a neighbour with a drug problem) stole all of Mum’s savings, jewellery belonging to Mum and both of my grandmothers and family heirlooms (my family were a prominent Quaker family so there were lots of valuable historical items). When Mum had nothing left to sell, she stole Mum’s food to the point where Mum ended up in hospital due to starvation.

The police (Bethnal Green Police Station) are aware, but have cited understaffing as their reason for not getting involved. The Council are aware but have told us to “be kind” as the perpetrator has mental health issues.

Luckily, the neighbours got together, started filming the incidents and looked out for Mum by chasing away the perpetrator. This is the point at which I returned home as her carer. However, I also have a family of my own with youngish children, so need to spend time with them as well.

My concern is that if Mum is moved to this new accommodation, we won’t have the oversight of the neighbours when I am not around. This person could start exploiting Mum again and she’ll have no one to protect her.

OP posts:
PamIsAVolleyballChamp · 20/08/2025 13:13

WhiteWinePls · 19/08/2025 20:10

This was my previous post:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5380701-to-be-scared-to-sleep-because-theres-a-rat-in-my-house?postsby=ScaredOfRat&page=1

The Council were so angry about the fuss I caused, they sent a surveyor round to condemn the house and tell us to leave. This was the same surveyor who said the house was “fine” on his last visit.

I feel like they are punishing us 😔.

The council aren't punishing you... the house has to be condemned, it's uninhabitable, and not from the actions of the council.

Absolutely no way would a vulnerable lady be discharged to there, but the council would need her to surrender the tenancy before moving her elsewhere.

Barrenfieldoffucks · 20/08/2025 13:01

Essentially, it sounds like your would be better in a care home or similar, meaning she is safe and you are free to house yourself and work etc

Arsed · 20/08/2025 12:33

The level of disrepair shown in the pictures on the other thread do not just come from the landlord not undertaking required cyclical repairs, they come from years of tenant neglect, under heating, under ventilating, under occupying (only living in one room), not reporting repairs when required or allowing access for cyclical repairs, and not engaging with support services where required.

Op your mum cannot go back to that property as it’s uninhabitable. You need to take the council up of the other housing options. That house needs months of work and a lot of money to get it in to a condition it is safe to live in, it’s not a quick fix.

PinkCampervan · 20/08/2025 11:52

How old are you OP? I'm asking for a bigger picture because your circumstances are going to be different depending on if your mum got pregnant at 16 (making you 70-ish) or a pre-menopause pregnancy when she was 45 (making you a lot younger).
Have you ever worked?
Have you ever lived alone?

You did initially come across as being a bit entitled, or at best just totally not understanding the system.
But I've been wondering if it's more than that. I can understand your panic if you've never worked, never moved out of the family home or lived totally independently.
And now possibly facing:
Being street-homeless shortly.
Entering the job market for the first time ever.
Losing all your possessions because you're homeless.
Losing the home you've lived in all your life.
Losing your mum's constant company that you've never been without.
Losing your income because you no longer have her to care for.
And you're trying to advocate for your mum and see to her interests on top of all that.
(As well as having some posters thinking you're a scammer).

I know you're probably afraid of getting a kicking for being "a benefit scrounger" but not everyone is horrible (and it's only pixels on a webpage in cyberspace, take a deep breath and ignore it) but you might get some more specific advice for yourself if you're willing to post the bigger picture.

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