To wonder what’s going on with all the big lips

They can look okay, as long as they're not too overdone and all lumpy looking with no border, as you see on some.

I used to have quite naturally pouty lips when I was younger, it was just luck I guess. But then as I approached 40, they started to look like wrinkly, deflated balloons so I've had them pumped up a little.

In the past people used a bit of lipstick wizardry, now they are brainwashed into injecting fillers. It’s a gravy train for the aesthetics industry. I think it always looks fake and don’t get the appeal.

But why does it bother you what they look like? I can guarantee you no beautiful groomed woman is looking at you and writing in forms how plain and boring you look.. it’s always the lesser attractive ones that have something to say. Sad really

Unless someone is putting filler into your face that you didn’t ask to be there then you shouldn’t have a single issue?

I would be more concerned why you feel another woman’s appearance is your business?

All I see is a baboons butt, it's really not an attractive look.

I used to have Botox and fillers in my 40s but after seeing women in their 60s with it I decided to stop as I personally think it looks bad as you age. I do think it’s all personal preference though.

There is a trend at the moment to make yourself look like an inflatable sex doll from a 90’s stag party.

I think naturally big lips are so beautiful, but I don’t like the look of filler (even when people cry that there filler is not subtle/noticeable 99% it still is!)

I do personally like my small rosebud shaped lips even if they’re not in fashion

Hard not to notice all these years. However I was sat next to a table of young women this evening, barely 20, and they all had the same duck lips. So I was struck more by the age more than anything. They all had those huge eyelashes as well and the glow contour make up. Each had a baby/toddler st 10pm in the holiday club show and part of me just felt a sense of despair. Not to judge but guess you can't help but observe and think ugh why, they all looked OTT and not better for it.

Exactly. It can be subtle- doesn’t have to be the extreme version.

What they are seeing in the mirror isn’t what other people are seeing, I guess!😖

I think the general consensus on the thread is that the fashion is extreme and radical - not just a matter of make up or hair colour, but something which changes your physique and might have health implications in some cases. There are cases where it’s gone badly wrong and left the woman in pain and distress. It’s not just a fashion fad - it’s sometimes a medical issue.

Also that it expresses to some pps (inc me) a depressing willingness to undergo what sometimes amounts to self-mutilation in order to satisfy the male gaze, and a not very nice male gaze either!

Several male pps have said they don’t find it attractive but clearly some men do!

I think that’s a fair summary and no offence was intended towards black women who tend to have enviable natural lips.

They do look hilarious and I can’t under why they want to look like that? But their choice I guess.

And that ridiculously over the top make up where they put a white dot on the end of their nose.

Nope.

Big lips, big nails, big eyebrows, big eyelashes, big bums, big boobs seem to be aimed at other girls as far as I can tell.

Where was I sarcastic? Yawn? Sure I’ve not said anything of the sort.

i know nobody is disparaging black womens lips. I know the consensus on the thread is that they look awful- I agree.

however clearly the women who are getting this done don’t think they look awful, they think it enhances their looks. So a fairly big chunk of society does think it looks beautiful, or they wouldn’t be doing it.

There were two women at the hairdressers today and (looking at them in the mirror) the shadow that the lips were casting on their upper lip area looked like they had a moustache

Oh and…is that your takeaway from what’s been said here - that people find the artificial full lips on these women beautiful?

You need to read the thread. I think only one pp would say they’re beautiful!

But it’s OK for you to be sarcastic in your first post (yawn etc) and to misunderstand the focus of the discussion?

I don’t know if you’ve rtft or followed the discussion? It’s clear that nobody is disparaging black women’s lips - we’re specifically discussing the artificially pumped and filled lips fashionable as part of a certain look. Nothing to do with black women, who I think, now you mention it, don’t indulge in this trend.

i agree :)

but I can also see how black women must feel having been treated badly - bullying at school etc for their lips, and to now see white women using fillers to practically recreate their lip fullness which is now deemed beautiful…

calling a black woman “silly” for those thoughts should be called out imo.

I have mine done but that is because my natural lips look like a Geisha girl's if I wear lipstick. It's all about balance as mine are far from looking unnatural and certainly not duck like!

I do think however that some people have far too much filler and it looks like someone has taken a bicycle pump to their lips!

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Full lips on white women have also been seen as desirable - check out Hollywood from the Golden Age through until now - but these artificial treatments to inflate the lips weren’t available then.

There were lots of suggestive ads on TV in the 70s and 80s too featuring white women with full lips. I don’t think there’s any evidence it’s related to white women emulating black women.

In my job, I recently had to deal with a police officer who had pillow lips, awful fake eyelashes and drawn-on eyebrows. I found it really hard to take her seriously.

They always look painful, the skin looks blotchy and uncomfortable.

It’s not silly. Don’t be patronising.

black people historically have had racist comments over their lips and negativity over their natural fullness.

then when white women decide to emulate their lips by injecting whatever into them it’s seen as beautiful and becomes fashionable.

on some level I do believe race is involved, and that the full lips trend has been led by the rise in acceptance of black and mixed race beauty standards.

i mean i remember as a kid watching white women on holiday sun bathing until they were dark brown, and wondering why people seemed to hate black skin, then do everything they could to emulate it.