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To get a bit peeved at MIL/PIL tightness?

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Theroadnottravelled · 19/08/2025 03:58

I know I’ll likely get flamed but we’re staying with my PIL for a week (DH, me,DCs 3 &5) and it’s nice to get away. My PILs aren’t horrid or deliberately nasty but the food situation when they host us is pretty miserable. They eat like birds and just don’t provide enough food. We’ve tried taking/buying stuff with us before but they get offended. For example they’ll cook a pizza for all of us. 4 adults, 2 hungry small people. It’s a small slice each. And some salad. That’s it. Or one piece of toast for breakfast. Or fairy cakes cut in half. Or one crumpet each for tea. I promise it’s not a money thing. They are more than comfortable. It’s just such small portions. I’ve offered that we stay in an Airbnb and cater ourselves but they won’t hear of it. We take the train to see them (it’s a long way and I’m the only driver) so can’t take loads of stuff with us. Arrrgghh. So awkward but we’re all ravenous. How can I broach it?

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Zodiacrobat · 21/08/2025 15:07

Octavia64 · 19/08/2025 10:48

Pretty sure I’ve told this story before but anyway:

pils got fed up with hosting the extended family (they had three kids who all got married and had more kids) so we took it in turns booking a large house to stay in for a weekend and catering the weekend.

each couple in turn hosted their weekend and provided plenty of food and booze.

then it was pil’s turn. They were already pissed off because the cost of hiring somewhere and catering for everyone was more than the cost of food when they hosted but anyway.

so we went on their weekend. Friday was fine - we ate at home and drove down.

Saturday they’d prepped a picnic out, not enough food but dh nipped to the shop and bought a fuckload more.

then we got to dinner. Mil went into the kitchen, and the hours stretched on. And on. We were all getting pretty hungry. Dh went into the kitchen and found mil and FIL arguing about how to get the oven on - dinner hadn’t even been started.

by 11pm we were fucking starving. By this point we’d fed the kids (the other two had brought surreptitious food and they fed their kids in the bedroom, we had to get picnic remnants out of the kitchen to feed our kids).

then I was just so hungry I needed food so I went into the kitchen and got some bread.

mil started crying. She was so upset.

FIL started shouting at me for upsetting mil, I was saying I was hungry and then he got really upset and hit me.

i left the cottage and went into a nearby field for about an hour, really hungry and very upset.

when I came back in we left.

there were no more weekends.

seriously, this sort of thing can cause massive upset in some people.

obviously I refused to ever see them again and it was a good few years before I even considered extending an olive branch.

That is INSANE!!!

omg. I would have reported him to the police, fuck him.

NaughtyTortieOwner00 · 21/08/2025 12:20

adlitem · 20/08/2025 09:34

Exactly. It's not just about volume. It's about ensuring that they get proper food. Which is also why the flap jack alternative is just rubbish. I dread to think what a week of eating secret flap jacks - with the odd crumpet or slice of pizza - would make me feel like.

We had this one crumpet offered to the kids - and when I said that they said they'd do it with baked beans - which I was wtf - and DH tried to insist was a normal meal - never seen him before or since have it.

I veto it on salt grounds - way to much salt given how young there were then and they were given a sandwich with some salad and fruit. We all managed to be polite though DH did seem to think initally I just just let it be - IL were fine with me saying something.

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Robin67 · 20/08/2025 22:06

SpaceRaccoon · 20/08/2025 22:04

@Robin67 not rude in the least! It is indeed penis portions, which is the practice of giving men much bigger portions of food than women.

That would drive me nuts

Robin67 · 20/08/2025 22:04

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 20/08/2025 22:03

The penis portion is a way of describing the very old fashioned habit of giving the menfolk bigger portions of food, and the ladies more delicate ones, @Robin67.

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Ah ok! Thank you @SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius

SpaceRaccoon · 20/08/2025 22:04

@Robin67 not rude in the least! It is indeed penis portions, which is the practice of giving men much bigger portions of food than women.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 20/08/2025 22:03

The penis portion is a way of describing the very old fashioned habit of giving the menfolk bigger portions of food, and the ladies more delicate ones, @Robin67.

Robin67 · 20/08/2025 22:01

SpaceRaccoon · 19/08/2025 13:36

@justasking111 your poor mum! That's unforgivable.

My PIL are fine (apart from a bit of penis portion nonsense), but we know to pack copious room snacks of staying with my SIL and family. Tiny portions, you go to bed starving if you don't.

They're both... not thin. We think they snack secretly.

Dear @SpaceRaccoon, would it be rude of me to request some additional information about "penis portion nonsense"? I am wondering if it is a typo. But I am hoping that it is not, and that there is one hell of a back story.

Sweatybettyinthisheat · 20/08/2025 21:59

We have ILs who are tight like this. The most memorable lunch was one small chicken between 5 adults (not overweight) and 2 growing teens, 2 small roast potatoes and a desert spoonful of peas each and worst of all VERY runny gravy. They even made the point about hoping for leftover chicken for the next day! Dessert was a petit filous tiny pot each. Yet when they come to us FIL eats like a gannet!

Now when we visit we have a big breakfast before the drive, pack snacks, and have a bigger meal when we get home. We refuse to stay overnight. Their cat gets a bigger bowl of biscuits than the cereal they spoon out!

Robin67 · 20/08/2025 21:52

Calliopespa · 19/08/2025 22:23

But equally, can't they just have extra "sneaky" snacks for the week?

It all cuts both ways: everyone on MN gets too wound up about having to do things differently for a relatively short space of time. It's actually good to teach children to be adaptable. That' not to say the GP are in the right; they should be adaptable too - and more aware. But all this "this or that MUST happen" is quite OTT. Sometimes we mend and make do in life; it's actually a skill. These days many people seem to need trauma counselling if their "food preference boundaries" are infringed for a few days. you can keep children fed without it needing to be at the dining table with cutlery for one week.

At 3 and 5 though?

Wrenjay · 20/08/2025 21:06

Robin67 · 19/08/2025 20:11

So many questions! Apologies if you have already addressed them
Did you ever pull them up on any of this?
What did your other half say/ do?
Why didn't you just refuse to feed them ( oh what a lovely surprise, sorry we don't have enough, if you just wait, we will be done soon)
What happened when you changed lunchtime?
What are PILs like?

PIL never mentioned any problems until later with BIL and DIL. DIL was distant in nature. When we changed the meal times they came round a couple of times and then stopped. Neither I nor DH said anything and to this day DH does not want to acknowledge there was a problem. BIL is now divorced and we no longer see him. My parents always fed everyone in the home, no matter who. The saying was "Divide small and supply all". So it was quite a time before I cottoned on to what BIL was doing. It was my kind neighbour who opened my eyes when she asked when was it our turn to go to their house for a meal.

Calliopespa · 20/08/2025 20:07

Inertia · 20/08/2025 11:35

Eating while on the move is fair enough- children understand that usual mealtime arrangements don’t apply.

However, a week of telling lies in order to buy and hide food and then eating in secret does not teach children about healthy food or healthy relationships. Children should not have to engage in subterfuge to avoid hunger at their own grandparents’ house.

Well then they will have to address it; it really is that simple.

But they don't need to starve - or feed the children flapjacks for a week. That's really my point.

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I agree and was being sarcastic based on other responses. Apologies if that was not clear.

RampantIvy · 20/08/2025 12:46

Just feed your children normally and model good parenting and healthy food behaviours, rather than sneaking around trying to hide a normal food intake to try to appease controlling people who choose to feed starvation rations to their grandchildren.

I agree with this ^^

There is no way I would pussy foot around these people with weird ideas about food. If it offends them, I don't care. They have offended me by not feeding my children properly. And if they kicked up such a stink that it is impossible to stay I would just go home.

People like this won't change their behaviour if people continue to walk on eggshells around them.

waterrat · 20/08/2025 12:41

This is about your dh understanding he is now a parent and has to put his children first. Not see himself primarily as the child of his parents.

Children's food needs come before those of adults. Any adult who cant speak up and set this boundary however politely...and assertively...is being weak. Sorry.

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adlitem · 20/08/2025 12:23

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Just sneak out for come pre cooked chicken. Or have a nectarine. Sorted.

godmum56 · 20/08/2025 12:21

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loving "noodle spined"

DarklingIlisten · 20/08/2025 12:13

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Southern25 · 20/08/2025 12:09

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I get that , but I’ve already gave the OP my opinion.
It’s a very simple fix. Invite them to hers so she can eat and drink as much as she wants or just don’t go at all.
No one is forced to do anything. If her husband is such a wet blanket he won’t say anything, then the OP should.

I wouldn’t tolerate this behaviour, starving my family and I’m sure you wouldn’t either.

My kids happiness would become before my in-laws. If they are offended - tough

And why should the OP who doesn’t drive have to take her family on the train to see her
tight in-laws , who deprive them of food when they get there ? What fun is there in this ?

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Southern25 · 20/08/2025 11:56

I think the issue sometimes is some people are small eaters ( usually older people) so forget that a growing family need lots more food. Kids need snacks, but some older people won’t have this in their cupboards because they don’t eat it.

I stayed at a family members before who didn’t use milk so didn’t have any in the fridge. I politely said our kids eat breakfast cereal so went out and got some from the local shop.

Some people invite people to stay with them yet don’t have basics such as bread and milk.

I find this totally bizarre.

Cakeandusername · 20/08/2025 11:47

I think popping out to buy chicken and eating it in secret is madness.
Just have the conversation.
Don’t be so polite. If a tiny pizza is brought out give kids a normal portion and if there’s none left for hosts then it hits home how silly they are - oh I assumed there was more pizza in kitchen, one small pizza can’t possibly serve 6, I’ll let the children eat and go and buy more etc.

Inertia · 20/08/2025 11:35

Calliopespa · 20/08/2025 10:32

But this is just trying to present objections.

Of course you wouldn't stash chicken under your mattress. They aren't house prisoners as well are they? You pop out to "get something posted" etc and grab some pre-cooked chicken and a punnet of cherry tomatoes.

We have travelled with young children a lot over the years and there isn't always someone to "speak to" about the food. You get good at managing it. Actually one of mine is just having an impromptu nectarine on the move, sliced into pieces with a kiddy knife. Lots of mmm and yums going on. It's what you make of it. And honestly, its only a week.

I mean I agree, I'd find a way to say something. Actually, I wouldn't have to as DH would BUT the scenario OP has painted is that she and DH feel it would create more conflict than they want to cause.

Eating while on the move is fair enough- children understand that usual mealtime arrangements don’t apply.

However, a week of telling lies in order to buy and hide food and then eating in secret does not teach children about healthy food or healthy relationships. Children should not have to engage in subterfuge to avoid hunger at their own grandparents’ house.

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