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To think parents are more responsible for the relationship with an adult child?

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footballfan1963 · 18/08/2025 21:48

My oldest dd is 24 and our relationship is a bit strained. She was living away for university and is now back living at home with dd2 (22, also back home post graduation) and dd3 (18).

Dd1 has become quite distant and uncommunicative. She goes in and out to work without even a hello or goodbye. She is quite likely autistic but hasn’t as of yet looked into a diagnosis. If her behaviour is a result of possible autism, that’s absolutely fine but I’m worried.

A few months ago she was upset at the actions of Dh and I. We had booked a ballet performance for me, Dh and dd3 and didn’t ask her. She was very hurt and upset about this. I felt bad and sincerely apologised to her. Since then, there’s been a few other things that have upset her and I seem to be walking on eggshells a bit.

There has also been a long standing issue between dd1 and dd3. Dd3 developed an intense dislike for dd1 nearly 2 years ago and we don’t know why. Dh and I try and support both of them without getting involved but it’s hard when they both claim they’re being bullied.

I had a difficult relationship with my own mother who blamed both me and my sister for everything, and didn’t do much for nurturing the relationship. Maybe this has clouded my view but I always thought when I became a parent that the relationship with your child is paramount and it’s the parent’s responsibility to maintain it.

Dd2 also claims that her older sister is hard to live with saying she is passive aggressive, never apologises and seems to care only about our cat.

I feel so disconnected from dd1 and don’t know how to get it back.

Is it all my responsibility or do adult dc also have a part to play in their relationship with their parents? I keep reading about people going NC with their parents, they must have good reasons for this and I want to be the best parent I can be.

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footballfan1963 · 19/08/2025 09:27

@goldtrap no she wouldn’t talk to Dh unless I wasn’t around. I’m her safe person and she relies on me for emotional support. I don’t think that’s uncommon for mums to be the one providing this. Dd2 is close to both me and Dh, but it’s me she comes to for emotional support when needed.

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footballfan1963 · 19/08/2025 09:24

user1492757084 · 19/08/2025 09:01

Have you suggested that both DD1 and DD2 move out and start living with friends?
It is difficult to come back to live with parents.
Your older daughters might enjoy some independence, either together or with separate groups of friends.

If you have the funds, you could help them save for deposits for their own flats.
You could also suggest that they meet with a career advisor to assist with their plans to be successful and create wealth and security for themselves.

Your eighteen year old is still living at homeand is more your parental responsibility.
It is a positive thing when your adult children don't need you so much and you become more like supportive older friends.

Dd2 is very independent and has really outgrown living at home. But she’s saving up to go travelling and can only do that by living at home. She wants to go to Australia next year, not sure of her plans after that.

Dd1 is a trained dancer and hoping to break into the field which isn’t easy. She’s working hard at 2 jobs and is about to start an intensive professional course. She’s always been quite quiet and shy, she does have friends (recently went to Japan with school friends) but not a big social circle. I dont want to push her out of home until the time is right as I think that would be damaging. This is her home and she is entitled to stay here.

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footballfan1963 · 19/08/2025 09:19

Ok to play devil’s advocate then, if an (adult) child WAS actually being bullied either by a sibling or someone else, how would you deal with that?

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PamIsAVolleyballChamp · 19/08/2025 09:10

goldtrap · 19/08/2025 09:02

Sure. But the point is, you weren't there. And she has a way of arguing her point because you are listening to it. If you give oxygen to all 'bullying' incidents, then is everything 'bullying'? It sounds like it would be helpful - for both of you - to detach for a bit! Is there another parent in the house? Would she message her dad about lightswitch-gate? If not, why not?

This, is dd1 in the house and can see/hear all the attention and oxygen give to dd3 re this?
No wonder she withdraws.

Daleksatemyshed · 19/08/2025 09:09

I know your DD3 sees it as bullying but isn't your older DD allowed to turn a light off if she wants to? Be honest Op, have you accommodated your DD3 over her sisters so much that now she's used to her own way so sees any attempt by your older girls to do as they want as bullying?
My DB had MH problems and I got used to my DM putting him first but it made living with him difficult, I left by 22 to get away from it.

Simonjt · 19/08/2025 09:06

You suspect your oldest daughter has autism, your youngest daughter does have autism, how come you only sought assessment for one of them? Is it a case that the diagnosis of the youngest only made you realise traits in your oldest once she was already an adult, or is this due to favouritism and so the youngest was once again seen as a priority over the oldest?

They’re both adults, if one called me about a light switch when I was away I would tell them to grow up and start acting like adults.

goldtrap · 19/08/2025 09:02

footballfan1963 · 19/08/2025 08:46

@goldtrap re the light switch thing - on the face of it, it seems like a petty childish squabble. But dd3 has this way of arguing her point, convincing me it WAS bullying (ie doing something to deliberately upset the othrr person), don’t I care, suppose someone else was bullying dd3, wouldn’t I care etc etc

Sure. But the point is, you weren't there. And she has a way of arguing her point because you are listening to it. If you give oxygen to all 'bullying' incidents, then is everything 'bullying'? It sounds like it would be helpful - for both of you - to detach for a bit! Is there another parent in the house? Would she message her dad about lightswitch-gate? If not, why not?

user1492757084 · 19/08/2025 09:01

Have you suggested that both DD1 and DD2 move out and start living with friends?
It is difficult to come back to live with parents.
Your older daughters might enjoy some independence, either together or with separate groups of friends.

If you have the funds, you could help them save for deposits for their own flats.
You could also suggest that they meet with a career advisor to assist with their plans to be successful and create wealth and security for themselves.

Your eighteen year old is still living at homeand is more your parental responsibility.
It is a positive thing when your adult children don't need you so much and you become more like supportive older friends.

footballfan1963 · 19/08/2025 08:46

@goldtrap re the light switch thing - on the face of it, it seems like a petty childish squabble. But dd3 has this way of arguing her point, convincing me it WAS bullying (ie doing something to deliberately upset the othrr person), don’t I care, suppose someone else was bullying dd3, wouldn’t I care etc etc

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goldtrap · 19/08/2025 08:31

footballfan1963 · 19/08/2025 08:11

No it’s not @hadenoughnows but dd3 claims SHE is the one being bullied. Last weekend Dh and I were away for a night. Dd3 said that dd1 kept turning the lights off after dd3 had put them on. Obviously I wasn’t there and I haven’t heard dd1’s side of the story but it sounds like dd1 does things to deliberately piss her sister off. Then dd3 kept sending me definitions of bullying to back up her claim that she was being bullied.

In this instance I'd say, look, you are all adults. Please stop involving me in your light switch wars. I wasn't even there, so I'm not that interested.

You don't need to hear the side of any story! It sounds like you are the audience to a lot of the drama.

Although you are looking for connection, perhaps it's time to detach a bit from the walking on eggshells. By trying to please everybody, sounds like you're pleasing no one. So give yourself permission to take a break from peace talks for a couple of days and be busy with your own things.

TizerorFizz · 19/08/2025 08:30

You obviously have a 24 year old baby. As adults they should be able to reconcile differences but they are not mature enough to do it.

I would also say DD1 has come home so it cannot be that bad. She didn’t get a job away from home did she? It’s a shame in a way she hadn’t grasped that having been to university that she needed to move on and live away from home. This leads me to think she’s not got friends. What about friends at home?

These dc do seem to have a lovely home and then upset everyone in it. Difficult to turn them out but they need to realise that just existing with dc and arguing with each other is immature and needs to stop. So a family discussion about plans and behaviours I think.

footballfan1963 · 19/08/2025 08:26

PamIsAVolleyballChamp · 19/08/2025 08:15

Ah so dd3 says dd1 is being mean and bullying her so she must be. Do you ask dd1 how she feels and how she sees her sisters behaviour towards her?

She says she just doesn’t care any more. Which I can’t work out if she means it or if she’s trying to protect herself emotionally. They used to be very close and had shared interests of dance and our cat.

@5128gap we do try and do this but dd1 is quite aloof and gives monosyllabic answers. Which is understandable if this is down to autism and her social battery being low after work.

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TheTwitcher11 · 19/08/2025 08:23

Xxxxxohno · 19/08/2025 00:02

My sister ruled everything in our house growing up. She had to know everything about me, where I was, who I was with, she even told my Mother when I had to leave the house because my sister had plans. Unfortunately my Mother went along with it and I distanced myself so much from my Mother when I moved out. The relationship never got better as she kept going on about my sister when I was spending time with just her.

You need to set boundaries with your DD3. And you need to make it clear to DD1 you still love her. Take her out for the day just you two? Take her to her favourite place to eat. Make her feel special. And do not mention DD2 or DD3 to her when you do take her out.

Good luck.

Can I ask if your mother’s enabling of your sister has hindered her growth? Eg lack of accountability, struggles in personal relationships or at work etc? And whether your mum continues to walk on eggshells now? The reason I ask is because this seems to be the case with a lot of people I’ve met where the dynamic was similar at home (enabling parent and controlling child)

hadenoughnows · 19/08/2025 08:21

PamIsAVolleyballChamp · 19/08/2025 08:15

Ah so dd3 says dd1 is being mean and bullying her so she must be. Do you ask dd1 how she feels and how she sees her sisters behaviour towards her?

DD2 also says that older DD is difficult to live with, so maybe she's not the easiest housemate. But DD3 sounds like a nightmare and maybe DD1 has had a lifetime of bullying from her and had enough? It's hard to know without having observed the dynamics over time.

Your children are adults now though, OP. I'd be laying down the law about how things are going to be in my home if they are going to live there. I know I'm not prepared to have adult DC at home who make my life difficult.

PamIsAVolleyballChamp · 19/08/2025 08:15

footballfan1963 · 19/08/2025 08:11

No it’s not @hadenoughnows but dd3 claims SHE is the one being bullied. Last weekend Dh and I were away for a night. Dd3 said that dd1 kept turning the lights off after dd3 had put them on. Obviously I wasn’t there and I haven’t heard dd1’s side of the story but it sounds like dd1 does things to deliberately piss her sister off. Then dd3 kept sending me definitions of bullying to back up her claim that she was being bullied.

Ah so dd3 says dd1 is being mean and bullying her so she must be. Do you ask dd1 how she feels and how she sees her sisters behaviour towards her?

5128gap · 19/08/2025 08:12

I think the relationship with adult DC should be a two way street yes. I'm not one for thinking parents need to run rings around themselves trying to please and appease in the hopes of being honoured with basic manners. However, I do think its reasonable to remember that as parents we've generally got more experience at navigating interpersonal relationships and can draw on that, as well as our other extra resourses, and put some extra effort in to make it work.
I'd invite DD1 to do some things with just you, based aroundhere own interests and see if you can rebuild your connection. In smaller ways, I'd instigate conversation with her. When she came in I'd call 'Hi DD, how was your day?'. So making the first move, but not chasing.

footballfan1963 · 19/08/2025 08:11

No it’s not @hadenoughnows but dd3 claims SHE is the one being bullied. Last weekend Dh and I were away for a night. Dd3 said that dd1 kept turning the lights off after dd3 had put them on. Obviously I wasn’t there and I haven’t heard dd1’s side of the story but it sounds like dd1 does things to deliberately piss her sister off. Then dd3 kept sending me definitions of bullying to back up her claim that she was being bullied.

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PamIsAVolleyballChamp · 19/08/2025 08:10

hadenoughnows · 19/08/2025 08:06

If someone in the home refused to eat with me each day, I'd feel pretty bullied. It's not acceptable behaviour to shun someone like that.

Well yes, particularly when it was targeted only at one member of the family. Definitely bullying.

hadenoughnows · 19/08/2025 08:06

footballfan1963 · 19/08/2025 08:01

@PamIsAVolleyballChamp that is very sad indeed. But I don’t think our situation is as bad as that. Dd3 doesn’t ban dd1 from meals, she just chooses not to eat in the same room as her. She tries to control things (fuelled by her own anxiety) but I always explain to her that I have 3 dds who I love very much and I try to balance everyone’s needs. I know how difficult it is for the older two to live with dd3 and I spend a lot of time thinking about their needs and how I can minimise the impact on them. I have always spent 1-to-1 time with all of them growing up, I think that’s important. And this thread is about dd1 and my worries about her.

If someone in the home refused to eat with me each day, I'd feel pretty bullied. It's not acceptable behaviour to shun someone like that.

footballfan1963 · 19/08/2025 08:01

@PamIsAVolleyballChamp that is very sad indeed. But I don’t think our situation is as bad as that. Dd3 doesn’t ban dd1 from meals, she just chooses not to eat in the same room as her. She tries to control things (fuelled by her own anxiety) but I always explain to her that I have 3 dds who I love very much and I try to balance everyone’s needs. I know how difficult it is for the older two to live with dd3 and I spend a lot of time thinking about their needs and how I can minimise the impact on them. I have always spent 1-to-1 time with all of them growing up, I think that’s important. And this thread is about dd1 and my worries about her.

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PamIsAVolleyballChamp · 19/08/2025 07:09

footballfan1963 · 18/08/2025 23:50

I’m not sure what you mean by this?

OK apologies (slightly) but I have a friend from school who like pp is in the situation of dd1.
Everything at home revolved around dd3.
Like you, parents allowed dd3 to decide what the family could watch and when on tv, what and when they would eat... am sure on your pp dd3 was allowed to ban her sister from family meals?
What I meant was those parents like your previous threads, were so focused on ensuring the dd3 was happy and prioritised, they didn't see the neglect and impact on the rest of their children.
School friend is NC with her parents and her DC haven't met the grandparents, such was the dd3 level of control and jealousy. Very very sad.

footballfan1963 · 19/08/2025 00:21

@Xxxxxohno We keep offering to dd1 a meal out or even just tea or a walk but she says she’s busy with work. Her birthday was in May, we took her out to her favourite steak restaurant, nice gifts, cake etc and she seemed to enjoy it. It’s now August and we haven’t spent any proper time together since then.

Last year I took dd1 to Paris. We had a lovely time together. I wish we could get that connection back.

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Xxxxxohno · 19/08/2025 00:02

footballfan1963 · 18/08/2025 23:49

I realise we got a lot wrong. We allowed dd3’s autism to rule everything. I wrongly thought we were meeting her needs but the pendulum swung way too far. We are trying to address that now.

My sister ruled everything in our house growing up. She had to know everything about me, where I was, who I was with, she even told my Mother when I had to leave the house because my sister had plans. Unfortunately my Mother went along with it and I distanced myself so much from my Mother when I moved out. The relationship never got better as she kept going on about my sister when I was spending time with just her.

You need to set boundaries with your DD3. And you need to make it clear to DD1 you still love her. Take her out for the day just you two? Take her to her favourite place to eat. Make her feel special. And do not mention DD2 or DD3 to her when you do take her out.

Good luck.

footballfan1963 · 18/08/2025 23:50

PamIsAVolleyballChamp · 18/08/2025 23:44

Dh and I have tried talking to dd1, ask her if she’s ok, anything she wants to talk about but she says things are ok. Maybe I should stop trying so hard
Yeah, why wonder about the needs and wellbeing of other dc, when your no1 child hates her siblings...

I’m not sure what you mean by this?

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footballfan1963 · 18/08/2025 23:49

PamIsAVolleyballChamp · 18/08/2025 23:43

But that's shit. And poor parenting the fact that you even let dd3 believe she has the right to control/decide/must be told about dd1s plans is bonkers!
Why the favouritism?

I realise we got a lot wrong. We allowed dd3’s autism to rule everything. I wrongly thought we were meeting her needs but the pendulum swung way too far. We are trying to address that now.

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