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Marks & Spencers bra fittings and trans women - they've missed the point

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IdaGlossop · 18/08/2025 18:36

A mother complained to M&S when her daughter was approached in-store by a trans woman asking if she could be of assistance. The daughter needed a bra fitting and was upset as she could see that the member of staff was male. M&S apologised.

Today, in response to the incident, M&S have announced that bra fittings are for biological women only. The solution to the mother's complaint is to not deploy trans women staff in the lingerie department! Banning trans women from having bra fittings discriminates against trans women and doesn't solve the original problem.

YANBU = M&S have messed up with this decision
YABU = Banning trans women from bra fittings protects biological women from being offered bra fittings by trans women staff

www.thepinknews.com/2025/08/18/ms-bra-fitting-trans/

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snowwy888 · 06/02/2026 19:04

:facepalm

Ablushingcrow · 06/02/2026 09:28

SingingintheRadiator · 18/08/2025 19:30

Yes, now under the trans umbrellas, according to Stonewall, of course.

We also seem to have forgotten that crossdressing used to be considered (by law enforcement) a red flag. Men who commit sexual crimes, and serial killers, have a much higher incidence of crossdressing than other groups. But apparently, it's all fine, and no man would ever exploit trans loopholes or act out their fetish on unsuspecting women just going about their days.

Yep, thanks to the gaslighting and nonstop propaganda and the #bekind, it's not only fine, it's brave and stunning.

ThatBlackCat · 06/02/2026 04:12

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ThatBlackCat · 06/02/2026 04:08

snowwy888 · 05/02/2026 04:40

Oh yeah i'm so very sorry if with tits needs to get a bra fitted regardless of gender Whether that be a trans woman a trans man or any other person I think you're forgetting that a lot of the population have tits I need bras Not just trans women and sis women you probably haven't even taken into account what intersex person is

Oh here we go, dragging in intersex and weaponising them. Intersex is not a third sex. They are either male or female. Just like 100% of the population. Further, they have asked that you stop weaponising them in this discussion. Educate yourself.

ThatBlackCat · 06/02/2026 04:07

snowwy888 · 05/02/2026 04:28

if it was a CIS woman would it be Assault on a Child Plus she wasn't unaccompanied

No because that 'cis' (which is a banned term on this site, btw and can get your posts reported and deleted) woman is a woman.

He, was a MALE. A man.

He didn't realise she was unaccompanied until the mother moved into view from around the corner, and then he fled.

ThatBlackCat · 06/02/2026 04:05

snowwy888 · 05/02/2026 04:28

and do you hear yourself You do realise some women might be weirdos or something Does that mean that we should ban all women from getting a bra fitted and i'm you're saying your friend works in a court and see that in that court There's not very nice people in there that's like saying I went to a prison and there was bad people in there

You're obviously very young due to your vernacular and lack of capitalisation and punctuation, but males are the predator sex and commit 98% of all sexual assaults. There is a reason a woman or especially pubescent teenage girls don't want a MALE handling and measuring their breasts. This should not need explaining.

ThatBlackCat · 06/02/2026 04:03

snowwy888 · 05/02/2026 04:20

this tells me you know nothing about trans people Holy molly When you do feminising hrt you grow breasts like have you not done your own research on trans Do you even know what gender dysphoria is

That is irrelevant to the topic.

Waitwhat23 · 05/02/2026 16:34

SidewaysOtter · 05/02/2026 12:02

Ooh, a drive-by scolding - we haven't had one of these for a while!

Mate, we couldn't care less if men have got tits either from being overweight or from taking hormones or from being hypnotised by the Polanski The Nork Whisperer. They're still men - dysphoria or otherwise - and women-only spaces are not for them.

Wasn't there a trans woman who claimed that his work colleagues gave him their spare bras?

I think that's the Malaga Nights fantasy, isn't it? Being included in bra-sharing, alongside pyjama-clad pillow fights and subbing each other with sanitary products for all the times we left the house without them Hmm

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'The Nork Whisperer'! 😆

BundleBoogie · 05/02/2026 13:30

99victoria · 05/02/2026 08:33

And totally disregarding all rules of traditional grammar and spelling in the process 😁

Yes, it’s painful.

SidewaysOtter · 05/02/2026 12:02

snowwy888 · 05/02/2026 04:20

this tells me you know nothing about trans people Holy molly When you do feminising hrt you grow breasts like have you not done your own research on trans Do you even know what gender dysphoria is

Ooh, a drive-by scolding - we haven't had one of these for a while!

Mate, we couldn't care less if men have got tits either from being overweight or from taking hormones or from being hypnotised by the Polanski The Nork Whisperer. They're still men - dysphoria or otherwise - and women-only spaces are not for them.

Wasn't there a trans woman who claimed that his work colleagues gave him their spare bras?

I think that's the Malaga Nights fantasy, isn't it? Being included in bra-sharing, alongside pyjama-clad pillow fights and subbing each other with sanitary products for all the times we left the house without them Hmm

Waitingfordoggo · 05/02/2026 11:26

snowwy888 · 05/02/2026 04:20

this tells me you know nothing about trans people Holy molly When you do feminising hrt you grow breasts like have you not done your own research on trans Do you even know what gender dysphoria is

So what? Lots of fat men have tits too. None of them have the right to insist women measure them for bras.

Ukefluke · 05/02/2026 11:24

hiintrepidheroes · 18/08/2025 18:49

I have spoken and interacted with several trans women, they are living their life and it’s nothing to do with fetish.

There might be some, but most are doing nothing to hurt women. It is insulting to say it’s a fetish and incorrect.

They are hurting women if they, as biological men insert themselves into womens spaces

navystrap · 05/02/2026 11:17

@lifeturnsonadime 😂 let’s just file that under things they fantasize will happen but would never ever actually happen.

lifeturnsonadime · 05/02/2026 10:46

navystrap · 05/02/2026 09:46

I’m sure there are “specialist shops” that males who want to up and wear a bra can go to for assistance. They don’t belong in women’s spaces such as getting a bra fitting from a poor unsuspecting woman just trying to do her job. Trans women are males and need to either use an online service or a shop which offers a specific service for males like them.

If they dislike and fight against this then they are just showing typically male behaviour in not caring about actual women and only seeking their own satisfaction and treating women like props.

I've heard that they don't even need a shop.

Wasn't there a trans woman who claimed that his work colleagues gave him their spare bras?

AnSolas · 05/02/2026 09:53

BambiDextrous · 05/02/2026 09:47

Mwa ha ha.

🤷‍♀️

M&S SM staff can test how effective fluffy pillows are for protection when placed on desk keyboards or over screens?
🤕 👀

BambiDextrous · 05/02/2026 09:47

AnSolas · 05/02/2026 09:45

I cant commment on that 🫢

But I will bet the Marks and Spencer M&S SM team will be just delighted to see the question of why M&S management are allowing their female staff be subjected to sexual harrassment pop up again this morning. 💅

Mwa ha ha.

navystrap · 05/02/2026 09:46

I’m sure there are “specialist shops” that males who want to up and wear a bra can go to for assistance. They don’t belong in women’s spaces such as getting a bra fitting from a poor unsuspecting woman just trying to do her job. Trans women are males and need to either use an online service or a shop which offers a specific service for males like them.

If they dislike and fight against this then they are just showing typically male behaviour in not caring about actual women and only seeking their own satisfaction and treating women like props.

AnSolas · 05/02/2026 09:45

99victoria · 05/02/2026 08:33

And totally disregarding all rules of traditional grammar and spelling in the process 😁

I cant commment on that 🫢

But I will bet the Marks and Spencer M&S SM team will be just delighted to see the question of why M&S management are allowing their female staff be subjected to sexual harrassment pop up again this morning. 💅

BambiDextrous · 05/02/2026 09:45

Oh a scolding, how exciting!

lifeturnsonadime · 05/02/2026 09:41

It's still a NO!

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 05/02/2026 09:36

snowwy888 · 05/02/2026 04:20

this tells me you know nothing about trans people Holy molly When you do feminising hrt you grow breasts like have you not done your own research on trans Do you even know what gender dysphoria is

Ah well you see your problem here is that we HAVE done our research.

not every person claiming to be trans has gender dysphoria and even if they do as males they cannot demand access to naked female bodies as part of their coping mechanism. That doesn’t work for us. We’re saying no.

99victoria · 05/02/2026 08:33

And totally disregarding all rules of traditional grammar and spelling in the process 😁

Hoardasurass · 05/02/2026 07:59

Waitwhat23 · 05/02/2026 07:46

Ooh, I think I've filled about half the bingo card just from this morning!

Yep and resurrecting a 4 month old thread just to lecture us on our transphobia because we dont want men in our spaces or women being forced to touch some creepy blokes moobs

Waitwhat23 · 05/02/2026 07:46

Ooh, I think I've filled about half the bingo card just from this morning!

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