Page 2 | Marks & Spencers bra fittings and trans women - they've missed the point

IdaGlossop · 2025-08-18T17:36:50+00:00

A mother complained to M&S when her daughter was approached in-store by a trans woman asking if she could be of assistance. The daughter needed a bra fitting and was upset as she could see that the member of staff was male. M&S apologised. Today, in response to the incident, M&S have announced that bra fittings are for biological women only. The solution to the mother's complaint is to not deploy trans women staff in the lingerie department! Banning trans women from having bra fittings discriminates against trans women and doesn't solve the original problem. YANBU = M&S have messed up with this decision YABU = Banning trans women from bra fittings protects biological women from being offered bra fittings by trans women staff https://www.thepinknews.com/2025/08/18/ms-bra-fitting-trans/

Hoardasurass · 06/02/2026 23:18

BlackCatDiscoClub · 06/02/2026 23:15

Bras are for people who have tit's, whether they are real or fake, or grew before or after puberty. If a man with a big pair of man boots wanted a bra, he should be able to get one! Likewise the woman who has had a double mastectomy and had implants afterwards should be able to get one. If a trans woman has tits, due to hormones or implants, she needs a bra.

Well he can go to a man for his bra fitting rather than try and force a woman to participate in his fetish

Hoardasurass · 06/02/2026 23:16

snowwy888 · 06/02/2026 23:05

can i have the link I want to see if this is weighted or not

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Sure go look it up on either the MOJ or ONS websites for yourself im not your research assistant

BlackCatDiscoClub · 06/02/2026 23:15

Bras are for people who have tit's, whether they are real or fake, or grew before or after puberty. If a man with a big pair of man boots wanted a bra, he should be able to get one! Likewise the woman who has had a double mastectomy and had implants afterwards should be able to get one. If a trans woman has tits, due to hormones or implants, she needs a bra.

snowwy888 · 06/02/2026 23:05

Hoardasurass · 06/02/2026 23:00

Clearly you missed the handy graph i posted earlier so I'll post it again for you and if you look at it you'll see that the data comes from the UK ministry of justice and the office of national statistics

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can i have the link I want to see if this is weighted or not

Hoardasurass · 06/02/2026 23:00

snowwy888 · 06/02/2026 22:48

source?

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Clearly you missed the handy graph i posted earlier so I'll post it again for you and if you look at it you'll see that the data comes from the UK ministry of justice and the office of national statistics

Marks & Spencers bra fittings and trans women - they've missed the point

Waitwhat23 · 06/02/2026 22:56

I take back the barely sentient descriptor for the soup.

snowwy888 · 06/02/2026 22:48

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source?

ThatBlackCat · 06/02/2026 22:35

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ThatBlackCat · 06/02/2026 22:34

snowwy888 · 06/02/2026 19:08

right...

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Lies and misinformation from you.

ThatBlackCat · 06/02/2026 22:33

snowwy888 · 06/02/2026 19:05

Intersex refers to individuals who have physical sex characteristics, such as chromosomes, gonads, or genitals, that do not fit typical definitions of male or female. This condition can manifest at birth, during puberty, or may never be noticeable, and it is not considered a disorder or disease.

cough cough

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Yes, it is called Differences of Sexual Development. But the person is still either male OR female. Not both. And not a third sex.

Waitwhat23 · 06/02/2026 21:49

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TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · 06/02/2026 21:04

"Our bra fitting service has been developed for female customers"

Since when? M&S are awful at bra fittings.

AnSolas · 06/02/2026 20:58

snowwy888 · 06/02/2026 19:19

sorry I didn't really make it clear Let me restate it for you I mean anyone who needs a bra should be entitled to someone to help them measure them like isn't this like a really basic thing I didn't mention gender at all it's all up to consent If someone doesn't feel comfortable measuring chest or directing them how to They don't have to you're acting like people are being forced to have their chest measured which is completely false

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No dear

Nobody has an enitilement to be measured.

A male person rocking up to M&S female staff and demanding she engages in physical contact with him just because she works there has zero rights.

A M&S manager demanding she engage in physical contact with such a male is failing to take reasonables prevention measures to insure the female staff member is not subjected to sexual harrassment

snowwy888 · 06/02/2026 20:19

Hoardasurass · 06/02/2026 19:52

What are you on about

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forgot to ad a qwote my bad

TheKeatingFive · 06/02/2026 20:06

snowwy888 · 06/02/2026 19:39

hm i wasent aware that the DSD is untrusted thanks

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What are you talking about?

Hoardasurass · 06/02/2026 19:52

snowwy888 · 06/02/2026 19:39

hm i wasent aware that the DSD is untrusted thanks

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What are you on about

snowwy888 · 06/02/2026 19:39

Hoardasurass · 06/02/2026 19:23

No what you are talking about are people who have a DSD. They have repeatedly asked not to be called intersex and not to be included in the lgbtq+.
The term intersex is outdated and offensive, it went out of use around the same time as spastic, moron and mongoloid etc, so please stop using it. Oh and DSDs are nothing to do with trans and trans people are no more likely to have a DSD than the general public. Also the rate of DSDs is under 0.1% not the 1.7% claimed by stonewall et al by falsely including POS which is not a DSD.

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hm i wasent aware that the DSD is untrusted thanks

KilkennyCats · 06/02/2026 19:28

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Hoardasurass · 06/02/2026 19:27

snowwy888 · 06/02/2026 19:11

I use a text to speech because I'm dyslexic First of all Second of all how about you pull up the rates for trans women

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Here you go a nice handy graph for you

Hoardasurass · 06/02/2026 19:25

snowwy888 · 06/02/2026 19:08

right...

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You are the one spreading disinformation so perhaps you should stop making a fool of yourself for everyone to see

Hoardasurass · 06/02/2026 19:23

snowwy888 · 06/02/2026 19:05

Intersex refers to individuals who have physical sex characteristics, such as chromosomes, gonads, or genitals, that do not fit typical definitions of male or female. This condition can manifest at birth, during puberty, or may never be noticeable, and it is not considered a disorder or disease.

cough cough

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No what you are talking about are people who have a DSD. They have repeatedly asked not to be called intersex and not to be included in the lgbtq+.
The term intersex is outdated and offensive, it went out of use around the same time as spastic, moron and mongoloid etc, so please stop using it. Oh and DSDs are nothing to do with trans and trans people are no more likely to have a DSD than the general public. Also the rate of DSDs is under 0.1% not the 1.7% claimed by stonewall et al by falsely including POS which is not a DSD.

snowwy888 · 06/02/2026 19:19

Waitingfordoggo · 05/02/2026 11:26

So what? Lots of fat men have tits too. None of them have the right to insist women measure them for bras.

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sorry I didn't really make it clear Let me restate it for you I mean anyone who needs a bra should be entitled to someone to help them measure them like isn't this like a really basic thing I didn't mention gender at all it's all up to consent If someone doesn't feel comfortable measuring chest or directing them how to They don't have to you're acting like people are being forced to have their chest measured which is completely false

snowwy888 · 06/02/2026 19:11

ThatBlackCat · 06/02/2026 04:05

You're obviously very young due to your vernacular and lack of capitalisation and punctuation, but males are the predator sex and commit 98% of all sexual assaults. There is a reason a woman or especially pubescent teenage girls don't want a MALE handling and measuring their breasts. This should not need explaining.

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I use a text to speech because I'm dyslexic First of all Second of all how about you pull up the rates for trans women

snowwy888 · 06/02/2026 19:08

ThatBlackCat · 06/02/2026 04:07

No because that 'cis' (which is a banned term on this site, btw and can get your posts reported and deleted) woman is a woman.

He, was a MALE. A man.

He didn't realise she was unaccompanied until the mother moved into view from around the corner, and then he fled.

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right...

snowwy888 · 06/02/2026 19:05

ThatBlackCat · 06/02/2026 04:08

Oh here we go, dragging in intersex and weaponising them. Intersex is not a third sex. They are either male or female. Just like 100% of the population. Further, they have asked that you stop weaponising them in this discussion. Educate yourself.

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Intersex refers to individuals who have physical sex characteristics, such as chromosomes, gonads, or genitals, that do not fit typical definitions of male or female. This condition can manifest at birth, during puberty, or may never be noticeable, and it is not considered a disorder or disease.

cough cough