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To think evening class GCSE/A Level provision for adults has massively declined since 1990?

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Blakeyzbus · 18/08/2025 18:02

The Autumn of 1990 was the first year I was looking to do a part time GCSE course as I’d left school. I lived in a city and there were these huge paper supplements with the local newspaper that had loads of A level and GCSE courses you could choose from at different venues within the city. Fast forward to 2025 and I find that GCSE / A Level night school provision is thin on the ground in the same city.

I suppose I’m thinking this because it’s approaching end of August/ beginning of September.
Any thoughts?

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ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 19/08/2025 08:20

ThatCyanSheep · 18/08/2025 18:26

I’ve looked into taking some a levels for fun (mainly studying the courses without sitting the exams, because they wouldn’t benefit me now), because I didn’t get the chance to do them at a level at school and I regret it. I found it’s pretty impossible to do them for free where I live

I don’t think they were ever free unless you weee under 19. I did GCSE Maths at evening class in 1992. I had to pay for it.

Blakeyzbus · 19/08/2025 08:16

caffelattetogo · 19/08/2025 07:41

Also leisure courses are thin on the ground (and massively oversubscribed). I used to love a course each september.

What exactly do you mean by leisure course?

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Blakeyzbus · 19/08/2025 08:15

NikEik · 19/08/2025 08:11

Yes, it's a real shame.

I did a couple of evening classes (A level Computing at the local college & Conversational French via the local uni) in the late ninties and there were loads to choose from. The college where I did the computing had a real buzz to it in the evening due to how many classes were on - loads of GCSE/A level but also vocational qualifications you could do in the evening like plumbing courses etc. It is such a shame on so many levels to lose this.

Exactly ! I miss the ‘buzz’ of the local FE colleges too !

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NikEik · 19/08/2025 08:11

Yes, it's a real shame.

I did a couple of evening classes (A level Computing at the local college & Conversational French via the local uni) in the late ninties and there were loads to choose from. The college where I did the computing had a real buzz to it in the evening due to how many classes were on - loads of GCSE/A level but also vocational qualifications you could do in the evening like plumbing courses etc. It is such a shame on so many levels to lose this.

Blakeyzbus · 19/08/2025 08:09

Annoyeddd · 19/08/2025 07:48

Our local college doesn't do A levels at all (it used to and there were several one year A level courses intended for mature students but were mainly 18-19 year olds doing resits).
What happened to life long learning

I know I really miss these courses - the variety of courses used to be excellent!

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Annoyeddd · 19/08/2025 07:48

Our local college doesn't do A levels at all (it used to and there were several one year A level courses intended for mature students but were mainly 18-19 year olds doing resits).
What happened to life long learning

caffelattetogo · 19/08/2025 07:41

Also leisure courses are thin on the ground (and massively oversubscribed). I used to love a course each september.

AudiobookListener · 19/08/2025 07:41

RampantIvy · 19/08/2025 06:53

The old fashioned type of night class were very important for older people in terms of mental health and social contact.

Retired people join U3A instead and can do various classes during the day

U3A isn't the same because it's organised by private individuals. I tried to join a group and the organiser was....unwelcoming. A group my DH would enjoy is always full, there doesn't seem to be any way of new people joining.

Enko · 19/08/2025 07:39

I looked into doing this mostly because my exams are from Denmark and not known here. However I gave up as no provisions in evening. With the local authority only day time.

I have considered an online platform but I am without a computer right now and it feels hard on a phone.

AudiobookListener · 19/08/2025 07:35

BettyEagleton · 19/08/2025 05:49

I live in London and I want to learn Portuguese. The only course I can find is Brazilian Portuguese at City Lit. That’s it. No other options.

I think there has been a cultural shift - for which I blame the Tories, obvs. They have destroyed the idea of just enjoying learning as a goal in itself. Now everything has to be leading to a job.

But there is value in education for its own sake. And value in creativity (do not get me started on the decline of arts education).

I've done a couple of terms of language courses online with City Lit and they were pretty good. I thought they were expensive until I properly compared prices, and discovered they are actually quite reasonable! These days you can also just get one-to-one lessons online although thats a different experience to being in a group. It's that social aspect and meeting like-minded people which is so important.

RampantIvy · 19/08/2025 06:53

The old fashioned type of night class were very important for older people in terms of mental health and social contact.

Retired people join U3A instead and can do various classes during the day

WaneyEdge · 19/08/2025 06:37

BettyEagleton · 19/08/2025 05:49

I live in London and I want to learn Portuguese. The only course I can find is Brazilian Portuguese at City Lit. That’s it. No other options.

I think there has been a cultural shift - for which I blame the Tories, obvs. They have destroyed the idea of just enjoying learning as a goal in itself. Now everything has to be leading to a job.

But there is value in education for its own sake. And value in creativity (do not get me started on the decline of arts education).

Wasn’t the Tories, as I said in my earlier post it was around 2005/6. Labour were in power then. The Education Secretary was either Alan Johnson or Ruth Kelly.

sashh · 19/08/2025 06:09

Blakeyzbus · 18/08/2025 18:27

Agreed !! All I can see is Maths and English!!

FFS let’s have some variety, local authorities!!

They don't have the funding.

I went to uni at 32 after becoming disabled and I was unable to continue in my chosen career.

The local college offered loads of courses that I got for free because I was getting DLA.

I did some Italian, Deaf awareness, basic counselling, AS sociology. All gone now.

BettyEagleton · 19/08/2025 05:49

I live in London and I want to learn Portuguese. The only course I can find is Brazilian Portuguese at City Lit. That’s it. No other options.

I think there has been a cultural shift - for which I blame the Tories, obvs. They have destroyed the idea of just enjoying learning as a goal in itself. Now everything has to be leading to a job.

But there is value in education for its own sake. And value in creativity (do not get me started on the decline of arts education).

Flamingoknees · 19/08/2025 05:29

Boomer55 · 18/08/2025 18:18

Yes it has. I miss the night schools where you could learn just for no real reason. 🤷‍♀️

Non existent in my area. You can do online AL but it costs £1500 plus if you include exam fees (for which I'd have to travel quite a distance to sit).
There's nil "interest" type night classes. You can't learn French, cake decorating, etc anymore. The only courses are strictly job focused with industry recognised qualifications. They are very expensive, unless you are on benefits, mostly daytimes, and require fulltime or 1/2 time attendance.
The old fashioned type of night class were very important for older people in terms of mental health and social contact.

spoonbillstretford · 19/08/2025 04:36

YANBU and I think it is still needed, and a lot more FE College funding & expansion. Schools make a massive hoo haa about doing 8+ GCSEs by 16 but then if you fail at that point you never get the chance to do them again other than Maths & English at college. Either 8+ GCSEs aren't important and drop them altogether, or give people longer to study them as not everyone is ready at 15/16 for all manner of reasons.

BlueEyedBogWitch · 19/08/2025 04:25

The Lifelong Learning centre at my local university has just closed.

I think it’s really sad.

TheGreatWesternShrew · 19/08/2025 03:45

KilkennyCats · 18/08/2025 23:43

You could do the A Level…

Yes I could for an additional £1200. That’s how much it costs with practicals and exams. Not a small amount on top of another degree.

OnlyTheBravest · 19/08/2025 00:44

There used to be lots of different adult classes both daytime and evening. Due to the massive cuts in funding there are only a tiny number of courses and they are all directed at getting people back to work with the vast majority on during working hours. These course are reduced for those on benefits but full price for everyone else. Such a shame the adult courses were well attended and a fantastic way for adults of all ages to meet new people/learn new skills.

Netcurtainnelly · 19/08/2025 00:14

Agree there was lots of courses
Daytime and evening.
Only Maths and English now.

XenoBitch · 18/08/2025 23:54

KilkennyCats · 18/08/2025 23:43

You could do the A Level…

Except you probably can't do an A-level now as an adult.

DiscoBob · 18/08/2025 23:47

I did Spanish GCSE in evenings at a sixth form college. I did it with my mum when I was 24 and she was about 64. It was great. Most others were 30-40 and a few weren't native English speakers. We did have to pay though.
I know they cut funding for ESOL as well as other subjects since then. Shame really.

KilkennyCats · 18/08/2025 23:43

TheGreatWesternShrew · 18/08/2025 23:20

This. I want to do a healthcare degree. I have a Masters degree in a non science subject. But, because I don’t have a biology A level I may have to do a year long access course taking my non earning years to 4 in total to get the degree. It’s silly!

You could do the A Level…

TheGreatWesternShrew · 18/08/2025 23:20

Notmaintain · 18/08/2025 18:40

I sat A Levels as an external candidate - nowhere near me did A Level short courses, and it was far quicker and cheaper than an Access Course.

Education in the UK is far too inflexible. If you're a literate adult, you shouldn't have to do a year-long, full-time course in order to prove you can do an undergraduate degree.

This. I want to do a healthcare degree. I have a Masters degree in a non science subject. But, because I don’t have a biology A level I may have to do a year long access course taking my non earning years to 4 in total to get the degree. It’s silly!

RampantIvy · 18/08/2025 22:49

Boomer55 · 18/08/2025 18:18

Yes it has. I miss the night schools where you could learn just for no real reason. 🤷‍♀️

So do I. I used to do French and German evening classes.