To let DD vape?

She kept all her empty vapes?

Good luck to the parents saying not in my house.

Are they stuck to their hip, do they accompany them to the toilet.

Get real.

My daughter vapes op, I gathered up her vapes and put a value to them and said you could have gone on holiday with your friends after exams if you hadn't smoked them.

You’re right. There is no 100% way to ensure they don’t vape but the OP says she’s given up. So she’s right now 100% doing nothing.

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well done them. Glorious.

Well I can't imagine what additional suggestions you hoped MN could make.

I personally don't think there's any 100% infallible steps you can take to stop your DD vaping, no matter what others have insisted here.

Here is the NCSCT guidance for stop smoking services. They offer information and brief advice, but not multi-session behavioural support:

https://www.ncsct.co.uk/publications/Support_stop_vaping

It's sensible stuff:

When supporting clients who want to stop vaping, our priority should always be to ensure that clients who stop vaping do not return to smoking cigarettes. NICE recommends that people should use vapes for as long as they help prevent them going back to smoking.7 As such, it is important to assess why clients want to stop vaping and their risk of relapse, and to plan and prepare appropriately to stop vaping either gradually or in one step.

Like all public services, Stop Smoking are strapped for cash. It's understandable that they would focus their resources on people who are still smoking and thus actually slowly killing themselves.

If OP's DD wants to quit vaping it would be worth OP going through this advice with her. If she doesn't then there really is no point.

I guess it’s different as we’re adults but my brother picked up vaping a few months ago, he claimed he just used the flavour to “get a break” at work.

My parents turned round to him and said if he had a level of disposable income to spend on vapes, he could afford to rent and he had a week to give up or find a place. Funnily enough, the vaping stopped!

Let’s normalise parenting our kids. As a Gen Xer it was normal for our parents to be hands off. Most of the stuff that happened in my childhood would be subject to a CPS investigation now. Latch key kid, whole days outside of the home without supervision, access to alcohol young. my kids think all the memes about our generation are hilarious, I don’t want the same for them though. They understand my thoughts on having sex too young, vaping and cigarettes, alcohol. They understand how to use the internet safely, county lines, grooming. We’ve had to (age appropriately) talk about all of it. They are supervised. Listened to. Have hobbies that we attend. We are involved, we listen. Their brains won’t fully develop until they are 25. Like hell would I roll over on something as detrimental as vaping at 16. Don’t take on the war unless you are prepared to win. This one I would take on as I think it’s insidious.

you should be speaking to the GP, school and local council support

I'm genuinely interested in how this would be handled by those agencies. I find it hard to believe that they would actually offer anything if a parent approached them about their DC vaping.

What do you know about it that I haven't heard of?

I'm not defending the daughter's position, I'm saying pick your battles.

I posted some useful links here:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5394270-to-let-dd-vape?page=4&reply=146509607

But did you eventually cave in and go back to paying for stuff?

Do you pay for any other stuff for her? Clothes? Phone?

If so, stop. Tell her she can prioritise what she spends her money on.

She didn't say they started by vaping (not in that post anyway). She was responding to a pp stating that it's rare to see younger people smoking cigarettes.

I also don't blame my parents. That would be immature.

I don’t understand why you are defending the daughters position here. You’ve admittedly damaged your health. I assume if you could time travel back you would never have started spending your dinner money on cigarettes? Give the OP some useful advice based on your life experience.

No, my teeth and gums are fucked from decades of smoking but at least have now stopped getting worse.

My parents weren't inactive, they tried very hard to get me to stop smoking. I just learnt to hide it better.

"she will blame you"

Hi Nostradamus, I never blamed my parents for my decades long smoking addiction. They resigned themselves to it in the 80s.

When I was 16 dinosaurs walked the earth - doesn't have a bearing on the current situation.

You’ve really proved the point that inactivity by parents in this area leads to a lifelong nicotine addiction which is detrimental to health. Are your teeth and gums okay? Honestly just focusing on oral health would be enough for my kids to not take it up. There’s no way they’d wreck their teeth for that shit.

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Definitely don't let her do this in the house or garden. And if she's had so much spare money from her part-time work then start charging her for things like wifi and bills and food!!!

That's a "tritology" 😂

When i was 16 smoking was legal

I switched to vaping when I was about 45. I still vape, I'm still addicted, but my health has improved hugely and I am at least relapse-proof as far as smoking is concerned.

I am absolutely not recommending vaping for young people or for anyone who has never smoked. Addiction is shit.

One thing OP should perhaps bear in mind is that even after the massive explosion in teen vaping caused by disposables, only 2% of young people who vape regularly have never smoked. There is a very high chance that OP's DD is vaping for the same reason that adults do - she got addicted to smoking and switched to vapes because they are much, much safer than smoking.

My 17 year old vapes and wont stop, although I suspect he has cut down. He knows that I will go ballistic if he does it in the house and I can smell if he does, he also knows that I wont allow it in the garden either. He knows that I mean it when I say I will cut off everything I do for him so he respects that.
I also dont have a go at him and leave him to it, he vapes with his mates but it seems to very much just be a social thing now rather than all the time like it was before