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Absolutely FUMING with ex MIL

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ellie09 · 18/08/2025 15:29

Hi all

I have an 8 year old ASD DS and split up with their dad when DS was 2.

For a bit of backstory - my ex MIL had always been an absolute nightmare, constantly going over boundaries and being horribly verbally abusive to me in the past. For the sake of DS, over the last couple of years, we have became "civil" to each other when we see one another.

Since my ex husband moved out around 6 months ago from ex MIL house, she has been obsessed with having DS at her house. Which I didn't mind until the lack of routine between 3 houses (mine, his dads and granny's) was having a negative effect on his behaviour.

Recently, getting fed up of DS arriving back to me in horrible form and displaying bad behaviour (he needs routine as part of his ASD), I told his granny that stays at her house will not be as frequent, with school starting soon and that moving forward, DS wont be staying there on a school night, but he can stay at her house for one night at the weekend, if she would like.

Ex MIL seems to have taken this badly and using now anything she can to see DS.

His dad collected him today after work for a few hours before dropping him back for dinner. He said his mum had PHONED OUR GP AND MADE AN APPOINTMENT FOR MY DS WITHOUT MY KNOWLEDGE.

Apparently, its for his "allergies" which he already takes Benardyl for which WORKS. And for the fact he cant do his poos properly (he refuses to go unless its in his granny's toilet, some weird OCD thing) which is currently acknowledged by his ASD support team and we are working through coping strategies etc with him. I have already been told there is nothing GP can do for this as the psychological mindset is part of his ASD care team.

What steps do I take now?

Call the GP surgery and tell them only a parent can make an appointment moving forward?

Do I remove all access to toxic ex MIL until she learns some boundaries? (Hard to do when DS dad will just ignore that anyway)

I am LIVID.

OP posts:
tipsyraven · 18/08/2025 19:43

LittleOwl153 · 18/08/2025 19:35

Ring the surgery, ex0lain that your child has an appointment booked. Find out the date and time and turn up too. They cannot refuse you entry with you child.

Also find out from the surgery how they do the electronic system and set it up so that it messages YOU when an appointment is booked for your child.

The child doesn’t need an appointment as his issues are being treated so OP should cancel it.

LittleOwl153 · 18/08/2025 19:35

ellie09 · 18/08/2025 15:48

Yes, I thought it was bizarre also without contacting parents to approve it.

My ex husband just goes along with it also with his mum (despite them always falling out etc). He picked up DS and casually mentioned it as he was walking out the gate with him.

Apparently, he is going with ex MIL and also ex husband's long term girlfriend is attending as well?

Theres nothing bloody "wrong" with the child. You would think it was a serious life threatening appointment.

I am just bewildered at this point.

I have made it clear DS dad is to bring him home straight after for dinner.

Ring the surgery, ex0lain that your child has an appointment booked. Find out the date and time and turn up too. They cannot refuse you entry with you child.

Also find out from the surgery how they do the electronic system and set it up so that it messages YOU when an appointment is booked for your child.

VeryStressedMum · 18/08/2025 19:31

Enrichetta · 18/08/2025 16:42

Get a new toilet, @ellie09 - it’ll be worth it.

I agree with this I would get a new toilet so he can feel comfortable in his own house and work on him being able to go elsewhere

m00rfarm · 18/08/2025 19:27

ellie09 · 18/08/2025 15:55

His granny had a very distinct accent as she is Brazilian.

I very much have a local accent to my area.

Therein lies the problem. Brazil has a completely different mindset and good luck with dealing with it. Break off all communication with her.

Studyunder · 18/08/2025 19:23

ComfortFoodCafe · 18/08/2025 15:33

I would stop stays all together, mil can see your son in your exs time.

This 100% Also contact the medical centre and state say this has happened without your permission. They are not allowed to see a child without their parent present. However, given her actions here I would raise your concerns and ask this to be flagged as a potential safeguarding concern

FarmGirl78 · 18/08/2025 19:15

RitaRetro · 18/08/2025 15:54

Thing is they never ask who’s calling or who’s making the appointment when you phone the GP, don’t don’t really see a way around that as how will they know if it’s a parent or not making the booking? It could be anyone. Reception won’t have a clue. They never ask who’s calling when I book appointments for mine.

It's very easy for surgeries, schools etc to put a flag on the electronic file, so each time the records are opened the computer will display a warning screen that has to be acknowledged before you can move on. The staff would be notified to ask for a codeword before booking an appointment. OP could say for when anyone calls, or just if a female calls.

CookiesAreForSharing · 18/08/2025 19:02

New toilet in your home, and if possible if you have more than one, one just for his exclusive use. Or those paper toilet seat covers for each time, which has a bonus point that they are portable for use outside your home? I'm sure you've tried these ideas,; the toilet seat covers worked for us, hence the suggestion!

PurpleH · 18/08/2025 19:01

As others have said - get yourself a new toilet! Worth every penny at this stage surely?!

TheLemonLemur · 18/08/2025 19:01

She has massively overstepped but I don't know why you would have taken so many steps to facilitate contact with her when you have so many issues with her behaviour. You can't have it both ways unfortunately you will need to lose the babysitting on the weekend if you want to set boundaries. It sounds almost like there's been an odd 3 parent set up I don't know many grandparents who would think it was ok to book doctors appointments

HAB75 · 18/08/2025 18:49

Rosscameasdoody · 18/08/2025 18:00

Why would you say something like this when OP has already said she has custody 70% of the time and after MiL was abusive the child wasn’t allowed to stay overnight for a year ? This isn’t about ‘free nights’ it’s clear OP is doing her best for her child.

Look at the user name and just ignore it. At least they are nice enough to flag what they are doing.

Muffinmam · 18/08/2025 18:26

You contact your child’s doctor and tell them that only you or the child’s father can make medical appointments.

You see a lawyer and get Court orders drawn up so that both you and your ex have equal parenting time or you have primary custody.

You attend mediation with your ex so that he understands what he is doing is harmful.

Your son has ASD and needs structure and routine. The toilet issue is something that demonstrates this arrangement is harmful to your son. This would be too much for a normal kid to handle and it never should have been allowed to occur.

You should give your child an osmotic laxative drink so that he will poop in your toilet. He’s holding it in.

whynotwhatknot · 18/08/2025 18:24

youve swung from one way right to the other-its not up to her to make appts

buy a new toilet do anything to stop this carrying on-shes trying to take over

verycloakanddaggers · 18/08/2025 18:20

ellie09 · 18/08/2025 15:53

Yes, I think its all OK as long as DS dad approves, and its on his visitation time, and there is no risk to the child.

About 3 years ago now, I filed a non molestation order for me against ex MIL as police had to be called when she got verbally abusive outside her house and blocked me out of my own car, refusing to let me drive off.

After that, DS wasn't allowed to stay overnight in her house for 1 year.

As time has moved on, I have tried my best to build a civil relationship with ex MIL whilst my ex husband was still living there (which has been extremely challenging, to say the least).

You need to establish some robust boundaries.

You are entitled to stop trying to be civil as she can't behave appropriately. Advise the GP and school etc that she is not authorised to discuss your DS.

Imaybeoldbutstillrandy · 18/08/2025 18:17

GAJLY · 18/08/2025 18:15

Agreed!

Not only that, he could help to choose it.

GAJLY · 18/08/2025 18:15

Enrichetta · 18/08/2025 16:42

Get a new toilet, @ellie09 - it’ll be worth it.

Agreed!

Imaybeoldbutstillrandy · 18/08/2025 18:14

ellie09 · 18/08/2025 16:33

I am following what ASD team have advised I do with DS. Not to disrupt any preplanned routines to allow him to poo in his granny's toilet, but we need to make adjustments at home etc to try and encourage movements in mine and his DF house too.

He only likes his granny's toilet because she got a new one recently.

He is very germphobic, as is his granny, and I am starting to think it isn't the beat influence on him now.

Maybe it would help if he cleaned the toilet at your house?

I would suggest that you give it a quick once-over first though so he can see that it's not visibly dirty in order to avoid feeding his OCD. He could have his own marigolds to use, clean with anti-bac wipes & then clean the bowl etc to his satisfaction.

Or, if have 2 toilets in your house, keep one just for his use with a sign on the door saying something along the lines of 'Toilet for the exclusive use of <name>' You could point out that, unlike at Granny's house, he has his own exclusive toilet.

Apparently Kenneth Williams never allowed visitors to use his lavatory as he had an OCD about it.

MikeRafone · 18/08/2025 18:14

Hankunamatata · 18/08/2025 17:46

Urgh its a tough one

First get onto GP and make sure that there's a note on file that only mum or dad can make appointments and cancel the one she set up.

If you think its beneficial for dc to stay with granny one night a week Id go with Friday or saturday.

As someone who had a bit of a toxic granny - she was amazing to me but nasty to my mum (didnt realise this until got older around 14) if you think dc is ok then I would continue to let him stay overnight once a week with the proviso that she does anything like this again the visits stop

TBH

you could just cancel the appointment - tell ex you can't make that dy and have cancelled the appointment.

Not a lot anyone can do is there?

Rosscameasdoody · 18/08/2025 18:00

PlayingDevilsAdvocateisinteresting · 18/08/2025 17:41

But then the poor OP won't have free overnight babysitting on the Friday or Saturday night!

Why would you say something like this when OP has already said she has custody 70% of the time and after MiL was abusive the child wasn’t allowed to stay overnight for a year ? This isn’t about ‘free nights’ it’s clear OP is doing her best for her child.

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 18/08/2025 17:54

TheAutumnCrow · 18/08/2025 15:43

This is what I’d do. Immediately.

You stop her in her tracks now, and be very firm also with your GP Surgery. It’s bizarre they allowed a grandparent to make an appointment in the first place tbh.

and do the same with the school.

citygirl77 · 18/08/2025 17:49

Mewling · 18/08/2025 15:49

All of this and perhaps contact his school also, so that she doesn’t get any sort of foot in the door there. Mad sod, whatever was she thinking?

At school only parents/ legal guardians can state who is contacted by the school.
The school will not contact anyone who is not on that list. If a grandparent phoned up to discuss anything, they would be directed to the parents.
No one can collect a child if they are not on the contact list. I am very surprised a GP practice does not also have strict rules in place.

Hankunamatata · 18/08/2025 17:46

Urgh its a tough one

First get onto GP and make sure that there's a note on file that only mum or dad can make appointments and cancel the one she set up.

If you think its beneficial for dc to stay with granny one night a week Id go with Friday or saturday.

As someone who had a bit of a toxic granny - she was amazing to me but nasty to my mum (didnt realise this until got older around 14) if you think dc is ok then I would continue to let him stay overnight once a week with the proviso that she does anything like this again the visits stop

PlayingDevilsAdvocateisinteresting · 18/08/2025 17:41

outerspacepotato · 18/08/2025 15:38

Are you facilitating her having custodial time? If so, stop that. She can see your child on his dad's custodial time only. That's the future, period, not her taking your son on your time. You've enabled her overreaching and thinking she's a third parent. A 3 way custody split, which it sounds like you've basically had since ex left, is not in his best interests.

Password protect your son's medical files. You'll have to speak with the office and explain a non custodial person is trying to make appointments and get information.

But then the poor OP won't have free overnight babysitting on the Friday or Saturday night!

Robin67 · 18/08/2025 17:40

Yes, do both of those things.

MikeRafone · 18/08/2025 17:34

so have I got this correct

your ex is going to the doctors appointment that your ex MIL has made behind your back for your child.

This appointment is to discuss his allergies and his bowel habits?

Then your ex will be at the appointment and will afterwards tell you what was said?

Do you have the NHS app and have access to the written notes for your dc appointments? If so you'll be able to log on and see the notes from the appointment.

If you don't have the app do get it for yourself and dc, its really handy for all sorts of reason.

Do you think the MIL has a bee in her bonnet about this stuff and the doctor might explain to her whats happening and what should happen? Might it be better coming from the doctor about the bowel habits and that he doesn't have allergies?

caramac04 · 18/08/2025 17:28

Re GP appt. Ex MiL definitely overstepped the mark and I would also be fuming.
However, I have occasionally made GP appointments for my dgc but ONLY at their dm’s request or agreement if something cropped up whilst I was grannying.

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