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To not want to give DC my mums name?

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MiddleNameDilema · 18/08/2025 14:30

Have NC'd for this. If anyone knows me they could probably work it out but at this point I just need some guidance and can't ask anyone IRL!

I'm currently heavily pregnant with my first child, a girl.

I am one of 5 siblings. Of these, my mum has, altogether, no less than 7 granddaughters, my one being the 8th. None of my siblings have given any of their daughters my mums name as a middle name, and all have middle names.

The most recent granddaughter from my DSis was given two middle names - One of my sisters best friend and another of her husbands aunt who has passed away.

My mum made it very clear to me she was hurt by this and expressed shock and anger at the best friend name in particular. I think she said something to my Dsis or at least, knowing my mother, made a crestfallen face when she told her what the names were, as my Dsis said to me if she had another girl it would have to have Mum as a middle name. She has just given birth to her 2nd, but it was a boy.

So basically it has fallen to me. I'll be the last one and we are only having one.

I had kind of always assumed I would give any daughter I have my Dmums name as a middle name.

However, what I wasn't banking on was my best friend dying at 35 last year. It was the closest friendship I've ever had, I was there with her family when she died and I did a eulogy at her funeral. I miss her everyday and there is no question my daughter is having the strongest and most inspiring person I've ever known within her in some way.

My initial feelings was to have two middle names, my late friend and my DMum. But the more I've thought about it I just don't want it. I feel it waters down the impact of my friends name, they don't gel together as names, the first name we have picked out is already quite long, and to be honest I'm in a stage of low contact with my mother right now.

My childhood was chaotic and, whilst I know she loves me, my DMum can and recently has done some very hurtful, petty and borderline toxic behaviours to me.

I love her dearly but I feel stuck that I am now expected to give my DD her name, when there have been 7 other opportunities to do so before me. Had my friend not died I would be more open but as I said the relationship has been crumbling for some years now. I sort of resent that it's come down to me.

I am certain she is expecting it and will be hurt if I don't.

To my AIBU - AIBU to not give me only child my mothers name as a middle name in these circumstances?
And if not, how do I go about telling her, if at all? My instinct says to give her a heads up, explaining about my friend and that we don't want two middle names, so she has time to come to terms with it before DD is born. Or just leave it as all my other siblings have done?

Help!

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Allswellthatendswelll · 18/08/2025 16:08

So sorry about your friend. I think it's a lovely idea to use her name.

Definitely present it as a fait acompli. We made this mistake with DD as she had my grandmother's and DH's grandmother's names as middle names. MIL was a bit aggrieved we didn't use her mothers name but a baby can only have one or two middle names (unless you are minor royalty) and we liked these ones the best. I think if we'd just have said these are her names she'd never have commented on it.

I'd never use my Mum's name or MILs as they are very 50s/60s and out of fashion! I think in some cultures you only use names to honour the dead anyway. Most importantly its your baby!

outerspacepotato · 18/08/2025 16:07

"No she didn't but they weren't close at all."

So she didn't name any kids after her mom but expects you to.

That's hilarious. Once your child is out and named, just laugh at her if she says anything about that and remind her of her own actions.

You might want to disentangle from that enmeshment and you have the perfect opportunity now. You're having a baby and you're busy. Space out the calls and visit more and more. If anyone says anything, you are really busy adjusting to being a new mom.

Cranberry20181 · 18/08/2025 16:02

Another vote for not mentioning it beforehand. When your baby arrives, introduce her and move onto another subject and don't even engage with any facial expressions or comments she makes. It will honestly just feed into her victim mentality "This is Alice May Jones! We're so happy shes finally here but so tired! Thank you for the lovely gift/card/flowers. How was your trip here?". Style it out as best you can but I wouldn't give it any space in your brain whatsoever.

MiddleNameDilema · 18/08/2025 15:57

noworklifebalance · 18/08/2025 15:53

In that case I take it back and revert to my original post

Thank you.

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noworklifebalance · 18/08/2025 15:57

MiddleNameDilema · 18/08/2025 15:55

Thank you.

You've reminded me that when I cried last year (first time I ever had in front of her about it) because I spoke about my friend and how amazing the macmillan nurses had been, she went completely cold and asked me to stop because I was 'upsetting her'.

I haven't talked about her since.

Find strength in this memory to stick to your guns and as a reminder as to why you would not want your daughter to have her name.

MiddleNameDilema · 18/08/2025 15:55

Clarinet1 · 18/08/2025 15:49

If your DM were a caring mother she would understand how much your late friend meant to you and why you want to DD to have her name. As she doesn’t seem to be, I suggest you ignore her and go for what you want! I second the idea of a post-birth message just giving the names with a photo.
All the best for the delivery and enjoy your wonderful baby!

Thank you.

You've reminded me that when I cried last year (first time I ever had in front of her about it) because I spoke about my friend and how amazing the macmillan nurses had been, she went completely cold and asked me to stop because I was 'upsetting her'.

I haven't talked about her since.

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noworklifebalance · 18/08/2025 15:53

MiddleNameDilema · 18/08/2025 15:52

Oh and 4 girls have mums surname as they are my brothers.

In that case I take it back and revert to my original post

MiddleNameDilema · 18/08/2025 15:52

Oh and 4 girls have mums surname as they are my brothers.

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MiddleNameDilema · 18/08/2025 15:51

noworklifebalance · 18/08/2025 15:49

just finds it very very sad that not one has, when they have their partners family etc

I can sort of understand this.
It seems like the male half of each family has been included in the name (I presume by the child having the same surname as the father) but there is nothing from the mother’s side.

So perhaps it’s not that she wants a GC named after her but some representation of her/your side of the family, if the child will be having the surname from sons-in-law?

I would probably feel a similar way if I had daughters and all the GC had names from their fathers - more for feminist reasons rather than about me/my family.

Edited

That would make sense except for the fact one sister kept her (mums) surname for the kids, and another chose her own friends name.

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Clarinet1 · 18/08/2025 15:49

If your DM were a caring mother she would understand how much your late friend meant to you and why you want to DD to have her name. As she doesn’t seem to be, I suggest you ignore her and go for what you want! I second the idea of a post-birth message just giving the names with a photo.
All the best for the delivery and enjoy your wonderful baby!

noworklifebalance · 18/08/2025 15:49

MiddleNameDilema · 18/08/2025 15:35

Thank you.

I'm not sure she assumes to be fair, just finds it very very sad that not one has, when they have their partners family etc. I wonder if my siblings were honest if a part of that is for the same reasons as me - That actually we all have a complex relationship with her.

I'm still in two minds about whether to tell her before or after. I can see pros and cons to both.

just finds it very very sad that not one has, when they have their partners family etc

I can sort of understand this.
It seems like the male half of each family has been included in the name (I presume by the child having the same surname as the father) but there is nothing from the mother’s side.

So perhaps it’s not that she wants a GC named after her but some representation of her/your side of the family, if the child will be having the surname from sons-in-law?

I would probably feel a similar way if I had daughters and all the GC had names from their fathers - more for feminist reasons rather than about me/my family.

MiddleNameDilema · 18/08/2025 15:35

noworklifebalance · 18/08/2025 15:23

I don’t know why your mum assumes that at least one of her grandchildren should have her surname.
Just name your DC whatever you and your DP agree upon.
Your sisters managed to get past the crestfallen look and so will you. If your mum makes a comment either ignore it or cut it dead by saying “don’t be silly, why would you expect that? I don’t expect DD to name any of her children after me”.

Thank you.

I'm not sure she assumes to be fair, just finds it very very sad that not one has, when they have their partners family etc. I wonder if my siblings were honest if a part of that is for the same reasons as me - That actually we all have a complex relationship with her.

I'm still in two minds about whether to tell her before or after. I can see pros and cons to both.

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MiddleNameDilema · 18/08/2025 15:32

luckylavender · 18/08/2025 15:27

Personally I don’t like children being burdened with other people’s names

Neither did I until my best friend died. It's an honour, not a burden.

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luckylavender · 18/08/2025 15:27

Personally I don’t like children being burdened with other people’s names

noworklifebalance · 18/08/2025 15:23

I don’t know why your mum assumes that at least one of her grandchildren should have her surname.
Just name your DC whatever you and your DP agree upon.
Your sisters managed to get past the crestfallen look and so will you. If your mum makes a comment either ignore it or cut it dead by saying “don’t be silly, why would you expect that? I don’t expect DD to name any of her children after me”.

MiddleNameDilema · 18/08/2025 15:13

SparklyGlitterballs · 18/08/2025 15:02

I too would state (after the birth) that you decided as a couple not to use family names. The reason being you wanted DDs first name to be unique to her, and for the middle name, with there being two grandmas, you felt it would be unfair to honour one and not the other (and you had a strict preference for only one middle name). Acknowledge any disappointment she shows, but remind her the name was a decision for you and your DH alone, and you will not be made to feel guilty for your choices.

Out of interest, did she give her DMs name for you or any of your siblings?

No she didn't but they weren't close at all.
But then to be honest, at the moment in particular, neither are we.

My other siblings have got it right and have a more distant but friendly relationship with her. I feel much more enmeshed.
She is mid 70's so if they knew I was low contact and feeling this way I've no doubt 'We don't know how long she has left' would come out.
But thinning about it, that works both ways doesn't it?
She could also use this time (albeit could realistically be 20 years!) to reflect and adapt her behaviour and how much she hurts me. Life is short to retract from your mother, but it's also too short to spend worrying what she'll kick off to next and wait for an apology that will never come.

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outerspacepotato · 18/08/2025 15:09

If you consider caving to someone's unreasonable wishes like naming someone else's kid because they make a hurt face, research fear, obligation, and guilt, aka FOG.

She got to name her kids. It doesn't matter if she named one after her mom. You name yours.

pizzaHeart · 18/08/2025 15:08

SparklyGlitterballs · 18/08/2025 15:02

I too would state (after the birth) that you decided as a couple not to use family names. The reason being you wanted DDs first name to be unique to her, and for the middle name, with there being two grandmas, you felt it would be unfair to honour one and not the other (and you had a strict preference for only one middle name). Acknowledge any disappointment she shows, but remind her the name was a decision for you and your DH alone, and you will not be made to feel guilty for your choices.

Out of interest, did she give her DMs name for you or any of your siblings?

This ^

Thisismyalterego · 18/08/2025 15:04

Your mum sounds a bit like mine, needing to be treated with kid gloves for fear of upsetting her, having expectations about things that, frankly, are not her decision. If I had had twelve days, none of them would have been given her name. As it happens, I had boys so then she started banging on about using my step dads name.
Name your child the names you want. Your mum will have to live with your decision.

SparklyGlitterballs · 18/08/2025 15:02

I too would state (after the birth) that you decided as a couple not to use family names. The reason being you wanted DDs first name to be unique to her, and for the middle name, with there being two grandmas, you felt it would be unfair to honour one and not the other (and you had a strict preference for only one middle name). Acknowledge any disappointment she shows, but remind her the name was a decision for you and your DH alone, and you will not be made to feel guilty for your choices.

Out of interest, did she give her DMs name for you or any of your siblings?

martinisforeveryone · 18/08/2025 15:02

@MiddleNameDilema you know her best.

I was just thinking save yourself any drama and upset while you're pregnant and let your little girl take all the attention after the birth.

Using other people's names for babies isn't a thing in our family, I don't even have a middle name, so I suppose it's easier for me to brush off reactions. My own DC said no family names and we all respected that as their choice.

Bloatstoat · 18/08/2025 15:01

She sounds a lot like my late MIL, in which case my best advice is no what YOU and the baby's father want with the name, as nothing you do will ever be enough anyway - if you give the baby your mother's name as a middle name, she will be offended it's not the first name; if you give the baby her name as a first name, she will barely acknowledge it as she is so busy being offended by the fact only one of her granddaughters is named after her. If it's not names, it will be something else. It sounds like there are good reasons you are low contact, as PP have suggested just announce the names when the baby is here, and when she kicks off, just remind yourself if it wasn't this, it would be something else.

I'm sorry for the loss of your friend Flowers Giving the baby her name as a middle name is a lovely tribute.

(Edited for typos)

cranberryshortcake · 18/08/2025 14:59

You don’t have to give your daughter any name other than what you want to give her.

Your relationship with your mum is probably a bit toxic if you feel expected to do so.

You should give your daughter the name you want and not feel the least bit of guilt whatsoever.

Ellie1015 · 18/08/2025 14:59

I was delighted to give my dd my mums name as a middle name. However it was never something my mum hinted at and she was surprised. I would not have done it if she were complaining about my sisters name choices or pressuring me.

You have an even better reason in that you want to use friends name so absolutely do that. All your other siblings have not named after your mum, she will get over it when you dont either.

MiddleNameDilema · 18/08/2025 14:56

martinisforeveryone · 18/08/2025 14:54

Don't discuss names with anyone, wait until your daughter's here and when people ask her name just say her first name.

To be honest the only time anyone's interested in middle names is when the baby arrives and there's no need to show anyone her birth certificate either.

Oh yes I know, middle names are so rarely even mentioned after the first few weeks of a baby being born.
But, knowing my mum as I do, there will be comments unless I nip it now.

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