To think Shein has upped it’s game

Mumsnet - where they scream blue murder about women's rights if there's a unisex bathroom, but remain unconcerned when women in other countries are enslaved to make poor quality clothes for hollibobs.

As others have commented, the environmental and human cost of operating models like Shein are dreadful. Even if their quality was incredible (which I wager it isn’t) I wouldn’t buy from them.

God forbid not everyone thinks a company with wildly unethical working practices, producing clothes which pollute the environment and are quite frankly, dangerous to wear, is funny.

Your opinion doesn’t matter much, to me.

It would not take much effort for them

And you are confirming mine on the majority of MN posters. Snobby, judgmental cows.

The average shien customer spends 100 US dollars a month on the site and earns over 65,000 USD a year. Whilst for some it may genuinely, genuinely be their only source of cheap clothes (and even if you take the ethical issues out of it, a white t-shirt at shein seems to be the same price as a white t-shirt from Sainsbury’s but at least the Sainsbury’s one won’t potentially contain dangerous chemicals) that is definitely not the average customer.

I won't lost any sleep over your lack of respect for me. Neither will I cry myself to sleep tonight. I will shed no tears into my Temu blanket.

Much better than Select!!

That’s not how having an opinion works, I’m afraid. You’re simply confirming my pre-existing opinion on the types of people who shop at Shein, with aplomb!

Have a lovely day.

No worries!

I often entirely fail to see the OP’s name!

Good for you, getting poorly made shit churned out in factories that use child and slave labour, and poison the environment.

Whoops! That went right over my head!

No, look at OP’s name.

Was that a response to me? Not sure if anyone else has mentioned Ikea! I was responding to the criticism that you can’t be critical of shein/you’re a hypocrite if you also have an iPhone etc. I definitely haven’t said shein is good - the complete opposite in fact.

I was pointing out that basically everything we buy/every company has/has had negative aspects (be it environmentally, human rights etc). We are always going to have to buy food, clothing, furniture and other necessities (and arguably phones are a necessity in the modern world).

Just because you can’t be 100% perfect doesn’t mean that you should give up on trying to be good/pick the more ethical choice where possible. Yes I have a smartphone and I know that its production will have resulted in human and environmental suffering, but that doesn’t mean I’m going to compound that by buying from shein.

SHEIN is good but IKEA sucks? Seems an odd position.

Plenty of people really don't give a flying fuck. They just "need" their trendy clothes...

@MaloryJones
What's with the lol? Is it amusing to you that ultra cheap clothes come at the expense of slave labour? Or is it that you couldn't give a flying fuck about them?

For those who might like to read about the issues.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdrylgvr77jo

https://www.antislavery.org/latest/shein-fast-fashion-problem/

Lol

Same old same old

OP do what you like, but wouldn't post your buys on here with the bleeding hearts around

Well, considering there are an awful lot of people who will claim cheap clothes fall apart just by looking at them, I actually think it is quite good! There are clothes from a lot of places that wouldn't withstand the amount or wear/washing that the every day t-shirts I have do.

I have zero respect for anyone that uses either Shein or Temu because they have zero respect for the humans involved suffering when buying their utter crap.

I wear Shein sometimes. It's cheap (as everyone comments on). I'm not that fashionable and probably a lot older than their main target audience. Their stuff can be variable and you need to check the actual sizes as they can vary.

Crikey you dont have to get on a laundry high horse with me. Im very careful about how I shape my clothes and how they're washed

I dont own any t shirts, they dont suit me, but from knowledge of what I see and what Ive read and from discussions with people about this and that, I know that t shirts as an item are quite notorious.

You’re right - I did type it on an iPhone - unfortunately a phone is a necessity in the modern world. Plus whilst obviously not perfect at least Apple has an anti-slavery policy (and I know it will have passed safety standards - no formaldehyde for one), and comes up with its own product design rather than ripping off small designers. No Land Rover though - sold my car ages ago and manage by walking or public transport.

Fast fashion is very rarely a necessity, particularly not in the way many people use shein - especially in the era of online charity shops, Vinted, depop etc, it’s never been easier to find clothes in a more sustainable/cheaper way.

I don’t really get the iPhone argument though. Yes, it probably does make me a hypocrite, but it’s astonishingly difficult to buy entirely ethically across the spectrum (ikea used to use Romanian political prisoners for labour, the fashion industry in general accounts for up to 10% of the world’s carbon footprint, agave harvesting is causing certain types of bats to become endangered, avocados causing deforestation etc etc). That doesn’t mean just throwing in the towel and opting for the literal worst option.