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To think DH should have told me he was changing his mind?

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Edddie · 17/08/2025 13:01

I am living with an eating disorder that is largely anxiety driven. A big problem for me is eating in front of other people, and feeling judged when I eat or for what I eat.

I am now at a point where I can eat socially. If I am out for a sit-down meal with other people having a meal then that’s ok - but I wouldn’t order a starter/dessert when others weren’t. I wouldn’t pick up canapés that are circulating, I wouldn’t grab food from a buffet… I don’t eat in front of people if others aren’t eating. I’ll have small portions, “healthy” foods and small bites to avoid being judged. DH is very aware of these things.

Today, we’re at a touristy place. It’s me, DH, two DCs and DH’s friend. We passed somewhere selling cream tea and DH stopped and said he wanted one. So we went in and got a table. DH confirmed I would have one and I said yes. DH and his friend went to order at the counter. Then, it arrived and both DH and his friend has changed their minds and I was the only one having cream tea.

This immediately (rationally or irrationally) makes me feel like the fat, gluttonous, awful person. But I also feel extremely anxious - especially with DH’s friend there. I nibble a bit and pass it over to DH. Then I’m left spiralling over whether DH’s friend, and the waiting staff and other customers are thinking I’m rude for not eating it or gluttonous for ordering it or judging me for everything.

I feel as though, given that DH knows how I feel about food and eating, he should’ve told me that he was no longer having the cream tea.

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Stravaig · 17/08/2025 21:59

Consider this, OP. A wholly imaginary scenario concocted by your eating disorder, in which one or two dozen people observe you eat a cream tea and judge you for it, has sent you spiralling. Your response is to engineer a very real scenario in which you invite thousands of people on a public forum to examine and criticise the actions of your DH. Your behaviour is hypocritical, bullying, even vengeful. You are acting out your symptoms rather than taking responsibility for them and challenging them.

TheFluffyTwo · 17/08/2025 21:56

To be honest, I'd be a bit put out to find myself having what I thought was going to be a nice, sociable snack experience between three people (because in my mind a cream tea is that, really, more than most foods!) turn into a solo activity, and I am someone who couldn't give much of a fig what people think of my eating habits!

I'd just feel the whole dynamic on which I'd based my decision had been shifted without my knowledge and be a bit disappointed.

With the additional context of your ED, yes, your husband was particularly thoughtless. However, if he's usually supportive and an otherwise good and loving husband, it's an entirely forgiveable blip in a fallible human being and I think you should let it go.

I hope you are able to keep going in your recovery and break through ever more barriers so that there are fewer and fewer things that are able to trip you up.

Good luck.

Panicatthegarden · 17/08/2025 21:53

I'm surprised you've had such a rough time on here OP, who likes eating alone!?

It's like if you agreed to split a bottle of wine, two went up to order and came back with water for themselves and a bottle for you. Things are more enjoyable if you all partake. I'm sure your DH just wasn't thinking but I'd be miffed in the same scenario

Edddie · 17/08/2025 21:34

DoRayMeMeMe · 17/08/2025 20:49

Is that a roundabout way of saying. Yes, I do see other people as awful fat and gluttonous with no self control.

Is that your considered opinion of other who eat, or is that the eating disorder talking?

you’ve had several hours to think about this and I’m still not sure what you’re looking for here. is it (a)!Your husband is a cunt (b) you are right, you’re a fat pig (c) something else? (d) checking whether your reaction is normal: a bit yes, but then you started catastrophising and you seem immune to all suggestions about how you could have handled it differently. What is this whole thing really about.

Ha! What a lovely little twist that was!

No. I’m not saying that and please do not put words in my mouth. I said that people do judge what others eat, as evidenced by regular threads on here judging what others eat. It is disingenuous and dishonest to claim otherwise. It’s not as helpful as you’d think to say things that are patently untrue - it’s like telling someone with a fear of flying that planes never crash or telling someone with health anxiety that young people don’t get cancer. It’s blatantly untrue, and because it’s so provably untrue, all it actually proves is “people lie about whether they’re judging you”.

None of those options. Obviously. 🙄 My question is very clear - am I being unreasonable to expect that, in those circumstances, DH turn to me and say that he has changed his mind and is no longer ordering rather than changing the plan for his food but pushing ahead with mine?

I didn’t ask for unsolicited advice on what I should have done differently. In fact, I don’t want unsolicited advice on handling a medical condition from untrained, unqualified and uninformed strangers on the internet. Further, much of that advice is from posters projecting and assuming things that aren’t correct or misreading the OP.

The whole thing is really about exactly what I said it was about.

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DoRayMeMeMe · 17/08/2025 20:49

Edddie · 17/08/2025 18:25

And yet there are posts on here all time judging people for what they eat. All the time.

Edited

Is that a roundabout way of saying. Yes, I do see other people as awful fat and gluttonous with no self control.

Is that your considered opinion of other who eat, or is that the eating disorder talking?

you’ve had several hours to think about this and I’m still not sure what you’re looking for here. is it (a)!Your husband is a cunt (b) you are right, you’re a fat pig (c) something else? (d) checking whether your reaction is normal: a bit yes, but then you started catastrophising and you seem immune to all suggestions about how you could have handled it differently. What is this whole thing really about.

Jotunn9 · 17/08/2025 20:11

GoBackToTheStart · 17/08/2025 16:09

The issue isn’t that he changed his mind. It’s that he changed his mind and didn’t think that maybe he should let his wife know despite being fully aware of the fact that it would upset her to eat alone.

It would have been thoughtless even without an ED to consider - unless I was ravenous I wouldn’t have wanted to sit alone eating either and I have zero issues with food, but it’s doubly so in the circumstances.

This.
I have the same affliction OP. It's horrible and stifling but even for those who have nothing of the sort, as others have said, it messes up the day (because then, one of you has eaten others haven't-they're going to want food at some point leaving others sitting without any food and perhaps causing objection in a restaurant) plus a lot of folk feeling awkward eating alone-ED or not!

He should have taken two minutes to consider you once he'd changed his mind and shouted over for you or come and told you.

Outside9 · 17/08/2025 20:09

YABU. This is a totally normal and benign action from your husband.

While people can empathise with your condition, they can never truly understand and feel the internal challenges you deal with.

It's important to be cognisant of that.

FanofLeaves · 17/08/2025 20:06

MrsLizzieDarcy · 17/08/2025 19:33

It's pretty clear from your updates OP that you're not really managing this at all, your strategies are rigid and inflexible. You can't control what other people are eating so you don't have issues with what is put in front of you.

It doesn't sound like it's a fun way to live for any of you.

No one has an ED for fun.

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 17/08/2025 20:02

Was it a cream tea or a half cream tea ?
as a cream tea ought to be 2 scones with cream and jam.

you mention that ' I nibble a bit and pass it over to DH ' so was there only one scone ? and you nibbled part of one scone, thus sounds like a half cream tea, and it also sounds like you were passing over a half eaten scone for dh to have to eat.
Otherwise if it had been a normal cream tea, surely you would have given dh a whole uneaten unnibbled scone for himself.

oviraptor21 · 17/08/2025 19:50

Laura95167 · 17/08/2025 19:38

I think he behaved horrifically in the circs.

However, try not to let this knock you. You've been doing fantastically! Keep going. Take this as a sign you've been so well with your progress he forgot how impactful this would be.

He owes you an apology but keep going!

100% agree.

oviraptor21 · 17/08/2025 19:49

I'm fully with you OP. It would have been a dick move to pull with anyone, but ten times more so when he knows your issues.
I suspect you didnt really want to eat it anyway, but said yes because your DP and friend were having one. I suspect your DP knows this.
In your situation I would have outright rejected it. With the perfectly good reason that you dont want to eat it if no-one else is having one. If DP tries to pull the same move again, just do this. Hopefully he'll learn.

Laura95167 · 17/08/2025 19:38

I think he behaved horrifically in the circs.

However, try not to let this knock you. You've been doing fantastically! Keep going. Take this as a sign you've been so well with your progress he forgot how impactful this would be.

He owes you an apology but keep going!

MrsLizzieDarcy · 17/08/2025 19:33

It's pretty clear from your updates OP that you're not really managing this at all, your strategies are rigid and inflexible. You can't control what other people are eating so you don't have issues with what is put in front of you.

It doesn't sound like it's a fun way to live for any of you.

DancingInTheBroadDaylight · 17/08/2025 19:27

Your DH leaving you to eat alone is absolutely NOT the same as him lying to you about what is in your food. The former is inconsiderate, the latter is LTB.

I don't think it does you any good to liken the two - you're putting all the responsibility onto your DH, and as you have seen, he can make mistakes.

PamIsAVolleyballChamp · 17/08/2025 19:13

Edddie · 17/08/2025 18:03

Obviously the outcome isn’t the same, no one said it was 🙄🙄

Telling someone to “manage their condition” whilst refusing to give them the information they need to manage their condition - whether their condition is an eating disorder, epilepsy or arthritis - is ridiculous.

In that sense (which is the only sense that it has been presented in), it is identical. You cannot tell someone to “manage your condition” while not allowing them the information they need to do that.

Imagine it’s veganism/vegetarianism instead - absolutely no risk of “death” there. A vegan is responsible for managing their own veganism. If DH knew I’m vegan (I’m not, imagine I am) and I asked him for sausage and mash because the menu says they do vegan sausages. He gets to the counter and they tell him they only have meat sausages left, he orders it anyway, doesn’t tell me it’s not vegan and I eat it. Is that me failing to manage my own veganism?

Why are you putting risks of allergies like that "death"
Do you not agree or believe that there's a risk of death with allergens? Is your ED the only thing that matters and everyone has to acqueicse?
I didn't see the whole issue but had sympathy till that.

phoenixrosehere · 17/08/2025 19:12

YANBU

This would annoy me because why stop for it if you’re not going to eat it and if you’ve changed your mind, still ask if others still want it, especially if it something that would likely be to share.

OP, you have my sympathies. I’ve never had an ED, but I did grow up with people commenting on my portions, what I eat, how I eat and my body/weight.

My mother constantly made comments about me to others in front of me in public, family members the same when I visited them if food was involved, some openly watching me eat and commenting whether or not the portion was big or small. Dealing with that constantly as a child and teen, and it coming up even as an adult is aggravating. Had a colleague mention how I eat at work in front of others and I smiled through it, she didn’t mean any harm, but inside I just sighed because growing up like that, I hated having attention on me.

You’re right that people do judge and comment and plenty of threads on AIBU has proven that. The thread about people not eating all of their food at restaurants and how wasteful it is springs to mind.

Unfortunately for anyone who has any type of anxiety, MH issue, anything that they struggle with, AIBU is the worse place to post because there are always plenty of posters who will use whatever stated issue you’re working on against you and ignore the other factors to say yabu or because it doesn’t bother them, it shouldn’t bother you regardless if you have explained why. They’ll project and add things that aren’t there to suit their narrative so they can say they’re right with no evidence to the fact.

Your DH may have been thoughtless and distracted by his friend and if he is a good guy as you said and was inconsiderate, just ask him about it and let him know it made you uncomfortable and for next time, if he changes his mind, to let you know before he purchases.

Cat3059 · 17/08/2025 19:11

CucumberBagel · 17/08/2025 18:58

My concern is that he did this to put you in a difficult position.

He might just not be so aware of her eating disorder though because it seems like it mostly affects the OP at work.

Cat3059 · 17/08/2025 19:07

Next time could you just ask your DH to share it with you?

I think it would be good to have a plan B like that for when your strategies don't work out.

It's great that you've made progress and can now eat socially. Don't let this derail you, keep pushing yourself to move forward.

fromthegecko · 17/08/2025 19:04

CucumberBagel · 17/08/2025 18:58

My concern is that he did this to put you in a difficult position.

Thank goodness. I thought I was going mad. So many PPs feeling sorry for the DH having to deal with the ill-regulated OP.

What sort of person persuades a companion to come keep them company while they eat something, then only buys the something for the companion and sits there watching them eat it? It's weird.

CucumberBagel · 17/08/2025 18:58

My concern is that he did this to put you in a difficult position.

Thingsthatgo · 17/08/2025 18:53

But your strategies are not helping your mental health or learning to overcome your eating disorder. Your strategies are to lean into your disordered thinking by eating by rules and asking your husband to help manage your rules. You need to break and challenge the rules in order to overcome this.

Stravaig · 17/08/2025 18:51

Edddie · 17/08/2025 18:40

I think there’s a lot of assumptions and projection in this.

DH can be inconsiderate without being abusive. I can be upset that he’s been inconsiderate without being abusive.

I have strategies. One of those strategies is that I eat in line with, or less than, other people. That makes me feel more comfortable. I achieve that by ordering less than others or by ordering the same and only partially eating it. People cannot consider me gluttonous if they, themselves, had more. If I order on that basis and then their order is cancelled, the strategy doesn’t work. I don’t need help on strategies because I have the strategy.

The table was next to the counter, no one else queuing - he was about four feet away. He could’ve turned and asked without even moving. Surely there was nothing on anyone’s plate that made him think “I no longer want to eat anything at all”?

He knows I hate eating in front of others because regularly, if I’ve had a work dinner, I’ll be starving and double-dinner at home.

Your 'strategies' cannot involve controlling other people's behaviour. You can only seek to manage and change your own thoughts and your own behaviour. It sounds like you need an entirely new approach, one where your success is not contingent on coercing others, nor on blaming them when you fail.

Mrsttcno1 · 17/08/2025 18:45

Also, you really need new strategies that don’t put work on someone else’s plate here. Your husband is allowed to change his mind without having to express that immediately to you, that’s part of life, it’s not fair to essentially make your strategies part of his mental load.

Mrsttcno1 · 17/08/2025 18:44

I think maybe you just need to accept this is a you problem and cut him some slack OP. It must be really exhausting for him to not be able to just change his mind about something as simple as a snack without it leading to a lecture from you about how that impacts YOUR day.

Edddie · 17/08/2025 18:40

Stravaig · 17/08/2025 18:30

If DH makes a habit of sabotaging your efforts around food, to belittle you and keep you off-balance, then you are in an abusive relationship and need to leave; who knows, that may even help your eating disorder.

If however you are happy with DH, and intend to stay, then your eating disorder is your responsibility. You can try to communicate your needs and manage your surroundings so as to keep yourself comfortable, but you absolutely cannot insist on the behaviour of others nor enforce penalties for it.

For the cream tea incident you are not taking responsibility. If you were, your thread would have been asking MN for support and strategies to help you manage your intrusive thoughts when you unexpectedly find yourself with a larger meal than your companions when eating in public. Instead you are on a public forum seeking support to blame DH for he and his friend changing their minds about what they wanted to eat. That's pretty extreme on your part and shows how your eating disorder can lead to controlling behaviour in relationship.

It sounds like DH was playing host, so he had his friends wishes to factor in too, as well as meeting his own preferences ofc. It's also not unusual for any person who gets up and circulates to change their mind when they see what is on other plates.

I'd assume there was plenty going on so he just didn't think anything of it. Or even if he did hesitate, maybe it was busy, and he didn't want the rigmarole of reporting their changes back to you, seeing if you wanted to alter your order or not, then back again to a queue. Maybe he thought the extra consultation would make you more self-conscious in front of his friend, and was trying to avoid spiking your anxiety that way. There are so many completely normal and good faith reasons why DH acted as he did.

I suppose you could try to maintain control and therefore comfort by being the only one who gets up to order in future, thus ensuring that no-one else can change their minds from the agreed menu plan. An interim strategy only, because it's coercive.

Edited

I think there’s a lot of assumptions and projection in this.

DH can be inconsiderate without being abusive. I can be upset that he’s been inconsiderate without being abusive.

I have strategies. One of those strategies is that I eat in line with, or less than, other people. That makes me feel more comfortable. I achieve that by ordering less than others or by ordering the same and only partially eating it. People cannot consider me gluttonous if they, themselves, had more. If I order on that basis and then their order is cancelled, the strategy doesn’t work. I don’t need help on strategies because I have the strategy.

The table was next to the counter, no one else queuing - he was about four feet away. He could’ve turned and asked without even moving. Surely there was nothing on anyone’s plate that made him think “I no longer want to eat anything at all”?

He knows I hate eating in front of others because regularly, if I’ve had a work dinner, I’ll be starving and double-dinner at home.

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