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Am I getting old or is the world becoming more inconsiderate?

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GeorgeA12 · 16/08/2025 18:47

Just been on holiday in UK desperately trying to relax from busy year. I just found people being so inconsiderate to their fellow human beings, was struggling to tolerate it all. Some examples:

  1. Person on the train talking loudly on the phone about her upcoming party. The rest of the people in the carriage pretty silent. Why couldn't she know how disruptive she was?
  1. I was kayaking in the sea. I kid you not, a person comes into the sea talking loudly making a video call for ten minutes.
  1. A family trying to make their kid go in the sea. The kid was screaming, not wanting to go in the sea. Went on for twenty mins. Was awful to hear.
  1. Took a bus ride. Walked towards the back of the bus and their is an aggressive looking dog sitting on a seat!
  1. Another bus ride and someone talking loudly about their friends shitting habits for all to hear.
  1. Took my mum out for a nice meal to a restaurant. Half way through the meal a family comes in with a dog. The restaurant is now dog friendly apparently. Sorry I don't want to eat my meal with a dog nearby without being told first.
  1. Another cafe. Three dogs in one person letting one of their dogs paw on the seats.
  1. Having a meal in a pub with my daughter. Parents letting their kids use their phones to watch videos for all to hear. Had to move.
  1. Coming home on the train. Someone playing radio 2 loudly on their phone speakers. Why not wear headphones, I dont want to listen to someone else's noise.

I'm getting to the point where I wish I was born in the early1900s, to avoid all the stress technology brings. I'm 50, just want peace and consideration is it to much to ask from others when out in public? Or am I just not used to how the world operates now?

OP posts:
heartsinvisiblefury · 17/08/2025 13:07

I’d also start up a bus, rail and airline too - same rules. Travel with us if you’re not a twat.

heartsinvisiblefury · 17/08/2025 13:06

I would happily spend my money and time in a restaurant or cafe or pub where inconsiderate main character people who don’t understand the purpose of headphones were told to sling their hook and never return. I might get myself on Dragons Den and open the first ‘Considerate Cafe’….

BogRollBOGOF · 17/08/2025 13:04

And an advertising campaign

"Charlie says use your earphones in public places" Grin

HeadDeskHeadDesk · 17/08/2025 12:59

heartsinvisiblefury · 17/08/2025 12:54

There should be signs everywhere that basically says people who don’t use headphones are twats.

Staff in cafes and restaurants should hand people a laminated sign with the menu that says 'For the comfort and enjoyment of all our customers and staff we ask that you do NOT make phone calls on loudspeaker, or play any music or video footage out loud on any type of device. Please use headphones or your mute button at all times or you will be asked to leave.'

heartsinvisiblefury · 17/08/2025 12:54

There should be signs everywhere that basically says people who don’t use headphones are twats.

HeadDeskHeadDesk · 17/08/2025 12:49

YANBU. The constantly on the phone on loudspeaker or playing videos and music out loud in public places thing is incredibly rude and intrusive but people just don't seem to give a shit about anyone but themselves and their right to do as they please whenever and wherever they like. In restaurants it's particularly bloody rude. Get your child some headphones if they really cannot sit through a meal for an hour without their screen fix.

Littering has got much, much worse in recent years. Fast food cartons and leftovers plus disposable vapes absolutely everywhere. and you can't get down any busy town centre street without getting a waft of someone's weed smoke. Beaches and parks have become rubbish strewn shit holes.

People on bikes or ebikes whizz menacingly in and out of crowds of people on busy streets, at a million miles an hour in pedestrianised areas. It's a miracle they don't hit and seriously injure more people.

People also seem to have lost the art of queueing and taking turns. Everything is just a dog eat dog free-for-all.

Shoplifters don't even bother to try to hide it any more. They just load up their bags right in front of staff, knowing all they need to do is pull a knife or threaten to, and they are safe. And if anyone tries to physically overpower or stop them they know their punishment for assault will be much greater than the punishment for the shoplifting, which is pretty much non-existent. Put up a photo of them in your shop or on social media and you are ordered to take it down.

If a crime is committed against you which doesn't put you in immedite peril, such as burglary or car theft, the very best you can hope for is for an officer to phone you a few days later to issue you with a crime number for insurance purposes. Absolutely zero interest in investigating the crime, yet they seem to have the resources to knock on the doors and issue warnings to people who've said some hurty words on the internet.

I'm only in my fifties but I feel about 100 sometimes, because I honestly don't recognise the UK or the behaviour and attitudes of the people in it any more. It's bewildering. It's become like a third world country in so many respects, and I've spent enough time in third world countries to know what I am talking about.

spoonbillstretford · 17/08/2025 12:48

GeorgeA12 · 17/08/2025 12:43

I'm not looking for it....it's there all around now. Buses and trains were never like they are now.

I take at least six trains a week. People are 99% polite and considerate, and extremely patient and tolerant in the face of delay or overcrowding. I actually find the calm politeness astonishing at times.

BoredZelda · 17/08/2025 12:48

GeorgeA12 · 17/08/2025 12:41

No it was policy. They had to be six foot plus.

When? When I looked at joining in the 90s it was 5’4 for women, 5’8 for men.

GeorgeA12 · 17/08/2025 12:43

spoonbillstretford · 17/08/2025 12:41

I think a lot depends on your personal viewpoint and interpretation. If you look for irritation and inconsiderate behaviour, you'll find it.

I'm not looking for it....it's there all around now. Buses and trains were never like they are now.

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spoonbillstretford · 17/08/2025 12:41

I think a lot depends on your personal viewpoint and interpretation. If you look for irritation and inconsiderate behaviour, you'll find it.

GeorgeA12 · 17/08/2025 12:41

theunbreakablecleopatrajones · 17/08/2025 12:18

I think you just thought they were tall because you were a kid. I am older than you and I don’t remember being frightened of police officers or anyone really.

But next time someone annoys you with their music - ask them to turn it down. Mostly they do.

No it was policy. They had to be six foot plus.

OP posts:
BoredZelda · 17/08/2025 12:38

Didimum · 17/08/2025 12:26

I feel since the 1950s, and perhaps previous to that, the older generations have also looked down on the manners and behaviour of those younger than them.

It’s been happening for centuries.

BoredZelda · 17/08/2025 12:37

You are getting old.

If you ask my mum, she was saying all this stuff back in the 90s about how terrible the world is compared to when she was younger.

The older you get, the less self involved you are and are more likely to be intolerant of other people. Having been around when mobile phones were a new thing, I promise you, people having loud conversations on the phone was way more common than it is now. Toddlers throwing tantrums is not a new thing either.

Live and let live, stick some earphones in and get on with your day. If you hate dogs, stop going to dog friendly places.

Didimum · 17/08/2025 12:26

I feel since the 1950s, and perhaps previous to that, the older generations have also looked down on the manners and behaviour of those younger than them.

DeLaRuiz · 17/08/2025 12:26

GeorgeA12 · 17/08/2025 11:47

I think the backbone has gone out of society. I remember as a kid police officers were over 6ft and woebetide if you did anything wrong. The fear was enough to keep you on the straight and narrow. People not even bothered about them or even getting into trouble now.

I so wish we could get our police force back. I really miss them.

DeLaRuiz · 17/08/2025 12:24

theunbreakablecleopatrajones · 17/08/2025 12:15

That’s a bit extreme PP, I’m sure it was annoying but presumably they were there to remember a mate.

Absolutely agree, I hope I’m remembered with roars of laughter!

RaspberryCloud · 17/08/2025 12:23

shiverm · 17/08/2025 10:21

I saw a man the other week finish loading his shopping into his car, then put the trolley next to his car and drove off. The trolley park was not a long way off, and there was a slight slope. So a) he doesn’t care about it rolling and scratching someone’s car and b) it’s a total lack of respect for the person collecting trolleys. It was just such little effort to not be a dick but still he chose to be one. He was in no rush to leave. Idk, I stared at him hard so he knew he was seen, but it’s just depressing.

Its also been pointed out to me that I’m too keen to make space for everyone else in the street, and so I started paying attention to how much I was scurrying out of people’s paths (we’re talking London and I’m not native to it). I’ve started this hierarchy in my head, I’ll always move out the way of little kids, busy parents, older folk or anyone who’s moving with difficulty/carrying stuff, and apart from that I’ll move if the other person shows signs of moving. We’re talking big men sometimes (but any gender) and they’re fully slamming into me expecting me to scurry. Maybe I look too “nice” but it’s gotten to the point that I’d rather take the literal hit than be walked over.

I do this too! I realised I was the one always stepping aside, letting people (read: men) passed. So I stopped - now I carry on, shoulders back…have literally nearly been knocked over by men who appear not to see me….!!

DeLaRuiz · 17/08/2025 12:23

Whatareyoutalkingaboutnow · 17/08/2025 12:02

I've thought this. It's never nice music, usually heavy drum and base or else horrible grime or rap.

Quite literally ALWAYS utter crap, isn’t it. It’s like a sign of bad taste: they have no idea what real music is, and no idea about noise pollution. Either they are rhino’s in human bodies, or their nervous systems are utterly dead.Honestly, they must be zombies, blasting out those aggressive dirges. I think their quality of life is rock pool level.

Catpiece · 17/08/2025 12:18

theunbreakablecleopatrajones · 17/08/2025 12:15

That’s a bit extreme PP, I’m sure it was annoying but presumably they were there to remember a mate.

Maybe but have some respect

theunbreakablecleopatrajones · 17/08/2025 12:18

GeorgeA12 · 17/08/2025 11:47

I think the backbone has gone out of society. I remember as a kid police officers were over 6ft and woebetide if you did anything wrong. The fear was enough to keep you on the straight and narrow. People not even bothered about them or even getting into trouble now.

I think you just thought they were tall because you were a kid. I am older than you and I don’t remember being frightened of police officers or anyone really.

But next time someone annoys you with their music - ask them to turn it down. Mostly they do.

User32459 · 17/08/2025 12:16

Whatareyoutalkingaboutnow · 17/08/2025 12:02

I've thought this. It's never nice music, usually heavy drum and base or else horrible grime or rap.

Trashy people have trashy taste in music.

theunbreakablecleopatrajones · 17/08/2025 12:15

Catpiece · 17/08/2025 11:54

So much has changed. A real shift in attitudes and entitlement. I went to see my dad’s name in the Book of Remembrance at the local crematorium last Monday. Usually a lovely peaceful place. The visit was ruined by a group of pensioners talking loudly and roaring with laughter. Cunts

That’s a bit extreme PP, I’m sure it was annoying but presumably they were there to remember a mate.

theunbreakablecleopatrajones · 17/08/2025 12:14

Phones and video calls and tech without headphones are dire. I tell people every single time - mostly they do respond.

Definitely more dogs around. I don’t mind this but can see it’s not a welcome change if you do.

The kid screaming by the sea - I think that could easily have been 30 years ago.

I’m not sure people are less considerate, but tech has blurred the line between public and private space, so they are less aware.

Whatareyoutalkingaboutnow · 17/08/2025 12:02

OnlyHerefortheBiscuits · 17/08/2025 09:04

It's never Schumann or Chopin is it?

Something I wouldn't mind catching a snippet of as I pass.

I've thought this. It's never nice music, usually heavy drum and base or else horrible grime or rap.

Catpiece · 17/08/2025 11:54

So much has changed. A real shift in attitudes and entitlement. I went to see my dad’s name in the Book of Remembrance at the local crematorium last Monday. Usually a lovely peaceful place. The visit was ruined by a group of pensioners talking loudly and roaring with laughter. Cunts