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Is this the new CF normal?

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arcticpandas · 16/08/2025 14:44

When I married DH we didn't have a "registar" or anything like that. We said your presence is your gift to us and meant it. Some still gave objects or money in cards. We were ofcourse greatful and thanked them.
As for when our sons were born we got gifts for them from family and friends; all from clothing to toys etc. Mil offered us the stroller that we got to pick out. An aunt and an uncle sent us money. Friends and family sent toys/books/clothing. We thanked everyone and sent out thank you cards.

Now the "new generation" (in their thirties) of family members and friends marrying and having children seem to be really CF (or we're extremely unlucky). Three weddings recently (2 family not close and 1 friends children). All of them asked for money. Ok, fine. Then we get e-mails about where to transfer money. Ok. Then follow up email saying for those who can't transfer there will be a box on the wedding where we can put card with money. It also states we can do both ofcourse (!). We gave 300 £ to family and 200 £ to friends children- never received a personal thank you, just a generic thank you e-mail that went out to all on the list. This for all 3 weddings.

Now two family members have given birth. I was looking forward to find nice gifts that would also be useful. Well, that was until I received e-mails from both couples (they used the wedding group mail) where they stated that monetary gifts for the baby can be transferred on x account and for those wanting to buy physical gifts they have a registar in two different shops. One with extremely pricey clothing (the least expensive gift they had chosen was 65£) and one with wooden toys and furniture (also extremely expensive but there were some things around 50-70£).

I just don't want to get any of them anything. It's on my DH side so I will let him deal with it. I just can't get over their greediness and entitlement. Some of their family members are wealthy but some not at all but they will still buy something and then maybe eat pasta for the rest of the month. I don't remember anyone doing this 15-20 years ago. We surely didn't. I wouldn't dream of doing it because it just feels like CFuckery.

AIBU?
YES- At 45 you're old and do not understand that this is how it's done now.
NO- It's wrong to pressure family and friends into giving things they might not afford.

OP posts:
Iloveanicegarden · 17/08/2025 22:06

Denim4ever · 16/08/2025 15:00

Re money - people definitely get more than if you buy a gift unless you are very careful. Upthread it says £300 for family. I don't think anyone other than a parent is giving a£300 present.

We have no children but were quite generous (we think so anyway) to our nieces. We paid for the honeymoon for niece 1, as well as making the wedding cake with lots of hand made sugar flowers. Private thanks and acknowledgement at wedding. All good. Second niece didn't look like she was going to marry so we gifted her the same amount. No 'thanks!' Then about 3 months later a wedding was announced. Groom said 'well, we've already booked a holiday- this will be good as spends on ice cream' FYI it was £1000!. THEN, when wedding date was set a gift list was received. Oh, and also made their cake, again with hand made sugar flowers which took hours to make.

BruceAndNosh · 17/08/2025 22:03

If they couldn't be arsed to write or email a personal thank you for your £££ wedding gift, they'd be getting fuck all from me.
I took smart stationery on my honeymoon with me, and wrote at least 2 thank you letters every day and posted them all the day after we got back.

Arlanymor · 17/08/2025 22:03

Kim930 · 17/08/2025 22:01

That’s lovely of you. Lucky girls.

Yeah, we’ve done thank you cards from our two since they had their new baby gifts. We buy some cheap photo ones online every year after their birthday - not that that’s necessary of course. I’d be a bit disappointed to say the least if my DC grew up to not take some time to say thank you properly for a gift.

Totally agree with you. (Aww thanks, they are lovely humans and they definitely deserve it!)

Kim930 · 17/08/2025 22:01

Arlanymor · 17/08/2025 19:54

Also I’d like to add that I am going to put £50 each into my goddaughters’ premium bonds at the end of the month to congratulate them on their exam results (one has just done her A-Levels, the other her GCSEs). I’m seeing them at the same time - guaranteed a couple of weeks later there will be two lovely thank you cards in my post box. Their Mum is adamant that you say thank you properly for gifts - be they money or something else. (And I’m going to get them necklaces with their initials locked into a geometric design as an ‘opening’ present).

That’s lovely of you. Lucky girls.

Yeah, we’ve done thank you cards from our two since they had their new baby gifts. We buy some cheap photo ones online every year after their birthday - not that that’s necessary of course. I’d be a bit disappointed to say the least if my DC grew up to not take some time to say thank you properly for a gift.

Kelly1969 · 17/08/2025 21:57

arcticpandas · 17/08/2025 19:48

There are four of us: DH, me and two sons.

That’s fair enough but it’s still a lot but obviously up to you!
I think my problem would be if the people were ungrateful, which I think they were when a personal thank you wasn’t given.

Mummof3cuties · 17/08/2025 21:36

Get them an in ear thermometer, the most useful thing they don’t know they need. Job done.

Mummof3cuties · 17/08/2025 21:36

Get them an in ear thermometer, the most useful thing they don’t know they need. Job done.

Thehappygardener · 17/08/2025 21:35

Very, very important to say thank you properly.

I recently gave my only niece a lot of money (£1000’s +++) towards her first flat and neither she nor her parents thanked me. She won’t be getting much as a wedding present!

TubeScreamer · 17/08/2025 21:27

Incredibly rude and entitled.

Zoono · 17/08/2025 21:22

I've never been married and never asked for any gifts for my now 2 year old DD. My family were pretty generous but I never thought of asking for anything. It's just tacky imo .

BooneyBeautiful · 17/08/2025 21:18

Rpop · 17/08/2025 20:43

Knitted cardigan present is so thoughtful and cute. I remember crying when I opened some before my son was born (good tears). I think it’s a bit tacky to have a gift list for a new baby. I’m sure you’ll put most people’s backs up by doing it. Wedding, it’s traditional but I can see nowadays people have already moved in together / own / rent their own homes etc so asking for cash makes sense. However, I think it’s polite to say “it’s just your presence not your presents we would like” to give people the choice.

Absolutely! Went to NDN's wedding reception a couple of years ago and they requested money towards their honeymoon. I was happy to oblige, but I know they wouldn't have minded if we hadn't given them any money.

DD has lots of friends who have had babies this year, and they all seem to be delighted with the garments I have knitted. In fact, I have had requests for some more! Knitting stops me from snacking in the evening!

1543click · 17/08/2025 21:15

My " children" are all at that wedding, baby stage and have all sent out handwritten thank you cards.
No lists at all for the babies.
Most of their friends have done the same.
There are some younger people left who have manners.

sanityisamyth · 17/08/2025 21:12

Couldn’t work out how the marriage was legal without a registrar. Took most of the post to work out you meant register. Most people are now grabby and self-centred.

SaladAndChipsForTea · 17/08/2025 21:06

Yabu because some of that just is how things are done now (email thank you and gift registries).

But you are only being unreasonable of you don't feel able to just shrug about it because you know that you don't have to actually follow the list. You can just pretend it doesn't exist and buy something cute that's in your budget.

It's a wish list, not a requirement.

Imo it's crazy to give anything if you expect anything in return. I gave generously to a cousin and didn't hear a dicky bird. So what? I hope they enjoyed the gift as much as i enjoyed the weddinf and I hope they enjoyed even more not having to wrote hundreds of thank yous to "sing for their supper". The only difference between you and me is that I'm not worked up about it.

Horsie · 17/08/2025 21:05

I think gift registers are a great idea. The new couple or new parents get what they need, instead of random stuff that they might not need and that doesn't match. And it's a great way not to end up with three toasters or the same three baby books.

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 17/08/2025 20:52

We got married 13 years ago and we set up a holiday account with Virgin Holidays and gave the link to anyone who asked. I know people think it's tacky but we didn't need anything but people kept asking us what they could buy us. I wrote a thank you card to anyone who contributed or gave us a present - I'd have been embarrassed if I hadn't! I prefer giving money over buying presents.

I've never seen a registry for a baby thankfully and wouldn't buy off it. Then again I wouldn't go to a baby shower either!

TheMauveBeaker · 17/08/2025 20:48

Still waiting for a thank you for a cash gift given to a close family member (younger generation) when they got married last December. Nothing, not even a generic email or text.

Rpop · 17/08/2025 20:43

BooneyBeautiful · 17/08/2025 19:39

Weddings (evening reception only) £50. For baby showers and new babies, I knit a cardigan/jacket/shawl. DP and I seem to get invited to a lot of anniversary/significant birthday parties where we are told no need for a gift, but I always email a £25 gift card for a local restaurant. Everyone seems happy with the above, especially the knitted garments for new babies!

Knitted cardigan present is so thoughtful and cute. I remember crying when I opened some before my son was born (good tears). I think it’s a bit tacky to have a gift list for a new baby. I’m sure you’ll put most people’s backs up by doing it. Wedding, it’s traditional but I can see nowadays people have already moved in together / own / rent their own homes etc so asking for cash makes sense. However, I think it’s polite to say “it’s just your presence not your presents we would like” to give people the choice.

ThePerkyEagle · 17/08/2025 20:40

Wow, I’m shocked!!
I definitely wouldn’t buy anything from the registry for the baby! Just buy what you’d like to and hopefully they’ll be grateful!!

MoonWoman69 · 17/08/2025 20:28

@Sadworld23 I very much doubt @UsingAMansNameInAWomensWorld will be bothered about being struck off your Christmas card list love, considering they were clearly brought up with no regard and most certainly no manners whatsoever!

I always wrote thank you letters for any gift I received, monetary or physical, from being a child. It is the done thing in my view. I also wrote personal thank you letters after my wedding in 1995, mentioning the gift and how I'd used/spent it.
It's all down to manners and common courtesy, both things seem to be sadly lacking these days.

I also think wedding registers are grabby, rude and entitled. It's ok to ask for money or gift vouchers, but as an aside to the main reason, that they'd love for you to attend the wedding and share their celebration.
Baby showers aren't something I can get on board with. Very entitled, again grabby and showy, just for having a baby! No, you will get a gift, even of your own choosing, if you need something specific, after the event and not before!

Tedsnan1 · 17/08/2025 20:22

UsingAMansNameInAWomensWorld · 16/08/2025 15:35

They had a thank you

They didn't deem it good enough

Saying "I gave £200, I expected a personal thank you" is very much expecting fawning for being so generous

Hard disagree to this. All gifts should receive a personal thank you. Ideally a card, or a letter.
Where have decency and manners gone?

Jayne35 · 17/08/2025 20:17

Weddings, happy to give money, baby showers and births, nothing unless immediate family for a birth, I wouldn’t go to a baby shower in the first place.

restingbitchface30 · 17/08/2025 20:16

Nah you’re not wrong one bit. I’ve got a good male friend. When he got married it said on the invitation we will only accept money as a gift. I found it tacky. So tacky that I only had it in me to give them £50. Had it not been on the invitation and worded that way I would have given more. And we didn’t even get a generic thank you let alone a personal one! Now they’re pregnant and just had their baby shower. On the invitation we were sent the gift registry where we could buy their things. It just doesn’t sit well with me. I’m getting married soon and have everything I need. I will be asking for people to donate to a charity instead.

Tartantotty · 17/08/2025 20:13

Manners have gone out of the door in this country. There is a feeling of entitlement everywhere, it horrible.

Viviennemary · 17/08/2025 20:12

It's totally crass rude ignorant and entitled. I knew it wouldn't be long before these dreadful money demands would start to infiltrate other occasions and not just weddings