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Is this the new CF normal?

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arcticpandas · 16/08/2025 14:44

When I married DH we didn't have a "registar" or anything like that. We said your presence is your gift to us and meant it. Some still gave objects or money in cards. We were ofcourse greatful and thanked them.
As for when our sons were born we got gifts for them from family and friends; all from clothing to toys etc. Mil offered us the stroller that we got to pick out. An aunt and an uncle sent us money. Friends and family sent toys/books/clothing. We thanked everyone and sent out thank you cards.

Now the "new generation" (in their thirties) of family members and friends marrying and having children seem to be really CF (or we're extremely unlucky). Three weddings recently (2 family not close and 1 friends children). All of them asked for money. Ok, fine. Then we get e-mails about where to transfer money. Ok. Then follow up email saying for those who can't transfer there will be a box on the wedding where we can put card with money. It also states we can do both ofcourse (!). We gave 300 £ to family and 200 £ to friends children- never received a personal thank you, just a generic thank you e-mail that went out to all on the list. This for all 3 weddings.

Now two family members have given birth. I was looking forward to find nice gifts that would also be useful. Well, that was until I received e-mails from both couples (they used the wedding group mail) where they stated that monetary gifts for the baby can be transferred on x account and for those wanting to buy physical gifts they have a registar in two different shops. One with extremely pricey clothing (the least expensive gift they had chosen was 65£) and one with wooden toys and furniture (also extremely expensive but there were some things around 50-70£).

I just don't want to get any of them anything. It's on my DH side so I will let him deal with it. I just can't get over their greediness and entitlement. Some of their family members are wealthy but some not at all but they will still buy something and then maybe eat pasta for the rest of the month. I don't remember anyone doing this 15-20 years ago. We surely didn't. I wouldn't dream of doing it because it just feels like CFuckery.

AIBU?
YES- At 45 you're old and do not understand that this is how it's done now.
NO- It's wrong to pressure family and friends into giving things they might not afford.

OP posts:
bevm72yellow · 16/08/2025 17:48

Good idea about about a Bible gift as that is the meaning of the event and not a gift grab. I say that as somebody without religious belief.

Toastedpickle · 16/08/2025 17:47

UsingAMansNameInAWomensWorld · 16/08/2025 16:32

I'm also not a fan of gender reveals and baby showers mind.

I think a gift for a baby can be given when the baby arrives. And if the new parents are so tired they only stick a thank you in a group chat at 1am in the morning, I don't care. They're busy, they have other stuff going on and I know they're thankful

Baby showers and gender reveals are honestly the most entitled thing. No one enjoys going to these - sitting around with a load of people you probably don’t know for what reason? It’s just so the mother to be can get gifts. It’s so grabby. Just wait until the baby is here when people at least may get to look at or cuddle a cute baby instead of sniffing a nappy rubbed in marmite - makes me cringe.

the5thgoldengirl · 16/08/2025 17:46

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frozendaisy · 16/08/2025 17:46

It’s so everything is high net worth for the ‘gram’ account

frozendaisy · 16/08/2025 17:45

Now there are babies this might become an annual thing, actually you have baby birthday and wedding anniversary

Poopeepoopee · 16/08/2025 17:43

arcticpandas · 16/08/2025 15:38

If only. I didn't ask. Since I have 2 children already I had plenty ideas. Then out of the blue I got the gift list per mail.

Ah. That changes things then. Thats incredibly rude.

Coastliner · 16/08/2025 17:41

UsingAMansNameInAWomensWorld · 16/08/2025 15:43

You're expecting them to fanny around sending potential 50+ personalised emails gushing about how wonderful each person is

They thanked everyone

Just because you wanted them to personally acknowledge you were so wonderful to give them so much (£300 is a ridiculous amount)

Back when it seemed people actually had manners you sent a written personal thank you card to everyone who bought a gift. Now you can't even be bothered with an email. Entitled CFs.

Naddd · 16/08/2025 17:39

£300 each! No way would I ever gift so much or could even afford to! £200 for a friend's child!!!
I think you're bonkers giving so much!

Mrsttcno1 · 16/08/2025 17:38

I don’t think it’s an awful idea but it depends how it is done as to whether I find it cheeky. We’ve been to weddings which have the “your presence is gift enough, but if you do want to give something then money towards xyz would be much appreciated” on the invites and I don’t think that’s bad really. People live together before getting married now, they don’t need items really so I think suggesting if you do want to give a gift, although don’t have to, money is appreciated.

The baby thing again, I think it depends how its done. We have a toddler and it never occurred to me to do a list or anything like that, didn’t ask or expect anyone to buy anything for our baby, some people did buy gifts for her and we ended up with lots of newborn or 0-3 clothes that never got worn because she grew too fast or just had too many, so they did go to waste in that we never used them. Now pregnant with baby number 2 and was hoping maybe those items could be used for this baby, but this one is a boy so won’t be wearing a pink “new baby girl” sleepsuit😂 I can see the benefit if you have people asking what you need/want in letting them know what you need so that at least you do get things that are useful. I have a friend who had made a baby gift list thing on Amazon which had things they needed on & she let people know it existed in a “if you do want to get us something then here’s some ideas but no pressure” way, the list had items for a few £ like baby shampoo up to I think from memory a baby carrier £85 was the most expensive thing on there, most things I would say were around £10-15, again I don’t think this is bad.

BUT I was invited to a colleague’s baby shower a couple of months ago which had a “gift” QR code on it, scanning that took you to her 3 baby registries and similar to you OP the cheapest thing on any of them was around the £80 mark and I thought that was just really cheeky.

AnnaFrith · 16/08/2025 17:37

toomuchfaff · 16/08/2025 14:48

Buy them some plastic tat from pound land.

Definitely this.
Giving details of gift registers/lists/bank details for money transfers etc WITHOUT BEING ASKED FIRST is incredibly rude.
You should never assume someone wants to give you a present, and should express gratitude for anything you receive.

Coastliner · 16/08/2025 17:36

UsingAMansNameInAWomensWorld · 16/08/2025 14:58

People don't want loads of tat they aren't going to use like nappy cakes, twenty "cute new baby photoframes", Mr and Mrs glasses. Equally, people don't tend to marry and then move in together so don't need stuff to set up a new home.

Money is the thing they need most. Whether for honeymoon or home improvement or for the child's future etc

No, I don't think it's cheeky at all. It's still just asking for what they want.

If the baby list is too expensive, give money.

And you got a thank you. Sorry that they didn't fawn all over you for being so generous

Wow! Do you have any manners at all?

Cosyblankets · 16/08/2025 17:36

Yellowbirdcage · 16/08/2025 16:20

I got my first baby shower invitation recently. I can’t go but checked with others who’d been invited and they’re still sending a gift. So I will too. The linked list has some verrry expensive things. Like a £240 bouncer! The mum is arranging the shower herself which I thought wasn’t the done thing.
I got a boring thing from the list but it’s a shame I don’t get the fun of choosing a cute outfit or toy and bringing it along when I get to meet the baby.

I’ve also been to a few weddings in last couple of years and have received lovely personal messages. Also for gifts I’ve bought for babies and toddlers. I must know gracious people.

Maybe it’s technology. There’s an app for everything now so it’s easy to put a wish list together. Not like when I got married and had to make an appointment at Debenhams!

If i couldn't attend a baby shower i wouldn't send a gift i would just buy something when the baby comes

Judiezones · 16/08/2025 17:30

YANBU ,it's very cheeky.
We have two weddings this year. One sent a link to a page where you pay money towards their honeymoon. You had to buy things, such as afternoon tea for two, a couple's massage, etc., all really expensive. We ignored it and gave them cash, but got no thank you.
For the other wedding, on the invitation they state that they don't expect any gift as they have been together a while and have what they need. We gave them a gift card so they can treat themselves to something. We gave them considerably more than we gave the money-grabbing CFs. We got a lovely thank you card too!

Enrichetta · 16/08/2025 17:24

ItsFineReally · 16/08/2025 16:14

@UsingAMansNameInAWomensWorld You're expecting them to fanny around sending potential 50+ personalised emails

For a wedding? Yes. Do people genuinely not do that any more?

Sadly, it seems to be pretty much the norm these days.

Whereas in the past the norm was to send a thank-you card with a personal message, usually accompanied by a photo from the wedding.

I still feel that a personalised email that refers to the gift and includes a photo is not too much to expect.

Sarah2891 · 16/08/2025 17:23

If someone gifts you £300 it's rude as hell not to send a personal thank you. I would send a personal thanks for any gift.

SandyDunesCoffeeShack · 16/08/2025 17:22

300 euros. Wow. Where do you live and what's your income

DrPrunesqualer · 16/08/2025 17:22

I would never give money but I would tell them I never give money
with the reason so they are in no doubt

Id then buy something

PipMartin · 16/08/2025 17:20

Our two nieces, one mine, one his, asked for money when they got married. One towards a 3 week exotic honeymoon in Asia (a holiday we couldn't have afforded) as they didn't need anything. The other asked for money to refurbish their kitchen (I would have liked to do up my own kitchen). Think we gave them £100 each. We also spent a few hundred on travel and hotels. I think we got generic thank you emails. Both young women left their husbands within a year of the weddings. One because she was annoyed her husband didn't want children, and one because she decided she is a lesbian. Both situations were avoidable you'd think. It does seem entitled and immature

ThankYouNigel · 16/08/2025 17:20

Cutleryclaire · 16/08/2025 15:55

Aside from never expecting a gift, I love that gifts chosen by others are varied and unique, rather being limited by my own research and imagination.

This is such a good point! I agree, our babies received some lovely clothes/accessories/toys from different shops from where we live. Also things we didn’t know about as first time parents which were really useful! Great for little ones to try out some different things.

girljulian · 16/08/2025 17:19

Mothership4two · 16/08/2025 17:01

I have yet to be invited to a gender reveal @Ilovepastafortea and @UsingAMansNameInAWomensWorld but refuse to go to baby showers (can't think of anything worse). I give a gift to the new baby when I see it.

The only time I was ever invited to a baby shower, I made an excuse not to go because I was chatting to my mother about it and we both for whatever reason felt it was a bit of a "tempting fate" behaviour. I will admit we're both a bit superstitious, but then the mum tragically lost her baby during labour at 41 weeks due to marginal cord insertion. So now I'm definitely never ever going to a baby shower!!

NotAnotherPylon · 16/08/2025 17:19

UsingAMansNameInAWomensWorld · 16/08/2025 16:43

It's a faff. And sending cards and paper notes it a waste of the world's dwindling resources

I'm glad my friends and family are more understanding of how precious time is and that I'd rather spend actual time with them than sit writing personalised thank yous when a message in a group chat/email to all does the same job

Yeah, oh I dunno, I’d hazard a wild guess that they wouldn’t suffer TOO much if you closeted yourself away for an hour or two writing thank you notes.

girljulian · 16/08/2025 17:16

My parents had a registry for their wedding, and they were married in 1983. Both from very working-class families, didn't have a honeymoon. I know they got a shit-ton of presents though. Most of them were "useful" things but a lot of them were expensive. It may seem more tacky to ask for money, but when you're already living together, you're less likely to have a need for the sorts of things my parents asked for. But wedding registries are not at all new.

Never ever heard of anyone asking for money for a baby or having a "registry" for that, though.

Catwoman8 · 16/08/2025 17:13

I think money for weddings now is the norm so that wouldn't bother me. I would rather give money so the couple can use the money for something useful. However, asking upfront for guests to pay funds into an account I think is cheeky..

I hate people trying to force guests to buy particular things for a new baby though. I think that is entitled behaviour, I certainly never asked for anything , and was greatful for anyone who bought a gift for my baby at the time. I am of this generation you speak of, we aren't all like this.

Mothership4two · 16/08/2025 17:12

@ChocolateCinderToffee

IMO, you wait until you are asked what you would like and you don't ask for money unless that's your cultural norm.

👍👍

Denim4ever · 16/08/2025 17:12

BubblesCarpet · 16/08/2025 16:40

Lol, that's funny

Also in many cultures it's expected to give money, but the amounts quoted by OP are generous ones (I assume it was for 2 people attending).

2 people attending, I've never heard of couple gifts needing to be bigger than those of an individual. If your invite is for a couple that's one gift