What do you think of when you hear LGBTQ+?

Yes I do! I said #hurtyfeelz ? Why the fuck was that deleted?? It's a flippant comment to suggest a straight man's feelings have been hurt by not being recognised as a woman. @mumsnet if you could clarify what I said that was delete worthy I'd be grateful? Unless I've accidentally quoted a tag that exists that represents something horrific that I'm not aware of it ?

I associate it with trans.

It's now been deleted, but I'm sure you remember what you said.

What term ??

I agree
I don't like the mix of sexuality and gender identity, it doesn't seem the same thing to me

I think you'll find queer people will be able to stop doing that when heteronormativity stops being a thing.

Agree with this completely. I'd have said no to the badge as well.

I agree OP, the oddballs have hijacked the meaning. Those who are standard homosexual don’t get a look in. I think those who are homosexual need to push back against it, as if heterosexuals do so, they will just be called haters.

@BelperLawnmowerthat person is biologically a man. How is he not?

Then the others cry "well where is your black lives matter badge ? Where is your baby loss awareness ribbon? Where's your supporting male survivors of domestic abuse badge ? Where's your Muslim support week ?

This is highly exclusionary, what about your poppy, your keffiyeh and 193 flags to represent all nations of the UN?

Would you care to expand on that term?

I think of a sandwich

I agree. acceptance and just 'being' was once the aim of the game - and I think we all agree anyone who disagrees with that probably has some phobic feelings.

But celebrating? Nobody needs to celebrate any sexuality or lack of.

Honestly, I think of it as virtue signalling. I also think it’s strange to be ‘proud’ of being LGBTQI++ etc - I’m none of those, just a straight woman. I don’t feel pride about what is in fact something I can do absolutely nothing about. I feel proud about things I’ve achieved in my life, but sexuality isn’t one of those things.

I find the whole thing tedious. I don't give a fuck who you fuck and fail to see why I should. I avoid anything with rainbows on it.

Sorry, potentially transphobic! Many people in the T category regard themselves as straight. Someone born male who now identifies as a woman and is attracted to men will most likely identify as straight. Saying otherwise would suggest that that person is a man.

LGB make sense to be grouped as non hetro sexual attraction to others. A, is that asexual? Perhaps that could be included as relates to (non) sexual attraction.

The other letters (as far as I'm aware) are more about self expression and your feelings and identity and don't seem relevant to your attraction to others and actually can conflict with the sexual orientation (trans and same sex attraction).

But you shouldn't have to "wear a rainbow lanyard" to show you support gay people. This is where the silliness and division started. Then big organisations starting tripping over each other to orgasm over their own virtue signalling to splash rainbows all over their shops. Worst thing is when embarrassingly the police and NHS started it. Never ever should have got involved. All workers should be 100% neutral to all people. That's literally our job. Wearing a rainbow lanyard as say a Dr, makes it look like anyone not wearing one doesn't support gay people. Then the others cry "well where is your black lives matter badge ? Where is your baby loss awareness ribbon? Where's your supporting male survivors of domestic abuse badge ? Where's your Muslim support week ? " And the NHS will cream it's proverbial knickers desperately knocking up these new things. I repeat : we do our job, we support all. anyone overtly displaying discrimination towards anyone should be dealt with. Neutrality means no flags/pins and badges/ribbons. It causes division and bias. They took Bibles out of hospital to aid neutrality, so practice what you bloody well preach and go the whole hog

i think of nothing, i dont give a fuck what your sexual orientation is, just be whatever you are in silence and stop pushing it in my face

I just hear 'Queer community' in all shapes and sizes.

I avoid LGBTQ+ because as part of that + there is a movement by some to have paedofillia recognised as a sexual orientation under the term “minor attracted person” and I will not do anything to support something which in anyway supports that.

I just 🙄. The regressive, harmful trans movement has fucked it. The LGB people I know refer to LGB which I fully support, they want no part of the rest.

I take it that it's a set of letters meant to encapsulate all people who are gay or trans to varying degrees.

The 'plus' I would tend to kind of ignore. I've heard it can mean really disturbing fetishes which is not something I associate with normal attraction or feelings about one's own body.

If someone wanted to talk to me about trans issues specifically I'd expect them to be able to just say so. Same with lesbian or gay issues.

I wouldn't expect someone to use 'LGBTQ+' in actual spoken conversation. Unless they were running a training course or working in that field.

I wonder what the next letter or character will be. It seems to be getting longer and longer.

With that said it is important there isn’t discrimination against those with protected characteristics.