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What do you think of when you hear LGBTQ+?

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purpledaze24 · 16/08/2025 11:43

It seems these days, when people see/hear LGBTQ+ they think of trans people & the trans debate. Is this accurate do you think? Or AIBU? I read on here recently about someone rejecting a rainbow badge given to her to wear at work to celebrate pride month (presumably not cos she was homophobic but rather, anti-trans). As a lesbian, this makes me really sad. I’ve always been proud to be a ‘rainbow family’ and want my kids to be proud too, but this association, and takeover imo, of the rainbow symbol & LGBTQ+ acronym by the gender ideology brigade, is creating, at best erasure of LGB people, and at worst, (maybe unintentional) homophobia and discrimination. I respect & understand that trans people have played an important role in the LGBT struggle historically, but it’s this ridiculous escalation of it & all these ‘trans trenders’ and being able to identify as one of 72 different genders etc 🙄

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LittlePigRobinson · 16/08/2025 19:29

Millytante · 16/08/2025 18:03

Turmeric, maybe? Or glucosamine.
That is to say: gawd only knows what else is going to be hoovered into the rainbow initials maw.
This urge microscopically to categorise a population into mini tribes has done bugger all to increase brotherly love, I reckon. Dividing people into strictly discrete groups not only reduces a person to one sole personality facet, it introduces a suggestion of embattled identity, where one’s own characteristics are the only true way and so you face the world with all your spines pointing outwards. Victory over some other group is essential, given your battle-ready response to the day, and it’s only quantifiable through blood on the cobbles.

You've just succinctly summed up the way I feel about identity politics and how it repelled me so much I stopped voting Labour as the party became more divided because of it.

GrouachMacbeth · 16/08/2025 19:28

Why do I need to know?
If you move in next door and introduce yourself and your wife I'll assume you are lesbians and love is love, likewise if "Hi, were Reg and David". Come on round for a cup of tea.
"Hi I'm Billy and I'm gay' wrf? "I'm Louise and I like it doggy style!"

ScreamingBeans · 16/08/2025 19:25

To answer the OP, what I think when I see LGBT+ is "pronoun wankers".

Sharptonguedwoman · 16/08/2025 18:05

Hoppinggreen · 16/08/2025 14:59

I agree
I don't like the mix of sexuality and gender identity, it doesn't seem the same thing to me

Thank you. Absolutely agree.

NotMyRealAccount · 16/08/2025 18:04

I'd think, "Does this have an impact on women's rights? If not, it's none of my business and I'll steer clear." And if it's a retailer, LGBTQ+ on the door will make me think, "I'm not their target market, that's OK, I'll shop somewhere else."

I refused a rainbow lanyard and a fleece with a rainbow logo at work. I'm not part of the rainbow, I'm not an ally of the TQ+ part of the rainbow, and it would look like appropriation.

Millytante · 16/08/2025 18:03

Shedmistress · 16/08/2025 16:39

What does the + stand for? I've always wondered.

Turmeric, maybe? Or glucosamine.
That is to say: gawd only knows what else is going to be hoovered into the rainbow initials maw.
This urge microscopically to categorise a population into mini tribes has done bugger all to increase brotherly love, I reckon. Dividing people into strictly discrete groups not only reduces a person to one sole personality facet, it introduces a suggestion of embattled identity, where one’s own characteristics are the only true way and so you face the world with all your spines pointing outwards. Victory over some other group is essential, given your battle-ready response to the day, and it’s only quantifiable through blood on the cobbles.

maudelovesharold · 16/08/2025 17:59

I read on here recently about someone rejecting a rainbow badge given to her to wear at work to celebrate pride month (presumably not cos she was homophobic but rather, anti-trans).

Just to say, you don’t have to be homophobic or ‘anti-trans’ to refuse to wear a rainbow badge or to celebrate pride month. Not everyone feels the need to be performative.

It’s just the same mentality which had Facebook ‘witch hunts’ against people who, because they didn’t want to stand on their doorsteps clapping like performing seals, obviously hated the NHS!

BelperLawnmower · 16/08/2025 17:57

SquishedMallow · 16/08/2025 17:46

I do fully understand if a trans woman had come on here and said "I feel saddened when I'm not recognised as a woman " and I'd put "hurtyfeelz" but it was in response to a post that was tongue in cheek basically saying "we're all phobic if we don't agree that a man is a woman" and that was my own tongue in cheek response. Do you get what I'm saying? It wasn't dismissing or belittling in that context. It was an agreement

Honestly, I'd let it go. Getting a post deleted from a Mumsnet thread on transgender issues is all part of the experience!

slashlover · 16/08/2025 17:56

Just to confirm

Being sexually attracted to the same sex = ok
Being sexually attracted to the opposite sex = ok
Being sexually attracted to both sees = ok

Being sexually attracted to neither sex = navel gazing/blur haired/alphabet letters?

BarilynBordeaux · 16/08/2025 17:52

I groan inwardly. I’ve supported the LGB community of which I am a part my whole life, now it’s been hijacked into a sloppy ‘me, myself, and my navel’ movement undoing decades of work.

SquishedMallow · 16/08/2025 17:46

BelperLawnmower · 16/08/2025 17:44

I'm guessing "hurtyfeelz" is pretty dismissive, fairly childish and not remotely helpful (especially when it was the only word in your post).

(I'm not a big fan of that sort of authoritarian moderation either, but that seems to me to be likely to be why.)

I do fully understand if a trans woman had come on here and said "I feel saddened when I'm not recognised as a woman " and I'd put "hurtyfeelz" but it was in response to a post that was tongue in cheek basically saying "we're all phobic if we don't agree that a man is a woman" and that was my own tongue in cheek response. Do you get what I'm saying? It wasn't dismissing or belittling in that context. It was an agreement

BelperLawnmower · 16/08/2025 17:44

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I'm guessing "hurtyfeelz" is pretty dismissive, fairly childish and not remotely helpful (especially when it was the only word in your post).

(I'm not a big fan of that sort of authoritarian moderation either, but that seems to me to be likely to be why.)

SquishedMallow · 16/08/2025 17:43

TheKeatingFive · 16/08/2025 17:40

You'll have to ask them directly. They won't respond to questions on a thread.

I've emailed them twice but still no response. As someone else said though, perhaps less staff at weekend. Sorry to derail.

Millytante · 16/08/2025 17:43

MarvellousMonsters · 16/08/2025 17:04

Absolutely the trans community has hijacked the LGB community. Every lesbian I know is sick of it, whilst a frustrating number of gay men seem to be fine with it.

Yep. You’d not have to wonder for long whether it’s ‘gay’ or ‘men’ being the stumbling block in that cadre, would you?
When the chips are down, it’s women in second place when there ought not have been a contest at all. Lesbians are compadres only until more acceptable ‘women’ turn up to the rally, for this type of ‘G’.

slashlover · 16/08/2025 17:42

Hoardasurass · 16/08/2025 15:21

People with DSDs have repeatedly asked not to be referred to as intersex and specifically asked not to be lumped in with the alphabet soup.
Asexual is nonsense

Cheers for calling me nonsense.

JLou08 · 16/08/2025 17:40

I think of Pride, I think of the gay night scene where there is freedom and acceptance of everyone. I don't think of it in a negative way. They're the initial thoughts, then I think of the struggles people from the LGBT community have faced. I feel sad that it seemed that was being overcome and things were improving but now it's become acceptable to actively discriminate against trans people, just as it's becoming more socially acceptable to for racism and xenophobia, ableism is also on the rise. I worry that shortly we will return to there being more social acceptance of being openly homophonic. The media is slowly turning all groups against each other, gay and lesbian are likely to be the next group.

ForTheNightOrTheRestOfTime · 16/08/2025 17:40

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Start a thread in site stuff and ask if they’re not replying to your email, although maybe they have less staff on at the weekend??

TheKeatingFive · 16/08/2025 17:40

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You'll have to ask them directly. They won't respond to questions on a thread.

SquishedMallow · 16/08/2025 17:36

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BelperLawnmower · 16/08/2025 17:36

Createausername1970 · 16/08/2025 17:22

I think

"I thought the aim was all people being equal, so why is a chunk of the population wanting to set themselves apart"

I await my flaming.

Incoming roasting - you can be apart and still be equal.

Christwosheds · 16/08/2025 17:35

DeLaRuiz · 16/08/2025 12:06

Really bored of rainbow propaganda. Forced inclusiveness of people who want nothing to do with the unbalanced ideology. A kind of fascism and definitely thought police.

This.
And why shops feel they need to use it is beyond me. Shops ! Anyone can go into a shop and buy something, what on earth has sex, sexuality, or the ridiculous “gender identity” got to do with groceries, or shampoo.

SquishedMallow · 16/08/2025 17:33

ForTheNightOrTheRestOfTime · 16/08/2025 16:20

I don’t remember your post but you can ask them on site stuff, or maybe better to email them so that they can discuss it properly. [email protected]

See, here we are again , another deletion? What the fuck is going on @MNHQ ? The least someone can do is point out what exactly I've said that's so offensive? I'm baffled!

TheKeatingFive · 16/08/2025 17:33

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 16/08/2025 17:29

‘wonder what the next letter or character will be. It seems to be getting longer and longer.’

Probably P , N and B(e) . Possibly R?

This is why the + is so handy.

They can all slip in through the back door.

I don't know what R means. I may be better off not knowing however.

itsachickeninnit · 16/08/2025 17:32

I don’t think of gay people when I see it anymore, which is sad.

It’s been totally hijacked by the TQ+ gang and it just has cultish, aggressive, negative associations for me. My close gay family members feel the same.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 16/08/2025 17:29

‘wonder what the next letter or character will be. It seems to be getting longer and longer.’

Probably P , N and B(e) . Possibly R?