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To be sick of the royal propaganda the UK is fed?

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Ukisgaslit · 16/08/2025 10:06

I know most people don’t give a damn about the Windsors any more .

However , in a week when we learn about Philip’s affairs - notably with Sarah Ferguson’s mother ( all covered up of course like the rest of their debachery) we are now expected to swallow the line that William and Kate’s next mansion is ‘paid for by William and Kate themselves ‘

No . That’s not the complete truth .Every penny the Windsors have , they have taken from the people . We now know William and Charles make millions from public services like the NHS schools and charities . We only know about this as a result of dogged journalistic digging . And most of the mainstream media barely covered the scandal .

There are many threads here about how the UK is in steep decline and how people are suffering . Yet the royals are taking in half a billion a year and charging charities on top !

At least admit to us that all their money is stolen from us ?

Oh and if you haven’t heard the queen knew all about Andrew pocketing money via ‘pitch at the palace’

She was told repeatedly by officials . She did nothing
Can we have some facts please ?
The Windsors are a total facade - they are all like Andrew - he’s just the latest fall guy .

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daddysgirlnot · 16/08/2025 12:30

Astrak · 16/08/2025 10:42

If the anti-Royalists bothered to do any research on the British Royal Family, they would learn that they bring in approximately £52million pounds per annum in tourism and related services and cost each British tax payer approximately 77p per person per year.

France no longer have a Royal family. Doesn’t put me off visiting Versailles. Or the Marie Antoinette exhibition at the Louvres…. We don’t need them for Tourism

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Ukisgaslit · 16/08/2025 12:28

Btw governments have been managing the crown estates since George 111 handed them over ( He was bankrupt )
If you’ve been happy so far - no need to fear

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Ukisgaslit · 16/08/2025 12:27

@HostaCentral

The royals do not own the crown estate .
We do

That the Windsors ‘donate ‘ their money to us is another propaganda lie that unfortunately you have fallen for ( easily done )

If you want to learn for yourself read ‘and what do you do ‘ as listed above .

We need to start with a return to the civil list . I’m afraid the queen and Charles campaigned long and hard for the scrapping of the civil list and their wish was granted by the tories ( Cameron ans Osborne )
At least when we had the civil list we had some information about who was getting what ( the Windsors hated that )

The crown estate is a confusing term and feeds the propaganda machine - leading people to believe as you do , mistakenly .

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HostaCentral · 16/08/2025 12:22

I am by no means a royalist, but the royal family don't actually "cost" us anything. They are granted a percentage of the crown estates profits which last year was 1bn direct into the Treasury. Now, you can argue they shouldn't own those estates at all, but in reality they aren't ever sold, as they belong to "the royal state". In reality, I am ambivalent about who "owns" but actually in balance, think that it is probably for the best that the government don't own or run these, they would only fuck it up.

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Ukisgaslit · 16/08/2025 12:06

Back to propaganda

We were told Charles would slim down the monarchy . We assumed fewer parasites ( ops ‘royals’ ) , less cost to the taxpayer . The PR let that lie. Of course the full truth is , fewer royals , yet the cost more each year

Next we are told William will modernise . We assume he’ll obey the law , stop acting as a slumlord etc . The PR let that lie .
( We already know William has refused to continue the small degree of financial transparency that Charles allowed - he’s more of a throwback despot )
The truth is William is so lazy and uninterested in people that ‘modernise ‘ to him means a zoom call to open parliament - while he’s on another holiday

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Wasntmeanttobelikethis · 16/08/2025 12:05

Ukisgaslit · 16/08/2025 10:06

I know most people don’t give a damn about the Windsors any more .

However , in a week when we learn about Philip’s affairs - notably with Sarah Ferguson’s mother ( all covered up of course like the rest of their debachery) we are now expected to swallow the line that William and Kate’s next mansion is ‘paid for by William and Kate themselves ‘

No . That’s not the complete truth .Every penny the Windsors have , they have taken from the people . We now know William and Charles make millions from public services like the NHS schools and charities . We only know about this as a result of dogged journalistic digging . And most of the mainstream media barely covered the scandal .

There are many threads here about how the UK is in steep decline and how people are suffering . Yet the royals are taking in half a billion a year and charging charities on top !

At least admit to us that all their money is stolen from us ?

Oh and if you haven’t heard the queen knew all about Andrew pocketing money via ‘pitch at the palace’

She was told repeatedly by officials . She did nothing
Can we have some facts please ?
The Windsors are a total facade - they are all like Andrew - he’s just the latest fall guy .

I hear you, and agree
For me, the truth became apparent when the Harry/ M saga evolved
i realised that one had been fed a PR masterclass in manipulating public opinion about a very flawed man: let’s market an unpleasant (being polite) man as a cheeky chappie who loves doing charity work to help others
What a lie we were fed; Andrew was exposed for something very different from a dashing naval hero and attentive father
Who is next?
Let’s give the public some soft story about the most popular royals to calm the storm

LifeOfAShowGirl · 16/08/2025 12:04

poetryandwine · 16/08/2025 12:04

It might be unfair to both the Waleses to use statistics from 2024 as Kate’s surgery, from which her cancer was detected, was thought to be in late Dec 2023.

According to Town and Country Magazine, which is generally royal-friendly, here is a count of royal engagements from 2023 during the whole of which William was the Prince of Wales.

Princess Anne: 212
King Charles: 197
Prince Edward: 141
Sophie, Countess of Wessex: 114
Duke of Gloucester: 113
Prince William: 110
Queen Camilla: 101
Princess of Wales: 92

Their children were all in school by 2023 to say nothing of the fact that they have a full time nanny, or should.

QC doesn’t look great either but at least she is an OAP.

I’d agree with the elderly thing if their “work” wasn’t just dressing up nice, shaking some hands and saying hello.

poetryandwine · 16/08/2025 12:04

It might be unfair to both the Waleses to use statistics from 2024 as Kate’s surgery, from which her cancer was detected, was thought to be in late Dec 2023.

According to Town and Country Magazine, which is generally royal-friendly, here is a count of royal engagements from 2023 during the whole of which William was the Prince of Wales.

Princess Anne: 212
King Charles: 197
Prince Edward: 141
Sophie, Countess of Wessex: 114
Duke of Gloucester: 113
Prince William: 110
Queen Camilla: 101
Princess of Wales: 92

Their children were all in school by 2023 to say nothing of the fact that they have a full time nanny, or should.

QC doesn’t look great either but at least she is an OAP.

2dogsandabudgie · 16/08/2025 12:03

Tutorpuzzle · 16/08/2025 11:26

Ok then, what about Edward VIII?

Likely to have rolled out the red carpet for Hitler if he’d been able to carry on.

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The fact is we don't know what would have happened. We can all speculate and say what we think might have happened, but that's just opinions, not facts.

Tutorpuzzle · 16/08/2025 11:59

Untailored · 16/08/2025 11:53

This country will never become a republic so no point in gnashing your teeth over the Royals.

We pay for them to live in palaces, sure, but most of them seem to lead unhappy lives so it’s fair trade.

I used to think this too. But when William was able to change things so that his finances could be even more shrouded in secrecy I did wonder whether he wasn’t seeing the way the wind was blowing and start planning for his life (possibly more likely his children’s) in a Republic.

I mean, his commitment to the job is widely derided, and rightly so.

whackamole666 · 16/08/2025 11:55

Mountbatten was a kiddy fiddler? Really? Who knew?

2dogsandabudgie · 16/08/2025 11:55

Ukisgaslit · 16/08/2025 11:24

@2dogsandabudgie
You’ve fallen for the propaganda

There is always a fall guy . A distraction .

They cover up for the incumbent
But that was easier to do years ago

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Good job you're here to enlighten me then. 🙄

Untailored · 16/08/2025 11:53

This country will never become a republic so no point in gnashing your teeth over the Royals.

We pay for them to live in palaces, sure, but most of them seem to lead unhappy lives so it’s fair trade.

LifeOfAShowGirl · 16/08/2025 11:52

x2boys · 16/08/2025 11:49

Indeed ,and when he has the audacity to lecture us mere mortals about our carbon foot prints .

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Really ironic. I wasn’t a huge fan when the queen was around (sorry, sorry!) but now she’s gone I am against them entirely.

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Ukisgaslit · 16/08/2025 11:49

BatchCookBabe · 16/08/2025 11:40

They don't like to hear this though. And will deny it profusely. But yeah, the Royals do bring in quite a lot more revenue than they cost.

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Thar the royals bring in more than they cost is nonsense and was debunked years ago

Aside from that they are corrupt and are protected from the consequences of their own actions - that is wrong and is a cancer on our society

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x2boys · 16/08/2025 11:49

LifeOfAShowGirl · 16/08/2025 11:48

Convenient isn’t it? He didn’t care about that when he was off all over the place for the men’s euros.

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Indeed ,and when he has the audacity to lecture us mere mortals about our carbon foot prints .

LifeOfAShowGirl · 16/08/2025 11:48

x2boys · 16/08/2025 11:46

Yes he picks and chooses when he wants to be environmentally friendly too 🙄

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Convenient isn’t it? He didn’t care about that when he was off all over the place for the men’s euros.

x2boys · 16/08/2025 11:46

LifeOfAShowGirl · 16/08/2025 11:45

Yes I found it massively distasteful that he will pick and choose which lioness games to go to (and always taking Charlotte!), but he’s a frequent guest at Villa park with George. The final where he didn’t want to fly out to Australia and cited “environmental reasons” was a real eye opener.

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Yes he picks and chooses when he wants to be environmentally friendly too 🙄

Tutorpuzzle · 16/08/2025 11:46

BatchCookBabe · 16/08/2025 11:40

They don't like to hear this though. And will deny it profusely. But yeah, the Royals do bring in quite a lot more revenue than they cost.

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… And What Do You Do?: What The Royal Family Don't Want…

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LifeOfAShowGirl · 16/08/2025 11:45

poetryandwine · 16/08/2025 11:43

‘Not an easy time’ was an understatement.

I had a look at his official activities before commenting here. They are sparse to put it mildly.

As patron of UK football he didn’t even show up for the Lionesses, FGS. He and Kate were prominently absent from VJ Day 80th Anniversary celebrations yesterday. These are just two instances but one can go on and on and on.

Yes I found it massively distasteful that he will pick and choose which lioness games to go to (and always taking Charlotte!), but he’s a frequent guest at Villa park with George. The final where he didn’t want to fly out to Australia and cited “environmental reasons” was a real eye opener.

poetryandwine · 16/08/2025 11:43

‘Not an easy time’ was an understatement.

I had a look at his official activities before commenting here. They are sparse to put it mildly.

As patron of UK football he didn’t even show up for the Lionesses, FGS. He and Kate were prominently absent from VJ Day 80th Anniversary celebrations yesterday. These are just two instances but one can go on and on and on.

LifeOfAShowGirl · 16/08/2025 11:41

BatchCookBabe · 16/08/2025 11:40

They don't like to hear this though. And will deny it profusely. But yeah, the Royals do bring in quite a lot more revenue than they cost.

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I’ll admit it. I still don’t care. I find the entire thing abhorrent. Bring the crown estate into public ownership and open them as museums, like in France. I’m sick to death of these people pretending that going off to Wimbledon is work.

Lucyintheskywithdiamonnds · 16/08/2025 11:40

BatchCookBabe · 16/08/2025 11:36

What a load of made up nonsense you have been reading @Ukisgaslit . You can't seriously believe all this? Confused

As for your claim that most people don't care about The Windsors anymore. Speak for yourself. Many people are Royalists, and the Royal Family is here to stay. No matter how much it may irk you. Wink

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Quite 👑

BatchCookBabe · 16/08/2025 11:40

Astrak · 16/08/2025 10:42

If the anti-Royalists bothered to do any research on the British Royal Family, they would learn that they bring in approximately £52million pounds per annum in tourism and related services and cost each British tax payer approximately 77p per person per year.

They don't like to hear this though. And will deny it profusely. But yeah, the Royals do bring in quite a lot more revenue than they cost.

Lucyintheskywithdiamonnds · 16/08/2025 11:40

x2boys · 16/08/2025 11:37

Actually sorry I just realised you meant line of succession, and he has obviously not Been cut
Becsuse if you beleive in the present system than you get whst your given anyway this thread isn't about Garry aka as Harry and it's tedious when posters keep trying to make it about him.

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What?