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Portrayal of autistic people in films/TV

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AutisticHouseMove · 16/08/2025 07:39

I was diagnosed as autistic in my early 40s.

When I was younger, the only real portrayal of autism I was aware of was Rainman.

I also know there has been criticism of that because it portrayed an autistic man as a 'low functioning' savant.

Over recent years, I've noticed a prevalence of a different type of autistic person. Usually working in some kind of solitary role requiring a high level of intelligence (eg scientist), who is brilliant/the best at their job but completely lacking in empathy or social skills and getting it all wrong when they have to interact with colleagues or friends.

They're rarely identified as 'autistic' but there are hints along the way, comments from other characters about how 'weird' or 'difficult' or 'awkward' they are or how curious it is watching them trying to interact with or behave like 'the humans/earthlings'. Or other characters have to brace themselves against the tone deaf comments. Basically, either endearingly odd, a bit of a dick or both.

I don't know. It just makes me feel uncomfortable and embarrassed even when I realise this character (and they're recognisable because they're all portrayed in the same way) is supposed to represent me. Or is this really how NT people perceive many of us to be?

YABU - the portrayal of people with autism in films and TV shows is pretty much how I experience autistic people in real life

YANBU - you have a point.

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Glassmatt · 19/08/2025 14:08

SaySomethingMan · 19/08/2025 10:44

It’s a spectrum ranging from the adult with various comorbidities who has never been able to communicate verbally and still in nappies to people who’ve gone through life , married looking after children and not diagnosed until late 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, etc.
I always say this and I cannot understand how they can all have ‘autism/are autistic’. I would like to see some kind of distinction one day. I understand the different difficulties with different functions, etc but the current diagnosis criteria is not enough imo.

This is how I feel.

As the parent of a child who has an EHCP, needs 1:1 support in life, struggles enormously and will never be independent, I think the Umbrella term is useless. For a start no two individuals are the same and whilst there are levels of autism, that’s never added on. The levels are basically mild moderate and severe as to how someone is affected but if you suggest that you’re shot down. There is a such a huge difference between the two ends of the spectrum that I don’t think it should have the same name.

On the other hand I do think it’s good in other ways that it is more mainstream.

x2boys · 19/08/2025 14:04

Perzival · 19/08/2025 13:55

I agree it is an amazing series and the characters are human. I also love that they have a dark sense of humour, I think if you didn't laugh at some of the situations and things we go through as families you'd go mad.

I saw a lot of my son in Rosie and a lot of my family in the series. I wish they didnt get the chromosome dx though as many families never get that sort of closure (we have).

I'd love to see a series ten or twenty years on, looking at navigating life for or with an adult with severe needs. I'm sure if families were interviewed we could all give some stories to contribute.

Yes definitely there was a thread in the special needs section about it during the first series a lot of posters recounting their own There she goes moments with their children
I could absolutely see my son doing the stuff Rosie ,got upto!
I think the writer did say that they might consider an updated episode, if there is anything significant to update..

Perzival · 19/08/2025 13:55

x2boys · 19/08/2025 11:23

Yes she was fantastic
I also liked how they portrayed the family faults and all
The Dad drank to much they both had a dark sense of humour ( which me and my dh have) they were muddling through doing the best they could but clearly adored Rosie.

I agree it is an amazing series and the characters are human. I also love that they have a dark sense of humour, I think if you didn't laugh at some of the situations and things we go through as families you'd go mad.

I saw a lot of my son in Rosie and a lot of my family in the series. I wish they didnt get the chromosome dx though as many families never get that sort of closure (we have).

I'd love to see a series ten or twenty years on, looking at navigating life for or with an adult with severe needs. I'm sure if families were interviewed we could all give some stories to contribute.

Perzival · 19/08/2025 13:43

pinkdelight · 19/08/2025 09:15

Do you think an actor with or without severe autism should play such a role? Because I think it's probably impossible for an actor without severe autism to play that kind of role now and equally unlikely that an actor with severe autism would be up to delivering a performance to the often hellish constraints of a shooting schedule, unless that was the main factor that everything else worked around. There are some initiatives for disabled filmmakers which help with representation - the Oskar Bright Foundation runs a festival for work for/by filmmakers with learning disabilities and autism, and some production co's who specialise in that field (104 Films springs to mind), but I think it's a big ask to do what you're suggesting in mainstream drama production even if there was a drama where that character had a major role. Not saying you shouldn't ask for it, and maybe with the right will/funding/connections it could happen, but it's hard to get anything made at the moment beyond cheap cosy crime and schlocky thrillers, so it'd take some heavyweight backing and the right actor and story for it to become a reality. I'm more hopeful for the democratisation of media to mean wider, better representation comes from YouTube and SM, with people making their own work, than for the monolith of major broadcasters who are mostly there to say no and make what's already been done but slightly differently.

Someone with profound/severe autism wouldn't be able to 'act'.

Locutus2000 · 19/08/2025 13:41

I've been enjoying 'Dexter: Resurrection' but the heavily autistic-coded detective feels very outdated.

Avantiagain · 19/08/2025 12:38

Rosie in There she goes is the only character that has come close to portraying someone like my son.

The A word character was nothing like him.

OneNeatBlueOrca · 19/08/2025 11:55

jensondolally · 19/08/2025 11:32

It’s not uncommon for threads about autism to get heated because of this. I’ve seen posters with autism get angry when people suggest that those with profound disabilities due to their autism are different to those who are “high functioning”. I don’t think im explaining this very well, so my apologies, but I’ve seen a lot of posts that claim there is no such thing as HF autism, just autism. But there is clearly a huge difference between someone who is non-verbal and require support with all care needs, and those who have independent lives, careers, relationships etc.

There is a mother in the US campaigning for this. She's sick of the level ones and self diagnosed hijacking the label autism and talking of masking which is a privilege her son doesnt have. He cant mask and she said if you can you're privileged.

Edit ... it wont post the link to her page.

x2boys · 19/08/2025 11:39

jensondolally · 19/08/2025 11:32

It’s not uncommon for threads about autism to get heated because of this. I’ve seen posters with autism get angry when people suggest that those with profound disabilities due to their autism are different to those who are “high functioning”. I don’t think im explaining this very well, so my apologies, but I’ve seen a lot of posts that claim there is no such thing as HF autism, just autism. But there is clearly a huge difference between someone who is non-verbal and require support with all care needs, and those who have independent lives, careers, relationships etc.

There is and society recognises this but having said that
Even people with so called high functioning autism can have high care needs
I can think of at least two young adults who whilst academically able are not able to really care for themselves it's such a broad spectrum.

jensondolally · 19/08/2025 11:32

SaySomethingMan · 19/08/2025 10:44

It’s a spectrum ranging from the adult with various comorbidities who has never been able to communicate verbally and still in nappies to people who’ve gone through life , married looking after children and not diagnosed until late 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, etc.
I always say this and I cannot understand how they can all have ‘autism/are autistic’. I would like to see some kind of distinction one day. I understand the different difficulties with different functions, etc but the current diagnosis criteria is not enough imo.

It’s not uncommon for threads about autism to get heated because of this. I’ve seen posters with autism get angry when people suggest that those with profound disabilities due to their autism are different to those who are “high functioning”. I don’t think im explaining this very well, so my apologies, but I’ve seen a lot of posts that claim there is no such thing as HF autism, just autism. But there is clearly a huge difference between someone who is non-verbal and require support with all care needs, and those who have independent lives, careers, relationships etc.

x2boys · 19/08/2025 11:23

RainbowZebraWarrior · 19/08/2025 11:14

The family confirmed that Joey (Rosie) did have learning disabilities and autism related to her eventual DYRK1A syndrome diagnosis. They did quite a lot of interviews when the programme first aired.

I also agree the actor who played 'Rosie' was incredible.

Yes she was fantastic
I also liked how they portrayed the family faults and all
The Dad drank to much they both had a dark sense of humour ( which me and my dh have) they were muddling through doing the best they could but clearly adored Rosie.

RainbowZebraWarrior · 19/08/2025 11:14

x2boys · 19/08/2025 11:07

My son also has a rare chromosome disorder, it's believed to be the underlying cause of his autism and learning disabilities
I'm.not sure wether the ever said Rosie was autistic but she certainly presented a lot like my son.

The family confirmed that Joey (Rosie) did have learning disabilities and autism related to her eventual DYRK1A syndrome diagnosis. They did quite a lot of interviews when the programme first aired.

I also agree the actor who played 'Rosie' was incredible.

x2boys · 19/08/2025 11:07

Whatafustercluck · 19/08/2025 10:52

I know what you're saying and Rosie definitely reminded me of my dd when she was having a mental health breakdown 2 years ago due to undiagnosed autism (she was 6). Rosie isn't autistic though, she has a chromosome abnormality I think? And dd now is a far cry from Rosie these days, appreciating that dd has 'high functioning' (sorry) autism, and that many are much more severely affected.

The actress who plays Rosie is absolutely superb.

My son also has a rare chromosome disorder, it's believed to be the underlying cause of his autism and learning disabilities
I'm.not sure wether the ever said Rosie was autistic but she certainly presented a lot like my son.

Whatafustercluck · 19/08/2025 10:52

x2boys · 19/08/2025 09:21

Watch There she goes on BBC I player the actress who played Rosie isn't disabled ,but she was brilliant in portraying someone with profound disabilities IMO as the parent of a severely autistic teenager, I thought she got it spot on .

I know what you're saying and Rosie definitely reminded me of my dd when she was having a mental health breakdown 2 years ago due to undiagnosed autism (she was 6). Rosie isn't autistic though, she has a chromosome abnormality I think? And dd now is a far cry from Rosie these days, appreciating that dd has 'high functioning' (sorry) autism, and that many are much more severely affected.

The actress who plays Rosie is absolutely superb.

Whatafustercluck · 19/08/2025 10:46

I'm not sure I agree. I think there's quite a lot of variety in how autistic people are now portrayed in TV series and it's come a long way. Atypical, Parenthood and Geek Girl are good examples. I still think that most focus on the portrayal of experiences of autistic men/ boys though - which is why I liked Geek Girl (I could see so much of my daughter in the lead character). I've not seen Patience, so don't know how that character plays out.

SaySomethingMan · 19/08/2025 10:44

It’s a spectrum ranging from the adult with various comorbidities who has never been able to communicate verbally and still in nappies to people who’ve gone through life , married looking after children and not diagnosed until late 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, etc.
I always say this and I cannot understand how they can all have ‘autism/are autistic’. I would like to see some kind of distinction one day. I understand the different difficulties with different functions, etc but the current diagnosis criteria is not enough imo.

purpleme12 · 19/08/2025 10:39

Vladandnikki · 16/08/2025 08:10

Dinosaur on BBC is great. Written and starring Ashley Stories who is herself autistic. Second series is due out this autumn first series is on iPlayer.

Was just going to mention this!

I loved Dinosaur!

nameoftheday · 19/08/2025 10:30

What about ITV’s ‘The Assembly’ with actual real autistic (and other) people?

pinkdelight · 19/08/2025 09:38

x2boys · 19/08/2025 09:21

Watch There she goes on BBC I player the actress who played Rosie isn't disabled ,but she was brilliant in portraying someone with profound disabilities IMO as the parent of a severely autistic teenager, I thought she got it spot on .

That's kind of an example of what I mean, in that it's by an established 'name' in the industry with the clout to get it made and to get all those other names on board too, and was about his own experiences with his daughter to make it okay and authentic. In those circumstances, he can negotiate the system and it's okay to have Miley play Rosie in those circumstances - and she had to as it was determined a learning disabled actor wouldn't have coped with the schedule. Those are rare circumstances and the story has to come from the people with experience of the disability, of whom there aren't nearly enough in the industry. Like you, I hope there's more, and that audiences show up if/when it happens. Guess I'm just jaded by the industry which is in a terrible state at the moment, but as you say, these things can happen once in a blue moon so here's hoping...

x2boys · 19/08/2025 09:21

pinkdelight · 19/08/2025 09:15

Do you think an actor with or without severe autism should play such a role? Because I think it's probably impossible for an actor without severe autism to play that kind of role now and equally unlikely that an actor with severe autism would be up to delivering a performance to the often hellish constraints of a shooting schedule, unless that was the main factor that everything else worked around. There are some initiatives for disabled filmmakers which help with representation - the Oskar Bright Foundation runs a festival for work for/by filmmakers with learning disabilities and autism, and some production co's who specialise in that field (104 Films springs to mind), but I think it's a big ask to do what you're suggesting in mainstream drama production even if there was a drama where that character had a major role. Not saying you shouldn't ask for it, and maybe with the right will/funding/connections it could happen, but it's hard to get anything made at the moment beyond cheap cosy crime and schlocky thrillers, so it'd take some heavyweight backing and the right actor and story for it to become a reality. I'm more hopeful for the democratisation of media to mean wider, better representation comes from YouTube and SM, with people making their own work, than for the monolith of major broadcasters who are mostly there to say no and make what's already been done but slightly differently.

Watch There she goes on BBC I player the actress who played Rosie isn't disabled ,but she was brilliant in portraying someone with profound disabilities IMO as the parent of a severely autistic teenager, I thought she got it spot on .

pinkdelight · 19/08/2025 09:15

Perzival · 18/08/2025 21:11

I'd like to see more representation of those with severe/ profound/ low functioning autism. Since there she goes (i think it came out on the last episode that she had something else dx) i can't think of any and no adult representation (Rainman didn't have autism - Kim peake had fg syndrome).

I'd quite like to see a character who uses pecs/aac for very basic coms, who flaps and stims, verbalises, requires constant supervision possibly even 2:1 support etc

Do you think an actor with or without severe autism should play such a role? Because I think it's probably impossible for an actor without severe autism to play that kind of role now and equally unlikely that an actor with severe autism would be up to delivering a performance to the often hellish constraints of a shooting schedule, unless that was the main factor that everything else worked around. There are some initiatives for disabled filmmakers which help with representation - the Oskar Bright Foundation runs a festival for work for/by filmmakers with learning disabilities and autism, and some production co's who specialise in that field (104 Films springs to mind), but I think it's a big ask to do what you're suggesting in mainstream drama production even if there was a drama where that character had a major role. Not saying you shouldn't ask for it, and maybe with the right will/funding/connections it could happen, but it's hard to get anything made at the moment beyond cheap cosy crime and schlocky thrillers, so it'd take some heavyweight backing and the right actor and story for it to become a reality. I'm more hopeful for the democratisation of media to mean wider, better representation comes from YouTube and SM, with people making their own work, than for the monolith of major broadcasters who are mostly there to say no and make what's already been done but slightly differently.

x2boys · 19/08/2025 09:07

ntmdino · 19/08/2025 08:57

I honestly don't think there's a writer out there capable of doing it without the character becoming more of a prop or plot device than an actual character, though.

I mean...look at Music. The film is named for the autistic character, and yet she has no motivation or agency, and exists purely to move the plot along for the sake of her sister's character arc (such as it is).

There she goes,was fabulous and Rosie was the main character, the writer based it on his own daughter who has profound disabilities.

Hiptothisjive · 19/08/2025 08:58

The Good Doctor and Sheldon Cooper are good examples.

ntmdino · 19/08/2025 08:57

Perzival · 18/08/2025 21:11

I'd like to see more representation of those with severe/ profound/ low functioning autism. Since there she goes (i think it came out on the last episode that she had something else dx) i can't think of any and no adult representation (Rainman didn't have autism - Kim peake had fg syndrome).

I'd quite like to see a character who uses pecs/aac for very basic coms, who flaps and stims, verbalises, requires constant supervision possibly even 2:1 support etc

I honestly don't think there's a writer out there capable of doing it without the character becoming more of a prop or plot device than an actual character, though.

I mean...look at Music. The film is named for the autistic character, and yet she has no motivation or agency, and exists purely to move the plot along for the sake of her sister's character arc (such as it is).

WeylandYutani · 18/08/2025 22:55

ntmdino · 18/08/2025 20:14

It's quite telling, I think, that in a time when the only maybe-representation of autism was Rain Man...we all picked Data instead (I know a lot of people my age who did).

I feel better for knowing more people related to Data.

DontbesorrybeGiles · 18/08/2025 22:53

I find sometimes characters become “more autistic” as a series goes on, likely because audiences have found their quirks intriguing and so the writers go too far and Flanderize them. I felt like that happened with Saga in The Bridge.

I’m autistic, diagnosed at 41 and I don’t feel represented on TV or in films. Probably because I’d be quite boring to watch. Whereas someone like Sheldon cooper is quite entertaining to watch.

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