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Portrayal of autistic people in films/TV

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AutisticHouseMove · 16/08/2025 07:39

I was diagnosed as autistic in my early 40s.

When I was younger, the only real portrayal of autism I was aware of was Rainman.

I also know there has been criticism of that because it portrayed an autistic man as a 'low functioning' savant.

Over recent years, I've noticed a prevalence of a different type of autistic person. Usually working in some kind of solitary role requiring a high level of intelligence (eg scientist), who is brilliant/the best at their job but completely lacking in empathy or social skills and getting it all wrong when they have to interact with colleagues or friends.

They're rarely identified as 'autistic' but there are hints along the way, comments from other characters about how 'weird' or 'difficult' or 'awkward' they are or how curious it is watching them trying to interact with or behave like 'the humans/earthlings'. Or other characters have to brace themselves against the tone deaf comments. Basically, either endearingly odd, a bit of a dick or both.

I don't know. It just makes me feel uncomfortable and embarrassed even when I realise this character (and they're recognisable because they're all portrayed in the same way) is supposed to represent me. Or is this really how NT people perceive many of us to be?

YABU - the portrayal of people with autism in films and TV shows is pretty much how I experience autistic people in real life

YANBU - you have a point.

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WeylandYutani · 19/08/2025 22:16

Oh I saw a lot of notifications for his thread and thought it would be about TV etc. Instead it is people arguing about the spectrum. Can that be another thread?

jensondolally · 19/08/2025 21:57

SnowdropWhite · 19/08/2025 21:46

I’m autistic. The idea that my autism is in anyway comparable to that of someone with profound autism is ridiculous.

Yes, support needs can fluctuate but not to the extent that I’m suddenly going to require 24/7 care.

It doesn’t invalidate my struggles to acknowledge that others have it harder.

Some of the posts on here are just bizarre, I don’t understand what people are trying to achieve.
They seem to be saying that they are being told they aren’t autistic, when no one is saying that.
i absolutely think that there needs to be different categories within the autism diagnosis.

Glassmatt · 19/08/2025 21:53

ntmdino · 19/08/2025 21:36

Incorrect on almost all your points, but thanks for playing.

Yea, I’m sure I’m wrong…..

Why are you so keen to be seem to have the same level of need as a child who can’t speak for example or an adult who needs 1:1 support?

Why do you seem to get outraged at the thought some people with say level 3 autism have more severe needs that those with level 1?

Why does that upset you? It’s obviously true or there wouldn’t be a further classification described as levels….. the difference is significant so what’s the big kick off saying no no it’s the same when clearly it’s absolutely not.

I suspect the names will be altered at some point to distinguish the difference.

Perzival · 19/08/2025 21:51

ntmdino · 19/08/2025 21:35

Then they should try describing their situation without implying (or outright stating) that folk who are able to communicate and/or survive after a fashion aren't autistic.

These are the people I'm talking about:

  • "I always say this and I cannot understand how they can all have ‘autism/are autistic’" (note that "cannot" usually means "will not")
  • "There is a such a huge difference between the two ends of the spectrum that I don’t think it should have the same name."

That's not "describing their situation". That's redefining mine in order to validate their own (or, much more commonly, their child's).

Just to add I've never said that people who communicate don't have autism (i don't use autistic).

Your posts have aimed at fair bit of anger at me which I don't think is appropriate.

Perzival · 19/08/2025 21:49

ntmdino · 19/08/2025 21:35

Then they should try describing their situation without implying (or outright stating) that folk who are able to communicate and/or survive after a fashion aren't autistic.

These are the people I'm talking about:

  • "I always say this and I cannot understand how they can all have ‘autism/are autistic’" (note that "cannot" usually means "will not")
  • "There is a such a huge difference between the two ends of the spectrum that I don’t think it should have the same name."

That's not "describing their situation". That's redefining mine in order to validate their own (or, much more commonly, their child's).

I dont say the first point but I do say a version of the second.

The second isnt invalidating your dx it's stating something really obvious. Autism presentations are vastly different and it would be incredibly helpful to be able to say "my ds has whatever dx" and the person I'm talking to know how he presents. I'm a big advocate for using profound autism, it keeps you dx the same but changes my son's.

In terms of having to speak for my son there is an obvious reason for this.

SnowdropWhite · 19/08/2025 21:46

I’m autistic. The idea that my autism is in anyway comparable to that of someone with profound autism is ridiculous.

Yes, support needs can fluctuate but not to the extent that I’m suddenly going to require 24/7 care.

It doesn’t invalidate my struggles to acknowledge that others have it harder.

museumum · 19/08/2025 21:38

Vladandnikki · 16/08/2025 08:10

Dinosaur on BBC is great. Written and starring Ashley Stories who is herself autistic. Second series is due out this autumn first series is on iPlayer.

I was going to say this. You might not like it but it is genuinely written by an autistic woman.

ntmdino · 19/08/2025 21:36

Glassmatt · 19/08/2025 21:04

Let me guess, diagnosed privately in 30’s, have a relationship and children, hold down a job and don’t need any outside support from another adult? Well lucky you.

Meanwhile, those who have children who can’t read, write or follow 2 step instructions (so need an EHCP) and are likely to need adult support forever (due to the severity of their disability because they can’t do anything for themselves
and will never be independent) should see it all as equal needs? The spectrum is so vast that it may as well have different names to distinguish between the two ends of it because they are absolutely like night and day.

Incorrect on almost all your points, but thanks for playing.

ntmdino · 19/08/2025 21:35

Perzival · 19/08/2025 21:00

I'm glad youre validated and don't need others to do that for you.

Unfortunately you can't dictate that others meet your needs by not describing their situation.

Profound autism doesnt invalidate your diagnosis, it clarifies theirs.

Being ignorant of others also includes those who perpetuate that others can't be impacted more by their autism than somebody else. The fact that some people are profoundly impacted doesnt invalidate your dx at all it just means your not as impacted as an non communicative adult, who can't do anything for themselves, likely has sibs, vocalises etc especially when you're able to argue on sm.

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Then they should try describing their situation without implying (or outright stating) that folk who are able to communicate and/or survive after a fashion aren't autistic.

These are the people I'm talking about:

  • "I always say this and I cannot understand how they can all have ‘autism/are autistic’" (note that "cannot" usually means "will not")
  • "There is a such a huge difference between the two ends of the spectrum that I don’t think it should have the same name."

That's not "describing their situation". That's redefining mine in order to validate their own (or, much more commonly, their child's).

Trsnsn353 · 19/08/2025 21:10

Glassmatt · 19/08/2025 21:04

Let me guess, diagnosed privately in 30’s, have a relationship and children, hold down a job and don’t need any outside support from another adult? Well lucky you.

Meanwhile, those who have children who can’t read, write or follow 2 step instructions (so need an EHCP) and are likely to need adult support forever (due to the severity of their disability because they can’t do anything for themselves
and will never be independent) should see it all as equal needs? The spectrum is so vast that it may as well have different names to distinguish between the two ends of it because they are absolutely like night and day.

I beg your pardon. Those diagnosed in their 30s will have had a lifetime of struggle alone! My family is fortunate enough to be NHS diagnosed but can feel empathy for those unable to access the ridiculous long lists. Ditto EHCPs. Anybody with an autism diagnosis will have a severely impacted life and are in no way lucky.

Glassmatt · 19/08/2025 21:04

ntmdino · 19/08/2025 17:32

FFS, there's always a couple...the old "two ends of the spectrum" thing never gets old, does it? No matter how many times it's explained that's not what the "spectrum" in "spectrum condition" has ever meant, it's doggedly stuck to.

Let me guess, diagnosed privately in 30’s, have a relationship and children, hold down a job and don’t need any outside support from another adult? Well lucky you.

Meanwhile, those who have children who can’t read, write or follow 2 step instructions (so need an EHCP) and are likely to need adult support forever (due to the severity of their disability because they can’t do anything for themselves
and will never be independent) should see it all as equal needs? The spectrum is so vast that it may as well have different names to distinguish between the two ends of it because they are absolutely like night and day.

Perzival · 19/08/2025 21:01

Trsnsn353 · 19/08/2025 20:56

But not part of the diagnosis process. You may have the skills but be unable to use them to communicate.

This is getting tedious and I have no intention of going round in circles all night.

By having those skills they're already not as severly impacted.

Perzival · 19/08/2025 21:00

ntmdino · 19/08/2025 20:50

I already have all the validation I need for a lifetime of intense struggle - my diagnosis, as assessed by actual experts. In that context, the validation of the uneducated is neither required nor relevant.

What I do require is for those others to stop seeking to invalidate my diagnosis, and others', through their ignorance.

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I'm glad youre validated and don't need others to do that for you.

Unfortunately you can't dictate that others meet your needs by not describing their situation.

Profound autism doesnt invalidate your diagnosis, it clarifies theirs.

Being ignorant of others also includes those who perpetuate that others can't be impacted more by their autism than somebody else. The fact that some people are profoundly impacted doesnt invalidate your dx at all it just means your not as impacted as an non communicative adult, who can't do anything for themselves, likely has sibs, vocalises etc especially when you're able to argue on sm.

Trsnsn353 · 19/08/2025 20:56

Perzival · 19/08/2025 20:51

Being able to speak, read and write but not communicate? Speaking, reading and writing are modes of communication by definition.

But not part of the diagnosis process. You may have the skills but be unable to use them to communicate.

This is getting tedious and I have no intention of going round in circles all night.

Trsnsn353 · 19/08/2025 20:51

ntmdino · 19/08/2025 20:50

I already have all the validation I need for a lifetime of intense struggle - my diagnosis, as assessed by actual experts. In that context, the validation of the uneducated is neither required nor relevant.

What I do require is for those others to stop seeking to invalidate my diagnosis, and others', through their ignorance.

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This!

Perzival · 19/08/2025 20:51

Trsnsn353 · 19/08/2025 20:46

You absolutely can’t dictate that- as we’ve said the ability to read and write has nothing to do with autism diagnosis.

Many can speak and read and write. It does not mean they use those tools
to communicate.

Being able to speak, read and write but not communicate? Speaking, reading and writing are modes of communication by definition.

ntmdino · 19/08/2025 20:50

Perzival · 19/08/2025 20:26

Why do you need validating by others.

I ask this in ernest. Why is it so offensive that there are people who are severly impacted by autism? Why is it distasteful or invalidating?

Your lack of compassion for that 'subset' speaks volumes.

I already have all the validation I need for a lifetime of intense struggle - my diagnosis, as assessed by actual experts. In that context, the validation of the uneducated is neither required nor relevant.

What I do require is for those others to stop seeking to invalidate my diagnosis, and others', through their ignorance.

Trsnsn353 · 19/08/2025 20:49

Perzival · 19/08/2025 20:48

So again you believe that someone who can't speak, read and write can have more severe autism than someone who can't.

I'm aware of different forms of communication such as objects of reference which is used with pre verbal people (verbal in the definition of being able to use words not speak via voice).

Nope

Perzival · 19/08/2025 20:48

Trsnsn353 · 19/08/2025 20:42

There are many ways of communicating and for some they may be able to read and write or speak but still can’t communicate hence reading and writing not being part of the diagnosis. Some people can speak but don’t.

So again you believe that someone who can't speak, read and write can have more severe autism than someone who can't.

I'm aware of different forms of communication such as objects of reference which is used with pre verbal people (verbal in the definition of being able to use words not speak via voice).

Trsnsn353 · 19/08/2025 20:47

Perzival · 19/08/2025 20:45

It wasn't that hard for my son he was diagnosed at two after a wait because it was so clear.

You may want to check out profound autism and it's descriptors. They're quantifiable.

Well the diagnosis process was very male dominant and many many women and girls were sidelined .

PoshDuckQuarkQuark · 19/08/2025 20:46

As an autistic (undiagnosed) person in their mid 40s I love Bones.

I think it's brilliant the way they show everyone else not giving a sh*t how she is "weird", "difficult" or "awkward". It's just her, the way her brain works makes her brilliant at what she does and they respect her for it.

I am well aware I can be awkward and weird, but thats why I have friends who are ok with that and love me for being me! A bit bonkers who often lacks filters and asks things i want to know that others won't ask. People role their eyes at me for asking yet all await the answer as they want to know 😂

Trsnsn353 · 19/08/2025 20:46

Perzival · 19/08/2025 20:43

Well no, not everyone does get a bespoke dx, if only! Not everyone is impacted to the same severity and not constantly.

There isn't a world where someone whois able to communicate using speaking, reading and writing is more severe or as severe as my son. The premise is laughable.

You absolutely can’t dictate that- as we’ve said the ability to read and write has nothing to do with autism diagnosis.

Many can speak and read and write. It does not mean they use those tools
to communicate.

Perzival · 19/08/2025 20:45

Trsnsn353 · 19/08/2025 20:40

A totally insulting post and incorrect. It’s impossible to split or compartmentalise autism. It’s nigh on impossible to get a diagnosis as it is on the NHS, hours of wrangling back and forth amongst professionals with challenges by families to incorrect categorisation is never going to happen.

It wasn't that hard for my son he was diagnosed at two after a wait because it was so clear.

You may want to check out profound autism and it's descriptors. They're quantifiable.

Perzival · 19/08/2025 20:43

Trsnsn353 · 19/08/2025 20:36

Everybody with an autism diagnosis has a severe impact on their life, every second of every day. It never leaves and is impossible to quantify as everybody has a bespoke diagnosis across several traits.

Well no, not everyone does get a bespoke dx, if only! Not everyone is impacted to the same severity and not constantly.

There isn't a world where someone whois able to communicate using speaking, reading and writing is more severe or as severe as my son. The premise is laughable.

Trsnsn353 · 19/08/2025 20:42

Perzival · 19/08/2025 20:40

Yet it's you that keeps raising the dsm not me? I put the visual up to show the change in the dx and the descriptors of levels.

Communication is a huge part of autism being able to speak, read and write are some pretty useful skills.

There are many ways of communicating and for some they may be able to read and write or speak but still can’t communicate hence reading and writing not being part of the diagnosis. Some people can speak but don’t.