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Do you think this is racist?

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Helpmechooseausername · 15/08/2025 21:34

I was on holiday and had developed quite a good tan (I'm white). I said to someone "if I stayed here for another few weeks I'd be the colour of chocolate" and they said I was being racist. They said that I was saying that someone who is black (I hope that is an acceptable term) is the colour of chocolate and that is offensive.

It's totally stumped me! I was referring to myself, not anyone else, regardless of their colour. I genuinely think I'm not offensive to anyone - I certainly don't try to be - but it makes me feel like this is a very narrow tightrope I'm on!

AIBU to think that what I said was ok, or do I need to rethink this?

Thanks!

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TempestTost · 15/08/2025 22:39

amillionandone · 15/08/2025 22:13

It was a silly exaggeration, but not racist. Anyway, while I wouldn't presume to do so, I've known some black people who at least used to use the word 'chocolate' in connection with 'blackness', themselves. It was clearly meant in a positive way when they did so. I am surprised it is now considered offensive, but then again, everyone is eager to find offence these days.

Edited

It was kind of a running joke on The Steve Harvey Show that his roommate, (Cyril the entertainer who is fairly dark skinned for an American black man) often described himself as one of the "deep chocolate brothers."

My dp also uses it to describe himself sometimes, but I have noticed it makes some mc white people quite uncomfortable, they don't know what to do with it.

Lmnop22 · 15/08/2025 22:38

Race didn’t come into the discussion at all. You said your own skin would become the colour of an item which is the colour you were referring to (chocolate).

This is analogous to saying I hope I don’t burn and become the colour of a tomato or I was as white as a sheet before I landed in Portugal or whatever!

People making any reference to a change in skin colour into a race issue are the problem here, not you!

PistachioTiramisuLimoncello · 15/08/2025 22:37

Helpmechooseausername · 15/08/2025 21:56

Thanks. It wouldn't have even occurred to me that I was being racist, but it's made me question myself.

The person who said I was racist (my DD - but her siblings agreed with her!) is a teenager and said that if someone had said that at school it would be massively frowned on. Maybe it's a generational thing?

Oh god! Don’t listen to teenagers they are all permanently accusing everyone of everything. You’re fine op.

BCBird · 15/08/2025 22:34

Nope. Not racist.-Opinion.of a black.woman. World has gone mad

AtTheBar · 15/08/2025 22:31

This is just another one of those ‘is it racist’ threads that usually attracts racists/racist apologists. Always the same time of night, always similar sort of question.

Kindling1970 · 15/08/2025 22:24

I’m black (this term is ok!) and don’t find this racist. Trust me, I’ve heard worse.

Dangermoo · 15/08/2025 22:20

JH0404 · 15/08/2025 22:19

No, this also gives me the ick 🤣

Fair enough - at least you're not trying to make it into something it's not.

JH0404 · 15/08/2025 22:19

Dangermoo · 15/08/2025 22:12

Does being as white, as white chocolate sit right with you? I bet it does.

No, this also gives me the ick 🤣

Dangermoo · 15/08/2025 22:18

rolloverbeethoven · 15/08/2025 22:16

I honestly think the word racism has lost all meaning.

So do I. Yet, apparently gammon isn't racist. So if it's racist to say black skin equals chocolate, why isn't it racist to say white skin equals gammon. The goal posts move for those who look for racism when it's not present - this is a classic case.

rolloverbeethoven · 15/08/2025 22:16

I honestly think the word racism has lost all meaning.

Dangermoo · 15/08/2025 22:16

Helpmechooseausername · 15/08/2025 21:56

Thanks. It wouldn't have even occurred to me that I was being racist, but it's made me question myself.

The person who said I was racist (my DD - but her siblings agreed with her!) is a teenager and said that if someone had said that at school it would be massively frowned on. Maybe it's a generational thing?

You're meant to question yourself, which is why you shouldn't give it a second thought. It's got to the point of ridiculous now, where you have to be careful what analogy you use, when talking about colours!

AMurderofMurderingCrows · 15/08/2025 22:16

So is the phrase 'if she/he was chocolate they'd eat themselves' racist? Or is it just a way of describing someone?

beemamare · 15/08/2025 22:16

I'm black, and don't find this racist one bit.

I am Caribbean and am pale (for a black person) in the summer and go ridiculously dark even with sun cream on the summer. My Nigerian friend joked I'd be able to pass as Nigerian if I tanned any more, to which our white friend who was sun burnt said she identified as ketchup. So clearly comparing to food things isn't too uncommon! I wouldn't worry about it.

Helpmechooseausername · 15/08/2025 22:15

BallerinaRadio · 15/08/2025 22:06

Saying you'd be the colour of chocolate is a super weird thing to say... Did you mean milk chocolate or dark chocolate? I've heard people say varnish in that context before but chocolate is just... Odd

I didn't think that much, I thought I was just saying that I'd be brown! Chocolate comes in all sorts of shades of brown and it's all lovely 😂

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BalalaikaBalaclavaBaklava · 15/08/2025 22:14

I think you're right that it's a generational thing. It's definitely not racist and I say that as a person of colour.

My year 7 child's friend was being called racist by his mates because he said to a girl at school that her friend was always making her do what she wanted to do & do things first her and treating her like a slave. The girl he said that to was mixed race. Cue everyone saying he's racist, you can't use the S word (!) in convo with a black person.

Whilst trying to explain to my DC that that wasn't racist, he just rolled his eyes at me like I was some racist 80 year old who doesn't know she's also racist!!

Helpmechooseausername · 15/08/2025 22:13

TheTwitcher11 · 15/08/2025 21:58

It’s just weird because you wouldn’t 🤣🤣

What? Be the colour of chocolate? Some people's skin is the colour of some chocolate!

I went on to say (admittedly I was a bit flustered by then!) that I started off being the colour of raw sausages and I'd rather be the colour of chocolate than that!! 😂

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Dangermoo · 15/08/2025 22:13

Mercurial123 · 15/08/2025 21:59

Is it?!

You're making the comment mean something it's not.

amillionandone · 15/08/2025 22:13

It was a silly exaggeration, but not racist. Anyway, while I wouldn't presume to do so, I've known some black people who at least used to use the word 'chocolate' in connection with 'blackness', themselves. It was clearly meant in a positive way when they did so. I am surprised it is now considered offensive, but then again, everyone is eager to find offence these days.

Dangermoo · 15/08/2025 22:12

JH0404 · 15/08/2025 21:45

In my opinion no….. but just doesn’t sit right

Does being as white, as white chocolate sit right with you? I bet it does.

Dangermoo · 15/08/2025 22:11

You will get plenty on here telling you it was racist. Chocolate is brown or white - fact.

Helpmechooseausername · 15/08/2025 22:11

BallerinaRadio · 15/08/2025 22:06

Saying you'd be the colour of chocolate is a super weird thing to say... Did you mean milk chocolate or dark chocolate? I've heard people say varnish in that context before but chocolate is just... Odd

I dunno! I guess it was the first thing that came to mind that was very brown!

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BallerinaRadio · 15/08/2025 22:06

Saying you'd be the colour of chocolate is a super weird thing to say... Did you mean milk chocolate or dark chocolate? I've heard people say varnish in that context before but chocolate is just... Odd

Panterusblackish · 15/08/2025 22:03

No of course it's not racist to compare your own skin tone to an inanimate object.

Next time your teenagers try and police your speech with totally unfounded allegations just tell them they're behaving like fascists.

Mercurial123 · 15/08/2025 21:59

Sometimeswinning · 15/08/2025 21:58

I think you’ve missed the point here! Whole other thread.

Is it?!

Sometimeswinning · 15/08/2025 21:58

Mercurial123 · 15/08/2025 21:46

A white person being tanned is seen as desirable whilst someone who is naturally darker skinned probably encounters racism quite frequently.

I think you’ve missed the point here! Whole other thread.

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