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To think that the USA is a dictatorship now?

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spoonbillstretford · 15/08/2025 20:24

Trump appears to have ultimate power. Who can challenge him? Who controls him? Presidents should not be dictating what drug companies charge for medicines on a whim, or indeed any other goods, at the drop of a hat. He says jump and the US says "How High?" What on earth have you done to yourselves and the world to let this evil, thick, orange toddler clown represent you? What the hell were you thinking?

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ElCorazon · 16/08/2025 12:22

StandFirm · 16/08/2025 12:18

you just don't like what I have to say - all facts though.

And you just don’t like that people voted for Trump and he is the president.
Tough luck.

StandFirm · 16/08/2025 12:18

ElCorazon · 16/08/2025 12:14

Did you just ask AI and copied the answer here? 🙄

you just don't like what I have to say - all facts though.

ElCorazon · 16/08/2025 12:14

StandFirm · 16/08/2025 11:28

You are saying you are not a US citizen. It also sounds like you are genuinely ill-informed on the impact of the Trump administration on the less well-off. His Big Beautiful Bill which was recently passed amounts to a tax cut for the top 1% and will negatively impact everyone else. It will also exclude from Medicaid/Medicare 15 to 20 million (depending on estimates) poor Americans who otherwise can't access healthcare. As for the Latina nannies etc, they're sent to fucking 'alligator alcatraz', sometimes abducted from playgrounds whilst looking after toddlers! Who in their right mind votes for such cruelty against ordinary working people?? And wait until the impact of the tariffs is felt in the Autumn. So far, it's just been chaos but they WILL bite, and soon. So many small business owners are already completely screwed because they don't have access to the right manufacturing infrastructure in the US. That can't be built at scale overnight. They have had to outsource to factories in China for the past decades- all of a sudden, they can't absorb the costs of importing their products for sale in the US. So a lot of them are already going bankrupt because they're hit with ridiculous customs bills. And what about the consumers? They are already feeling the pinch. Tariffs are an IMPORT TAX. A TAX. From a man who supposedly claims to put more $$ in American pockets. However, in the real world, all that's happening now is that the cost of pretty much everything is going up. Some big companies like Amazon have the capacity to absorb some of those costs (as mandated by DJT who went after Bezos when he suggested transparency on price increases caused by tariffs). Most independent businesses cannot. So, this is killing a whole swath of US entrepreneurs/ SMEs and causing hardship for American workers.
Such bullshit!

Did you just ask AI and copied the answer here? 🙄

LakieLady · 16/08/2025 11:37

VaseofViolets · 15/08/2025 23:18

And how many people voted for Starmer?

Oh yes… 33%.

He got close to 50% of the vote in his constituency, and no-one outside of that constituency voted for him, because we have a parliamentary system and not a presidential one.

There are many Labour voters who voted Labour despite not supporting Starmer, who is regarded by many, in the party as the most right wing leader Labour have ever had.

StandFirm · 16/08/2025 11:28

ElCorazon · 16/08/2025 10:39

If I was an American citizen I would have voted for Trump 😑

Who is anti Trump? The woke idiots. The well -to-do middle classes who are afraid that their cheap illegal migrant latina housekeeper will be deported and they will have to hire someone with an actual green card or American citizenship and have to pay her higher wages.

The Hollywood elite is also anti Trump because they don’t live in the real, ordinary world. They don’t experience homelessness, job loss, financial problems, street crime etc. They are barricaded in their multimillion-dollar villas and wash their bums in jewel-encrusted gold bidets.
University students are also anti Trump because what do they know? They are still in the education system that is heavily focused on brainwashing young minds into little woke drones.

You are saying you are not a US citizen. It also sounds like you are genuinely ill-informed on the impact of the Trump administration on the less well-off. His Big Beautiful Bill which was recently passed amounts to a tax cut for the top 1% and will negatively impact everyone else. It will also exclude from Medicaid/Medicare 15 to 20 million (depending on estimates) poor Americans who otherwise can't access healthcare. As for the Latina nannies etc, they're sent to fucking 'alligator alcatraz', sometimes abducted from playgrounds whilst looking after toddlers! Who in their right mind votes for such cruelty against ordinary working people?? And wait until the impact of the tariffs is felt in the Autumn. So far, it's just been chaos but they WILL bite, and soon. So many small business owners are already completely screwed because they don't have access to the right manufacturing infrastructure in the US. That can't be built at scale overnight. They have had to outsource to factories in China for the past decades- all of a sudden, they can't absorb the costs of importing their products for sale in the US. So a lot of them are already going bankrupt because they're hit with ridiculous customs bills. And what about the consumers? They are already feeling the pinch. Tariffs are an IMPORT TAX. A TAX. From a man who supposedly claims to put more $$ in American pockets. However, in the real world, all that's happening now is that the cost of pretty much everything is going up. Some big companies like Amazon have the capacity to absorb some of those costs (as mandated by DJT who went after Bezos when he suggested transparency on price increases caused by tariffs). Most independent businesses cannot. So, this is killing a whole swath of US entrepreneurs/ SMEs and causing hardship for American workers.
Such bullshit!

LakieLady · 16/08/2025 11:23

SpryUmberZebra · 15/08/2025 22:40

And yet your precious Queen protected her pedophile son after he raped an underaged girl on Epstein’s island.

Bloody hypocrite.

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Not my "precious Queen", thanks.

And at least the son in question has no power or authority in the country, and would never have been elected to a position that gave him any.

LakieLady · 16/08/2025 11:17

Bathingforest · 15/08/2025 22:17

Communism, lol. The UK is the most communist country right now

Good grief, if the UK has the most communist country with Starmer's lot in charge, what on earth must you think of the Attlee government, that gave us the NHS and welfare state, or Harold Wilson's government in the 1960's?

Even Tory PM Edward Heath must have seemed like a communist to you.

ElCorazon · 16/08/2025 10:39

If I was an American citizen I would have voted for Trump 😑

Who is anti Trump? The woke idiots. The well -to-do middle classes who are afraid that their cheap illegal migrant latina housekeeper will be deported and they will have to hire someone with an actual green card or American citizenship and have to pay her higher wages.

The Hollywood elite is also anti Trump because they don’t live in the real, ordinary world. They don’t experience homelessness, job loss, financial problems, street crime etc. They are barricaded in their multimillion-dollar villas and wash their bums in jewel-encrusted gold bidets.
University students are also anti Trump because what do they know? They are still in the education system that is heavily focused on brainwashing young minds into little woke drones.

Serpentstooth · 16/08/2025 10:27

VaseofViolets · 15/08/2025 21:00

Why do people throw around words like dictatorship and fascism these days without the slightest idea what they mean? It’s so tedious. Have they ever opened a history book?

You might care to consult a dictionary and a few history books before further comment. It will save you more embarrassment.

DdraigGoch · 16/08/2025 10:11

spoonbillstretford · 15/08/2025 22:24

"Diet and exercise cost nothing." Save that argument for the police when you're caught shoplifting groceries.

The police won't do anything about shoplifting unless the value of £200. You're going to need a lot of lettuce to spend that much.

Tryingtokeepgoing · 16/08/2025 09:59

SpryUmberZebra · 15/08/2025 23:55

Again what is dictatorial about it?

Pharmaceutical companies charge Americans way more than people in other countries and he is forcing them to stop ripping up Americans yet you are upset that it is dictatorial because you have to pay more 😂

How is it a frivolous decision? A decision aimed at stopping millions of Americans being ripped off and treated unfairly is frivolous 😂what a joker.

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Surely one of the reasons that Americans pay more for drugs is that the US healthcare system, which comprises a large number of smaller healthcare providers, doesn’t have the collective purchasing power of countries that do have a national health service. UK and EU health services can negotiate directly with pharma companies because they are buying huge volumes. Meanwhile in the US, thousands and thousands of smaller health companies and hospitals negotiate and buy their drugs independent of each other. In the Land of the Free, the answer to the consequence of this free market approach is price controls ;)

Alexandra2001 · 16/08/2025 09:46

Trumps calls Putin "the Boss"

Says it all really.

WhereIsMyJumper · 16/08/2025 09:41

SriouslyWhutNow · 15/08/2025 20:55

I'm not sure you understand the word "dictatorship" OP. Try looking at countries with actual dictatorships for reference.

Yep.
I wouldn’t say things in the US seem great but that’s by our standards - compare the US to any actual dictatorship past or present and the US will seem like a utopia

Dangermoo · 16/08/2025 09:39

Somebody better explain to the OP what the First Amendment is.

LakieLady · 16/08/2025 09:36

spoonbillstretford · 15/08/2025 21:41

It's not in a state and certainly not compared to the US. We have a proper political and legal system with checks and balances and an independent system. We have free and accessible healthcare, not the scraps thrown to you occasionally after emptying your wallets into insurance. We have at least five weeks annual leave a year and proper matenity leave and sound employment rights. We have a very safe, tolerant country where we can freely express our views without fear of reprisal. We have largely very good race and gender relations. We don't have guns and violent crime is low. We don't have hundreds of kids killed by lone gumen a year in schools - in fact, like in most countries without a gun culture, we usually have zero school shootings in a year, unlike the US which averages one a week. Women can get safe, free abortions and contraception without fear of ptosecution or persecution. The US is seriously fucked up and is fast going to hell in a handcart with an orange rapist dictator.

Agree with all of this except for the last word.

America is not a dictatorship yet. I will reserve judgement on that point until we see if he tries to extend his term somehow, eg postponing the election for some spurious reason. He's got form, the events on Jan 6 showed us that.

Some of the actions the immigration service is taking in his name are appalling, and clearly contrary to human rights, like this US citizen child with cancer detained . Where's the due process, and right to challenge the action?

There's a lot wrong with the UK, for sure, but our government isn't locking up and deporting children, and certainly not children who are UK citizens.

ICE sent 3 U.S. citizen children, including boy with cancer, to Honduras with their deported moms

An immigration group filed a lawsuit on behalf of two families, saying they were not given access to legal counsel before two mothers and their children were sent to Central America.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ice-deport-us-citizen-kids-stage-4-cancer-honduras-rcna224501

Dangermoo · 16/08/2025 09:32

DdraigGoch · 16/08/2025 09:14

The UK doesn‘t have gangs of masked men lifting people off of the streets and sending them to CECOT with no due process.

The UK doesn't have DOGE rooting through its computers and passing confidential information to the Russians.

The UK isn’t starting a pointless trade war with the whole world, in which there will be no winners (but the US will be the biggest loser).

The UK doesn‘t have a head of state who let a violent insurrection happen.

The UK isn't deploying troops to suppress its major cities.

The UK isn't cracking down on academic freedom.

Do I need to go on? Yes, the UK is far better off.

What dictatorship still has freedom of expression?

Dangermoo · 16/08/2025 09:29

Nagginthenag · 16/08/2025 09:19

'Protest groups being classed as illegal.'

Palestine Action weren't banned for protesting. Heaven knows, we have hundreds, probably thousands of protest groups in the UK doing their thing every day of the week. They were banned because of stunts like breaking into an Raf base. I' my guessing if a similar group had broken into an USAF base they wouldn't have been arrested and their group banned, but would have probably been shot.

As to Russian meddling in US elections - from Trump's mouth to your ear.......

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jul/18/donald-trump-putin-2016-election-russia-cbs

https://time.com/5341137/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-russian-meddling-correction/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/politics/senate-panel-finds-russia-interfered-in-the-2016-us-election

The last is about a report from a Republican led Senate committee.

Correct about PAG - protestors, when they support those terrorists, are supporting interfering with military aircraft. I don't see what's so hard to understand.

Nagginthenag · 16/08/2025 09:19

'Protest groups being classed as illegal.'

Palestine Action weren't banned for protesting. Heaven knows, we have hundreds, probably thousands of protest groups in the UK doing their thing every day of the week. They were banned because of stunts like breaking into an Raf base. I' my guessing if a similar group had broken into an USAF base they wouldn't have been arrested and their group banned, but would have probably been shot.

As to Russian meddling in US elections - from Trump's mouth to your ear.......

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jul/18/donald-trump-putin-2016-election-russia-cbs

https://time.com/5341137/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-russian-meddling-correction/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/politics/senate-panel-finds-russia-interfered-in-the-2016-us-election

The last is about a report from a Republican led Senate committee.

Trump now claims he was 'very strong' with Putin on election meddling

After clashing statements on who was responsible, president claims he told Russian leader: ‘We can’t have this’

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jul/18/donald-trump-putin-2016-election-russia-cbs

StandFirm · 16/08/2025 09:18

CerealForDinnerAgain · 16/08/2025 01:32

I’m an American living in the US.

Clearly most posters here have no idea wgat they are talking about. They’ve hr er lived here and never will. Do you think we even care what you think? Until you’re paying taxes here, it doesn’t matter.

But things are not so great in the UK either. Protest groups being classed as illegal. People being locked up for a casual tweet (that was subsequently removed). You can’t even choose what your own children take to school to eat at lunch time.

It absolutely matters to the rest of the world. Have you thought of the millions of people affected by the withdrawal of USAid? And for Europe, you may not give a shit, but the decisions your dismal administration is taking directly and deeply affects our security. I have two kids of fighting age. I care.
By the way, I have have been a regular visitor to the US for my entire life, am partly US educated and have my childhood friends in the US. They agree with me.

DdraigGoch · 16/08/2025 09:14

Bathingforest · 15/08/2025 21:59

it is not forever and he is not really a dictator
many people like him , many don't
are the UK better off and in what way

The UK doesn‘t have gangs of masked men lifting people off of the streets and sending them to CECOT with no due process.

The UK doesn't have DOGE rooting through its computers and passing confidential information to the Russians.

The UK isn’t starting a pointless trade war with the whole world, in which there will be no winners (but the US will be the biggest loser).

The UK doesn‘t have a head of state who let a violent insurrection happen.

The UK isn't deploying troops to suppress its major cities.

The UK isn't cracking down on academic freedom.

Do I need to go on? Yes, the UK is far better off.

StandFirm · 16/08/2025 09:12

SriouslyWhutNow · 15/08/2025 20:55

I'm not sure you understand the word "dictatorship" OP. Try looking at countries with actual dictatorships for reference.

All-powerful executive branch (well, one person only: POTUS) and subservient legislative and judicial branches (ie. removal of checks and balances), extreme gerrymandering potentially compromising the fairness of future elections , pressuring of academia and media, unaccountable beefed up agency dedicated to the removal of undesirables, military takeover of cities... I mean, it's not looking good. Anyone with any notion of political philosophy and history is in agreement that all of the above are telltale signs.

Alexandra2001 · 16/08/2025 08:56

SamPM · 15/08/2025 21:27

Oh, and please do explain how Trump signing executive orders asking drug companies to reduce their charges to Americans is a bad thing? Do you have any idea how exorbitant drug prices are in the US? People have DIED in this country because they cannot afford their treatment. Your comment makes no sense.

People die in the US because you have no health service & they will continue to die.

Trump being "the big i am" over Ukraine, his siding up to Putin, whats all that about??
Putin invaded, yet Zelensky is the bad guy....

Trump supports/excuses Putin at every opportunity, the real question is why??

Trump is actually a very poor "dictator" he is weak, very weak, you think you've a strong man but TACO is very real, does it on tariffs, does it over Putin.

My own belief is Putin has something over Trump.... You lot elected a Russian Stooge.

2 Tier justice? Trump ordered the release of people who tried to kill police officers at the Whitehouse and who he encouraged to overthrow an election.

...I'd look at your own justice issues and freedom of speech restrictions first.

Dangermoo · 16/08/2025 08:28

Well said. Many of our citizens love to signal their virtue. They are obsessed with Trump and Farage, call everything they don't agree with Far right and/or racist. They will look for racism around every corner, while condescending POC. Being 'on the right side of history' - Gaza being a classic example - is a must for them. Luckily, the rest of us can just tell them to piss off, when they try to recruit you - except you can't say that as deliciously on here, as you can outside this bubble.

ETA@ @CerealForDinnerAgain

lkjhgfdsa · 16/08/2025 08:12

YankSplaining · 16/08/2025 03:43

My “favorite” free speech incident in the UK was the teenage girl who was arrested for saying a police officer looked like her “lesbian nana.” That’s like something out of a dystopian novel.

If the US was a dictatorship, you wouldn’t be seeing loud, widespread opposition to Trump all over the nation. Do people think North Koreans are allowed to do that about Kim Jong Un? Do they think people in Nazi Germany were allowed to do that about Hitler?

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The one where a vulnerable autistic 16 year old was taken home by the police after reports she was intoxicated and at risk in the city centre? Seems her mother was concerned enough to film her being arrested but not enough to protect her from being in dangerous situation in the first place.

lkjhgfdsa · 16/08/2025 08:00

NCReceptor · 16/08/2025 03:12

One of those dreadful democratic dictatorships that elects their leaders.

Do you think Putin is a dictator?