To think that the USA is a dictatorship now?

Perfect 👏This is them all over.

Also, re due process...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/aug/14/ice-lawsuit-louisiana-immigration-deportation?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g278yn4d3o#:~:text=A%20federal%20judge%20has%20said,citizen%2C%22%20said%20the%20judge.

https://www.ilrc.org/sites/default/files/resources/mandatory_deportation_backgrounder_final_w_ijn_logo1.pdf#:~:text=12%20%E2%96%AA%20Higher%20risk%20of%20homelessness%20and,them%20from%20the%20country%20they%20call%20home.

https://immigrationforum.org/article/expanded-expedited-removal-and-challenges-to-due-process/

You should make an effort to follow the news, its clear you don't know what you're talking about.

Great thread OP. I love that while you furiously denounce Trump for being a fascist ending democracy, what has actually really got you riled up is ...the price of your weight loss jabs going up.

Sums up our "progressive" liberal left in their solipsistic complacency.

To the fine folks on this thread trying to reason with Trump fans; just know that you're not talking to people who can be rational about this.

Pot kettle springs to mind.

They are not being held without due process. They are being detained while an immigration judge processes their removal. NO ONE is going against the law or the Constitution. It is illegal to enter the US without prior approval. It is illegal to overstay a visa. All of these laws are on the books and have been for decades. They are just finally being enforced.

As for DC, guess what DC means? District of Columbia, another word for the federal government. DC has ALWAYS been under the purview of the federal government, but the responsibility for policing themselves was given to the residents who obviously couldn't handle the responsibility. It devolved into a lawless shithole, to the point where elected officials had to hire body guards or carry firearms themselves and staffers were being attacked in broad daylight.

The amount of ignorance on MN always astounds me.

They are not being held without due process. They are being detained while an immigration judge processes their removal. NO ONE is going against the law or the Constitution. It is illegal to enter the US without prior approval. It is illegal to overstay a visa. All of these laws are on the books and have been for decades. They are just finally being enforced.

As for DC, guess what DC means? District of Columbia, another word for the federal government. DC has ALWAYS been under the purview of the federal government, but the responsibility for policing themselves was given to the residents who obviously couldn't handle the responsibility. It devolved into a lawless shithole, to the point where elected officials had to hire body guards or carry firearms themselves and staffers were being attacked in broad daylight.

The amount of ignorance on MN always astounds me.

They are not being held without due process. They are being detained while an immigration judge processes their removal. NO ONE is going against the law or the Constitution. It is illegal to enter the US without prior approval. It is illegal to overstay a visa. All of these laws are on the books and have been for decades. They are just finally being enforced.

As for DC, guess what DC means? District of Columbia, another word for the federal government. DC has ALWAYS been under the purview of the federal government, but the responsibility for policing themselves was given to the residents who obviously couldn't handle the responsibility. It devolved into a lawless shithole, to the point where elected officials had to hire body guards or carry firearms themselves and staffers were being attacked in broad daylight.

The amount of ignorance on MN always astounds me.

It's not in a state and certainly not compared to the US. We have a proper political and legal system with checks and balances and an independent system. We have free and accessible healthcare, not the scraps thrown to you occasionally after emptying your wallets into insurance. We have at least five weeks annual leave a year and proper matenity leave and sound employment rights. We have a very safe, tolerant country where we can freely express our views without fear of reprisal. We have largely very good race and gender relations. We don't have guns and violent crime is low. We don't have hundreds of kids killed by lone gumen a year in schools - in fact, like in most countries without a gun culture, we usually have zero school shootings in a year, unlike the US which averages one a week. Women can get safe, free abortions and contraception without fear of ptosecution or persecution. The US is seriously fucked up and is fast going to hell in a handcart with an orange rapist dictator.

It's all online, if you care to look it up.

I am well aware of the claims made about CRT. But social gossips and rumours aren’t facts.
Having details on schools that are teaching all white people are racist would be facts so I was interested to know which schools they are.

You've missed a point.
She was put in remand immediately until the trial was held.
He was let go on bail until his trial which was around one year later.
Black belt barrister who is a qualified professional, offers the terms that the law recommends versus what actually happened. No advice is given. Just how the law should have treated it according to their own guidelines.

You're talking out of your ass.
Where the heck did you get your figures from?
Don't spout made up figures at least without providing a credible recognized source
These are from professional polls:
A June 2025 Reuters/Ipsos poll shows Trump's overall approval rating at 42%, consistent with previous months.

A June 2025 Reuters/Ipsos poll shows Trump's overall approval rating at 42%, consistent with previous months.

Sources:
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-approval-steady-42-support-weakens-his-immigration-policy-reutersipsos-2025-06-16/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keir_Starmer

Goalpost shifting.

We have laws against inciting racial hatred and against rioting, violence and causing criminal damage. People were charged, tried, and found guilty of breaking the law using lawful processes, and sentenced to a few months in prison. US sentencing is usually much harsher - people wouldn't see the light of day for years.

And now in the US people with the wrong coloured skin or accent are disappearing without lawful process or appeal. Get your own house in order. Good luck with voting out a dictator.

I think what she said was a horrible rude, disgusting comment. I vehemently disagree with it. But I don't think the sentence should have been custodial.

I think one of the biggest disparities is that she was held on the remand without option of bail and he was released for a year to get his ducks in a row. And a fake ADHD diagnosis.

So you concede that dropping the funding was fully within the discretion of the government. That's fine.

You were the one who brought up Federal funding.

I have already shown that the threat about removing funding was not within the narrow context of violent acts.

Where within that do I say “they have a right to Federal funding”?

Calling out their weak commitment to Free Speech, using the example of Trump calling for financial consequences (in this case freezing federal funds) for universities that allow protest he disapproves is not, in any way shape or form me saying they have a right to federal funds.

But you knew that.

You were the one who brought up Federal funding.

I have already shown that the threat about removing funding was not within the narrow context of violent acts.

I did not say they have a right to Federal funding did I? The conversation was about Free Speech and how the administration responds to speech they disagree with.

What you are now doing is called “moving the goalposts”.