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To think that the USA is a dictatorship now?

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spoonbillstretford · 15/08/2025 20:24

Trump appears to have ultimate power. Who can challenge him? Who controls him? Presidents should not be dictating what drug companies charge for medicines on a whim, or indeed any other goods, at the drop of a hat. He says jump and the US says "How High?" What on earth have you done to yourselves and the world to let this evil, thick, orange toddler clown represent you? What the hell were you thinking?

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Timelineuk · 15/08/2025 21:43

SamPM · 15/08/2025 21:22

I live in the US and its not a dictatorship. Many of us are quite happy with Trump. The UK elected Starmer who is the most incompetent and worthless PM in my lifetime. You should be worrying more about your loss of freedom of speech and civil liberties, the two-tier justice system you have, the crumbling NHS and the overwhelming increase in crime rate and unfettered illegal immigration. I no longer recognize the UK when I go back and definitely do not feel safe. But yes, by all means, have a superior smug dig at Trump and those that voted for him.

There are 350 millions Americans and although I don’t live there I have family and a fair few friends and I see media posts and I call bullshit on your ‘most of us are happy! He’s divided the country and politically many can’t stand him. He’s a divisive man and full of hatred and gets off on people worshipping him.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 15/08/2025 21:41

PamIsAVolleyballChamp · 15/08/2025 21:41

This, as pp said, it's the people of the USA who've voted him in.
Its not a dictatorship just because they have different views and political opinions to you!

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Will they be able to vote him out though? 🤔

spoonbillstretford · 15/08/2025 21:41

VaseofViolets · 15/08/2025 21:23

God knows why Brits think their opinions on Trump matter, or what they hope to achieve by lecturing supposedly dumb Americans on their stupidity. The US elected him. Their choice, no one else’s. Look at the state the UK is in. How are Brits in a position to pontificate to anyone?

It's not in a state and certainly not compared to the US. We have a proper political and legal system with checks and balances and an independent system. We have free and accessible healthcare, not the scraps thrown to you occasionally after emptying your wallets into insurance. We have at least five weeks annual leave a year and proper matenity leave and sound employment rights. We have a very safe, tolerant country where we can freely express our views without fear of reprisal. We have largely very good race and gender relations. We don't have guns and violent crime is low. We don't have hundreds of kids killed by lone gumen a year in schools - in fact, like in most countries without a gun culture, we usually have zero school shootings in a year, unlike the US which averages one a week. Women can get safe, free abortions and contraception without fear of ptosecution or persecution. The US is seriously fucked up and is fast going to hell in a handcart with an orange rapist dictator.

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PamIsAVolleyballChamp · 15/08/2025 21:41

VaseofViolets · 15/08/2025 21:00

Why do people throw around words like dictatorship and fascism these days without the slightest idea what they mean? It’s so tedious. Have they ever opened a history book?

This, as pp said, it's the people of the USA who've voted him in.
Its not a dictatorship just because they have different views and political opinions to you!

Sausagenbacon · 15/08/2025 21:40

IMO I think there is a subset of mn posters who lack the critical thinking to realise that - surprise - other people think differently from them, and aren't idiots/racists (insert abusive epithet of choice).

VaseofViolets · 15/08/2025 21:38

xanthomelana · 15/08/2025 21:37

No we just let our 12 year olds get raped by grooming gangs then cover it up. We are no better.

Precisely. The UK has no business lecturing anyone.

Sausagenbacon · 15/08/2025 21:38

I was told a few days ago by someone who was travelling to Washington soon that they check your phone as you enter the country to see if you have any anti- Trump stuff on your social media. If you do they can and will refuse entry. So they are going to set themselves up with a completely blank phone. I was 😮
Do you believe everything people tell you? Do you honestly think immigration have time to do this?

VaseofViolets · 15/08/2025 21:37

SamPM · 15/08/2025 21:22

I live in the US and its not a dictatorship. Many of us are quite happy with Trump. The UK elected Starmer who is the most incompetent and worthless PM in my lifetime. You should be worrying more about your loss of freedom of speech and civil liberties, the two-tier justice system you have, the crumbling NHS and the overwhelming increase in crime rate and unfettered illegal immigration. I no longer recognize the UK when I go back and definitely do not feel safe. But yes, by all means, have a superior smug dig at Trump and those that voted for him.

How dare you be happy with how the bad orange man is doing?

Let these educated, enlightened Brits with a superiority complex educate you. And don’t mention the current state of the UK or its many problems… this criticism only works in one direction, you see. They can dish it out but don’t like taking it 😁

LimpysGotCancer · 15/08/2025 21:37

VaseofViolets · 15/08/2025 21:30

That’s what appeals to people. He gets things done. You might not like what he’s doing, but he’s actually doing it. UK politicians of all parties talk the same inane talk and achieve precisely nothing.

He doesn't get things done though. He's the "announcement president". He says this or signs an EO on that before moving on /chickening out / bowing down to Putin, and the usual mugs assume it happened because he said it.

xanthomelana · 15/08/2025 21:37

Agrumpyknitter · 15/08/2025 21:35

lol. At least we don’t force 12 year olds who have been raped to have a forced birth. We still respect Womens right to have bodily autonomy in this country. With the US overturning Roe and Wade I don’t recognise what country you have become, with pastors (read right wing Christian fundamentalists) who openly preach that women need to submit to their husbands. With vile men like Tate being welcome by the US. With Trump forcing law firms, universities to submit to him you don’t have much freedom of speech either. Oh and at least none of us will become bankrupt when we need healthcare in this country.

No we just let our 12 year olds get raped by grooming gangs then cover it up. We are no better.

categorychaos · 15/08/2025 21:36

SamPM · 15/08/2025 21:27

Oh, and please do explain how Trump signing executive orders asking drug companies to reduce their charges to Americans is a bad thing? Do you have any idea how exorbitant drug prices are in the US? People have DIED in this country because they cannot afford their treatment. Your comment makes no sense.

People die in your country because people like Trump and to be honest any political party (of any shade) has not challenged why your citizens should have to pay for treatment and drugs to the extent they do. Trump is asking the drug companies he does not have an invested interest in to comply.

OP in answer to your question I’d say not a dictatorship but the US was never, ever a democracy - it looks like it’s becoming an oligarchy more than anything.

TranceNation · 15/08/2025 21:36

North Korea is a dictatorship. The US is nowhere near on the same level of authoritarianism.

Agrumpyknitter · 15/08/2025 21:35

SamPM · 15/08/2025 21:22

I live in the US and its not a dictatorship. Many of us are quite happy with Trump. The UK elected Starmer who is the most incompetent and worthless PM in my lifetime. You should be worrying more about your loss of freedom of speech and civil liberties, the two-tier justice system you have, the crumbling NHS and the overwhelming increase in crime rate and unfettered illegal immigration. I no longer recognize the UK when I go back and definitely do not feel safe. But yes, by all means, have a superior smug dig at Trump and those that voted for him.

lol. At least we don’t force 12 year olds who have been raped to have a forced birth. We still respect Womens right to have bodily autonomy in this country. With the US overturning Roe and Wade I don’t recognise what country you have become, with pastors (read right wing Christian fundamentalists) who openly preach that women need to submit to their husbands. With vile men like Tate being welcome by the US. With Trump forcing law firms, universities to submit to him you don’t have much freedom of speech either. Oh and at least none of us will become bankrupt when we need healthcare in this country.

Agrumpyknitter · 15/08/2025 21:35

SamPM · 15/08/2025 21:22

I live in the US and its not a dictatorship. Many of us are quite happy with Trump. The UK elected Starmer who is the most incompetent and worthless PM in my lifetime. You should be worrying more about your loss of freedom of speech and civil liberties, the two-tier justice system you have, the crumbling NHS and the overwhelming increase in crime rate and unfettered illegal immigration. I no longer recognize the UK when I go back and definitely do not feel safe. But yes, by all means, have a superior smug dig at Trump and those that voted for him.

lol. At least we don’t force 12 year olds who have been raped to have a forced birth. We still respect Womens right to have bodily autonomy in this country. With the US overturning Roe and Wade I don’t recognise what country you have become, with pastors (read right wing Christian fundamentalists) who openly preach that women need to submit to their husbands. With vile men like Tate being welcome by the US. With Trump forcing law firms, universities to submit to him you don’t have much freedom of speech either. Oh and at least none of us will become bankrupt when we need healthcare in this country.

LimpysGotCancer · 15/08/2025 21:35

SamPM · 15/08/2025 21:22

I live in the US and its not a dictatorship. Many of us are quite happy with Trump. The UK elected Starmer who is the most incompetent and worthless PM in my lifetime. You should be worrying more about your loss of freedom of speech and civil liberties, the two-tier justice system you have, the crumbling NHS and the overwhelming increase in crime rate and unfettered illegal immigration. I no longer recognize the UK when I go back and definitely do not feel safe. But yes, by all means, have a superior smug dig at Trump and those that voted for him.

Haha, you forgot to throw in a mention of "Khan's London" and people getting thrown into jail for praying in their homes.

Just say "I'm incredibly gullible and believe everything I see on Twitter or get told by JD Vance", it would be much quicker.

VaseofViolets · 15/08/2025 21:33

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 15/08/2025 21:32

Which is all well and good when you agree with the stuff he is ‘getting done’. When it negatively impacts you and there is no democratic way to stop it happening it might start to feel rather like communism.

Of course it’s not, don’t be so silly. When you voted Conservative and ended up with Labour, do you suddenly start believing you live in a communist state because you don’t like Labour policies and didn’t vote for them?

Sampler · 15/08/2025 21:32

Ah come on, Trump is a wannabe dictator and I can’t believe people are defending the orange idiot.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 15/08/2025 21:32

VaseofViolets · 15/08/2025 21:30

That’s what appeals to people. He gets things done. You might not like what he’s doing, but he’s actually doing it. UK politicians of all parties talk the same inane talk and achieve precisely nothing.

Which is all well and good when you agree with the stuff he is ‘getting done’. When it negatively impacts you and there is no democratic way to stop it happening it might start to feel rather like communism.

VaseofViolets · 15/08/2025 21:30

spoonbillstretford · 15/08/2025 21:26

Exactly. There seem to be no checks and balances in the US now. Trump has a brainfart and suddenly it's enacted. Where are the debates, discussion and challenges in the US system? He just seems to be able to do whatever he feels like, on a whim, and people bow down to him and put into place what he asked for.

That’s what appeals to people. He gets things done. You might not like what he’s doing, but he’s actually doing it. UK politicians of all parties talk the same inane talk and achieve precisely nothing.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 15/08/2025 21:30

SamPM · 15/08/2025 21:27

Oh, and please do explain how Trump signing executive orders asking drug companies to reduce their charges to Americans is a bad thing? Do you have any idea how exorbitant drug prices are in the US? People have DIED in this country because they cannot afford their treatment. Your comment makes no sense.

That’s the fault of their health system!!!!!!! Why the hell are they forcing countries elsewhere to absorb their crazy prices instead of coming up with a way of offering health care to their citizens that doesn’t require a bank loan each time. Talk about the tail wagging the dog.

xanthomelana · 15/08/2025 21:30

So Trump wants big pharma to stop selling drugs at rip off prices to people in America and that makes him a dictator? They pay three times the price for the same drugs as European countries so I can see why he’s a bit pissed with that and wants change. Eli Lilly could have dropped the American price to fall in line with ours but instead they took the other option of raising it. I follow a lot of Mounjaro subs on Reddit and the price they pay if their insurance won’t cover it is insane.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 15/08/2025 21:29

I was told a few days ago by someone who was travelling to Washington soon that they check your phone as you enter the country to see if you have any anti- Trump stuff on your social media. If you do they can and will refuse entry. So they are going to set themselves up with a completely blank phone. I was 😮

SamPM · 15/08/2025 21:27

spoonbillstretford · 15/08/2025 20:24

Trump appears to have ultimate power. Who can challenge him? Who controls him? Presidents should not be dictating what drug companies charge for medicines on a whim, or indeed any other goods, at the drop of a hat. He says jump and the US says "How High?" What on earth have you done to yourselves and the world to let this evil, thick, orange toddler clown represent you? What the hell were you thinking?

Oh, and please do explain how Trump signing executive orders asking drug companies to reduce their charges to Americans is a bad thing? Do you have any idea how exorbitant drug prices are in the US? People have DIED in this country because they cannot afford their treatment. Your comment makes no sense.

spoonbillstretford · 15/08/2025 21:26

Martymcfly24 · 15/08/2025 21:04

"Dictatorships are often characterised by some of the following: suspension of elections and civil liberties; proclamation of a state of emergency; rule by decree; repression of political opponents; not abiding by the procedures of the rule of law; and the existence of a cult of personality centered on the leader."

There are definitely many overlaps between his administration and a dictatorships.

Exactly. There seem to be no checks and balances in the US now. Trump has a brainfart and suddenly it's enacted. Where are the debates, discussion and challenges in the US system? He just seems to be able to do whatever he feels like, on a whim, and people bow down to him and put into place what he asked for.

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TooBigForMyBoots · 15/08/2025 21:24

We won't properly know if it's a dictatorship until the midterms.

It's certainly an authoritarian state right now.