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To think that the USA is a dictatorship now?

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spoonbillstretford · 15/08/2025 20:24

Trump appears to have ultimate power. Who can challenge him? Who controls him? Presidents should not be dictating what drug companies charge for medicines on a whim, or indeed any other goods, at the drop of a hat. He says jump and the US says "How High?" What on earth have you done to yourselves and the world to let this evil, thick, orange toddler clown represent you? What the hell were you thinking?

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spoonbillstretford · 15/08/2025 22:17

Sausagenbacon · 15/08/2025 22:07

Because leftists are incapable of discussion or accepting others have different views from their own
Spot on. It appears often on MN. 'Disagree with me and you're fascist, Reform, racist' etc etc
And it's always from the Left

You seem to be mixing left and right with authoritarian and liberal. People can be left wing and liberal, left wing and authoritarian, right wing and liberal, right wing and authoritarian. Trump is a right wing extreme authoritarian, i.e. a dictator. How often does he debate or listen to other people's views or accept that others have different views? Never.

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VaseofViolets · 15/08/2025 22:17

Bathingforest · 15/08/2025 22:09

absolutely
it takes a foreign living here to see it as it is

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Indeed. The decline and transformation of the UK is astonishing to outsiders. But any mention of UK’s own problems is resisted - seems Brits would rather obsess over the orange man instead of getting their own house in order. Those in glass houses, etc. Tragic to see.

Bathingforest · 15/08/2025 22:17

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 15/08/2025 21:32

Which is all well and good when you agree with the stuff he is ‘getting done’. When it negatively impacts you and there is no democratic way to stop it happening it might start to feel rather like communism.

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Communism, lol. The UK is the most communist country right now

Namechangedagain999 · 15/08/2025 22:15

Many of us in the uk have no choice in who is in government. Don’t waste your brain cells on that it’s a conundrum you will not work out and i won’t enlighten you.

america is a hellhole just now. And is being trashed and asset stripped. Best wishes.

Timelineuk · 15/08/2025 22:15

Sausagenbacon · 15/08/2025 22:07

Because leftists are incapable of discussion or accepting others have different views from their own
Spot on. It appears often on MN. 'Disagree with me and you're fascist, Reform, racist' etc etc
And it's always from the Left

Also lefties tard if you disagree with one of those arse liking Tommy Robinson fans and refomers works both ways. Extremists on both sides.

NeuroSpicyCat · 15/08/2025 22:15

Diet and exercise cost nothing.

The UK were getting cheap weight loss drugs and the gravy boat has now been pulled.

Hardly Handmaidens Tale.

Bathingforest · 15/08/2025 22:15

VaseofViolets · 15/08/2025 21:30

That’s what appeals to people. He gets things done. You might not like what he’s doing, but he’s actually doing it. UK politicians of all parties talk the same inane talk and achieve precisely nothing.

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Actual men who do things as men used to do them. That topic is also very hated here. Is Starmer better and in what way....

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spoonbillstretford · 15/08/2025 22:11

VaseofViolets · 15/08/2025 21:23

God knows why Brits think their opinions on Trump matter, or what they hope to achieve by lecturing supposedly dumb Americans on their stupidity. The US elected him. Their choice, no one else’s. Look at the state the UK is in. How are Brits in a position to pontificate to anyone?

Yes, why would we have a view on a world superpower whose actions can affect all our lives? Seemingly at the drop of a hat, a brainfart comes out of his gob and suddenly our drugs cost 70% more. Why would we have a view on that?

Don't worry, I'm sure soon you won't be allowed to have a view that opposes your government or President and won't be able to hear any of our uncomfortable criticism from elsewhere. I just hope you've read The Hunger Games and The Handmaid's Tale.

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Agrumpyknitter · 15/08/2025 22:11

xanthomelana · 15/08/2025 21:37

No we just let our 12 year olds get raped by grooming gangs then cover it up. We are no better.

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We are actually better. at least we have bodily autonomy not to be forced into more trauma into carrying the child to full term. Do you not think these things happen everywhere? As shameful and aborhent those acts were. You do realise how much our own Police were involved don’t you? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn9y0lvpyqvo.amp

At least our elected leader hasn’t had to pay off a porn star or have accusations of having relations with underaged girls follow his leadership. No Epstein files for Keir.

Designed image, tinted blue, showing the South Yorkshire Police logo on the right, and silhouettes of teenage girls with long hair. At the top is a mural showing a Rotherham hillside.

Police officers ‘also abused’ Rotherham grooming gang victims - BBC News

One says she was raped from the age of 12 by a South Yorkshire Police officer in a marked police car.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn9y0lvpyqvo.amp

PurpleLeather · 15/08/2025 22:10

Think it’s the UK you’re talking about under Starmer or maybe you haven’t noticed what’s actually going on here? Wish we had President Trumps in office here, this shower are destroying our country and its people.

pointythings · 15/08/2025 22:09

Ethina · 15/08/2025 22:01

The constitution hasn’t been changed or what did I miss, what checks and balances have been removed

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Well, this is a country where citizens are now picked up by the immigration authorities and 'vanished' without trace - if they look a little bit brown.

It's a country where the judiciary is being gutted or set aside and where the Executive does what it wants.

It's a country where the Constitution, always held so sacred by the GOP, is being ignored or reinterpreted to suit the political agenda of those in power.

I'd say there's a hell of a lot wrong with the checks and balances in the US. My DC are US citizens - needless to say they will not be going anywhere near the place.

Bathingforest · 15/08/2025 22:09

SamPM · 15/08/2025 21:22

I live in the US and its not a dictatorship. Many of us are quite happy with Trump. The UK elected Starmer who is the most incompetent and worthless PM in my lifetime. You should be worrying more about your loss of freedom of speech and civil liberties, the two-tier justice system you have, the crumbling NHS and the overwhelming increase in crime rate and unfettered illegal immigration. I no longer recognize the UK when I go back and definitely do not feel safe. But yes, by all means, have a superior smug dig at Trump and those that voted for him.

absolutely
it takes a foreign living here to see it as it is

businessflop25 · 15/08/2025 22:07

Timelineuk · 15/08/2025 21:58

I’m with you. Watch it will turn out for them. The turn on each other eventually when they realize Farage isn the answer.

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You would have thought they would have worked it out by now. Farage’s only achievement in life is brexit and that didn’t exactly go to plan did it. 🙄

Sausagenbacon · 15/08/2025 22:07

Because leftists are incapable of discussion or accepting others have different views from their own
Spot on. It appears often on MN. 'Disagree with me and you're fascist, Reform, racist' etc etc
And it's always from the Left

pointythings · 15/08/2025 22:06

It's not a dictatorship yet, but it absolutely is descending into authoritarianism. Let's see if the midterms happen, then we'll talk.

Bathingforest · 15/08/2025 22:06

VaseofViolets · 15/08/2025 21:00

Why do people throw around words like dictatorship and fascism these days without the slightest idea what they mean? It’s so tedious. Have they ever opened a history book?

many on here have not

Namechangedagain999 · 15/08/2025 22:06

spoonbillstretford · 15/08/2025 21:53

Probably not. He'll cancel elections next.

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Yes himself and putin have a lot in common. Goodness knows what monetary benefit he has negotiated for himself these few days.

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spoonbillstretford · 15/08/2025 22:04

lkjhgfdsa · 15/08/2025 22:04

Well duh, it's the people who are concerned about women and children's safety obviously. Or maybe it was just thugs? If only there were some clues...

"Two out of every five people arrested after participating in last summer’s riots had been previously reported to the police for domestic abuse, the Guardian can disclose."

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/jul/26/two-in-five-arrested-for-last-summers-uk-riots-had-been-reported-for-domestic-abuse?CMP=ShareAndroidAppOther

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Exactly.

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lkjhgfdsa · 15/08/2025 22:04

spoonbillstretford · 15/08/2025 21:56

Who do you think are attacking refugee hostels? The Women's Institute?

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Well duh, it's the people who are concerned about women and children's safety obviously. Or maybe it was just thugs? If only there were some clues...

"Two out of every five people arrested after participating in last summer’s riots had been previously reported to the police for domestic abuse, the Guardian can disclose."

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/jul/26/two-in-five-arrested-for-last-summers-uk-riots-had-been-reported-for-domestic-abuse?CMP=ShareAndroidAppOther

Two in five arrested for last summer’s UK riots had been reported for domestic abuse

Police data indicates overlaps between public violent disorder and domestic violence and abuse

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/jul/26/two-in-five-arrested-for-last-summers-uk-riots-had-been-reported-for-domestic-abuse?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

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spoonbillstretford · 15/08/2025 22:04

businessflop25 · 15/08/2025 22:02

I’m no fan of Starmer but he isn’t in the same league as Trump. Divisions in this country are by far more caused by the idiot Farage and his right wing muppets.
People in the UK are fed up with politics after over a decade of incompetence and greed of the Tory government. Starmer has been a big disappointment yea but so is the shitshow inherited from the last decade.
The US however is on a downward slippery slope far more dangerous than where we are currently at here

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Quite.

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spoonbillstretford · 15/08/2025 22:02

NeuroSpicyCat · 15/08/2025 21:56

Because they are now priced out of their weight loss drugs and their false sense of entitlement has backfired. Toys out of pram.

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I'm not denying that there are legions of massively overweight people in the US who are far more in need of mounjaro than me. But it's not the fault of everyone else in the world that it costs them too much. Years of voting for right wing laissez faire goverments enacting end stage captalism writ large and socialism being practically a swear word is the problem in the US. That's why your drugs cost too much.

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VaseofViolets · 15/08/2025 22:02

spoonbillstretford · 15/08/2025 21:56

Who do you think are attacking refugee hostels? The Women's Institute?

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So tiresome, this type. No reasoning or debate to be had. So utterly convinced of their own superiority, full of self-righteousness, self satisfied and smug. And then when they see the supposed ‘far right’ emerging it’s surprised pikachu faces all round and wondering how it could have happened. Because leftists are incapable of discussion or accepting others have different views from their own.

So tolerant of all the characteristics that don’t actually matter and utterly intolerant of the one that does - diversity of thought. It’s why the left always ends up eating itself and degenerating into a purity spiral.

businessflop25 · 15/08/2025 22:02

xanthomelana · 15/08/2025 21:45

Sounds very much like Starmer. We have a divided country and many people can’t stand him either. We really shouldn’t be throwing stones at any other country at the moment.

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I’m no fan of Starmer but he isn’t in the same league as Trump. Divisions in this country are by far more caused by the idiot Farage and his right wing muppets.
People in the UK are fed up with politics after over a decade of incompetence and greed of the Tory government. Starmer has been a big disappointment yea but so is the shitshow inherited from the last decade.
The US however is on a downward slippery slope far more dangerous than where we are currently at here

amillionandone · 15/08/2025 22:02

LOL. Someone's been drinking freely of the kool-aid (or something rather stronger), I see.

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