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To think that the USA is a dictatorship now?

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spoonbillstretford · 15/08/2025 20:24

Trump appears to have ultimate power. Who can challenge him? Who controls him? Presidents should not be dictating what drug companies charge for medicines on a whim, or indeed any other goods, at the drop of a hat. He says jump and the US says "How High?" What on earth have you done to yourselves and the world to let this evil, thick, orange toddler clown represent you? What the hell were you thinking?

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SpryUmberZebra · 15/08/2025 22:37

spoonbillstretford · 15/08/2025 22:34

We have laws against inciting racial hatred and against rioting, violence and causing criminal damage. People were charged, tried, and found guilty of breaking the law using lawful processes, and sentenced to a few months in prison. US sentencing is usually much harsher - people wouldn't see the light of day for years.

And now in the US people with the wrong coloured skin or accent are disappearing without lawful process or appeal. Get your own house in order. Good luck with voting out a dictator.

Hahahaha people of colour are disappearing 😂

Im black and live in Chicago and based in your post I duck and hide everyday I have to go out to avoid disappearing 😂

Please get off social media and liberal news outlets 😂

lkjhgfdsa · 15/08/2025 22:37

VaseofViolets · 15/08/2025 22:29

I love the way that poster phrased it… yeah we have a massive problem with grooming gangs and importing huge numbers of men from cultures quite different to our own, but we’ll gloss over that - at least we don’t have your particular problem!

As though that’s anything to boast about. Amazing that the UK, that supposed bastion of human rights, throws its own young girls under the bus as collateral damage in pursuit of that most prized virtue- tolerance. Forget the human rights of its own citizens, those girls, how inconvenient they’re spoiling the multicultural fantasy.

It is possible to believe we do have problems in this country and that things are looking worrying in the US.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 15/08/2025 22:37

And the UK isn’t

LemonCatsHat · 15/08/2025 22:36

To be honest OP, I can’t stand the guy but I don’t think he’s a dictator and I don’t think America will reach dictatorship underneath him.

Do I think he is a rapist? Yes.
A misogynist? Yes.
Seriously dangerous to women, children and gay people? Yes.
A terrible fucking president? Yes.
An utter idiot? Yes.

But I don’t think he has reached dictatorship just yet and I don’t think he will achieve it. Even if he would like to.

VaseofViolets · 15/08/2025 22:36

Educate yourself… by reading fiction.

Make it make sense 😂

Wonder if people mentioning The Handmaid’s Tale have ever actually read it? Or any other books? Maybe a non-fiction book? A history book or two? I doubt it.

Dangermoo · 15/08/2025 22:34

VaseofViolets · 15/08/2025 21:23

God knows why Brits think their opinions on Trump matter, or what they hope to achieve by lecturing supposedly dumb Americans on their stupidity. The US elected him. Their choice, no one else’s. Look at the state the UK is in. How are Brits in a position to pontificate to anyone?

Trump and Farage trigger so many MNers.

SpryUmberZebra · 15/08/2025 22:34

spoonbillstretford · 15/08/2025 21:41

It's not in a state and certainly not compared to the US. We have a proper political and legal system with checks and balances and an independent system. We have free and accessible healthcare, not the scraps thrown to you occasionally after emptying your wallets into insurance. We have at least five weeks annual leave a year and proper matenity leave and sound employment rights. We have a very safe, tolerant country where we can freely express our views without fear of reprisal. We have largely very good race and gender relations. We don't have guns and violent crime is low. We don't have hundreds of kids killed by lone gumen a year in schools - in fact, like in most countries without a gun culture, we usually have zero school shootings in a year, unlike the US which averages one a week. Women can get safe, free abortions and contraception without fear of ptosecution or persecution. The US is seriously fucked up and is fast going to hell in a handcart with an orange rapist dictator.

And yet you’re mad that he is forcing pharma companies to bring down the price of drugs for Americans 😂

And all those horrible things you listed about the US are due to Trump right???

you’re a joke 😅

spoonbillstretford · 15/08/2025 22:34

VaseofViolets · 15/08/2025 22:21

I’m not an American, why would I have that problem?

You’re well on your way in the UK - the country that has imprisoned more people for what they’ve posted on Twitter than Putin’s Russia.

And I don’t waste time reading trashy fiction.

We have laws against inciting racial hatred and against rioting, violence and causing criminal damage. People were charged, tried, and found guilty of breaking the law using lawful processes, and sentenced to a few months in prison. US sentencing is usually much harsher - people wouldn't see the light of day for years.

And now in the US people with the wrong coloured skin or accent are disappearing without lawful process or appeal. Get your own house in order. Good luck with voting out a dictator.

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Bathingforest · 15/08/2025 22:32

VaseofViolets · 15/08/2025 21:48

What was the point in that exercise? All this ranting about orange rapists makes you sound unhinged.

You’ve listed all the ways you believe the UK is superior to the US. Good for you, you live here, that’s fine. What do you want, every single country on earth to be a carbon copy of this one? People are not the same - they have different cultures, different priorities. They’re allowed to. Just because you want it, doesn’t mean others have to. Don’t like the US? Dont live there. Why do you care so much? It’s none of your business.

And the tolerant UK you’re so proud of lets in masses of immigrant men to rape and abuse little girls - that’s the country you’re so proud of….

Starting to think op had an American crush who suddenly left the UK and married an actual American

SpryUmberZebra · 15/08/2025 22:31

Dangermoo · 15/08/2025 20:54

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He’s a dictator because he tells pharma companies to stop charging Americans way more than people in other countries for the same medicine? 😂

You have absolutely no idea what a dictatorship is.

TooBigForMyBoots · 15/08/2025 22:31

Sausagenbacon · 15/08/2025 21:38

I was told a few days ago by someone who was travelling to Washington soon that they check your phone as you enter the country to see if you have any anti- Trump stuff on your social media. If you do they can and will refuse entry. So they are going to set themselves up with a completely blank phone. I was 😮
Do you believe everything people tell you? Do you honestly think immigration have time to do this?

US Immigration are doing this.

Its not just individuals buying burner phones when going to the US. Organisations are providing employees travelling to America with blank phones and laptops.

VaseofViolets · 15/08/2025 22:29

Bathingforest · 15/08/2025 22:21

OK, so you do not see the many 12 year old girls raped here by the gangs and nobody doing anything about it....like really, where is the better part in this? A thread clearly about rivals the UK and the USA

I love the way that poster phrased it… yeah we have a massive problem with grooming gangs and importing huge numbers of men from cultures quite different to our own, but we’ll gloss over that - at least we don’t have your particular problem!

As though that’s anything to boast about. Amazing that the UK, that supposed bastion of human rights, throws its own young girls under the bus as collateral damage in pursuit of that most prized virtue- tolerance. Forget the human rights of its own citizens, those girls, how inconvenient they’re spoiling the multicultural fantasy.

LemonCatsHat · 15/08/2025 22:29

spoonbillstretford · 15/08/2025 22:22

Educate yourself. There are a lot of things going on in the US that look like The Handmaid's Tale.

And there are a ton of threads on UK politics and issues. This one is about the US, and Trump. We don't have to be perfect before we can criticise you or your President either. That's not how it works.

The writer of The Handmaid’s Tale has pointed out similarities between Trump’s America and the Handmaid’s Tale. Yet people here are arguing there aren’t.

There are comments on this thread that genuinely frighten me. I worry about people. We’re headed for darker times

Bathingforest · 15/08/2025 22:29

Sausagenbacon · 15/08/2025 21:40

IMO I think there is a subset of mn posters who lack the critical thinking to realise that - surprise - other people think differently from them, and aren't idiots/racists (insert abusive epithet of choice).

This is the biggest problem on mn. People who deem themselves all for free speech and inclusive, yet cannot handle another's point of view without coming out with the epithets , the < are you on glue > brigade and such things.

Thistoo2023 · 15/08/2025 22:28

SriouslyWhutNow · 15/08/2025 20:55

I'm not sure you understand the word "dictatorship" OP. Try looking at countries with actual dictatorships for reference.

Like Trump is doing?

TooBigForMyBoots · 15/08/2025 22:27

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 15/08/2025 21:32

Which is all well and good when you agree with the stuff he is ‘getting done’. When it negatively impacts you and there is no democratic way to stop it happening it might start to feel rather like communism.

Communism?

Its not communism. It's facism.

PollyBell · 15/08/2025 22:27

spoonbillstretford · 15/08/2025 22:22

Educate yourself. There are a lot of things going on in the US that look like The Handmaid's Tale.

And there are a ton of threads on UK politics and issues. This one is about the US, and Trump. We don't have to be perfect before we can criticise you or your President either. That's not how it works.

'Educate yoursel' does not mean people are going to agree with you just because you tell them they have too and it seems a little dictatorial in itself

LemonCatsHat · 15/08/2025 22:25

SamPM · 15/08/2025 21:22

I live in the US and its not a dictatorship. Many of us are quite happy with Trump. The UK elected Starmer who is the most incompetent and worthless PM in my lifetime. You should be worrying more about your loss of freedom of speech and civil liberties, the two-tier justice system you have, the crumbling NHS and the overwhelming increase in crime rate and unfettered illegal immigration. I no longer recognize the UK when I go back and definitely do not feel safe. But yes, by all means, have a superior smug dig at Trump and those that voted for him.

He’s the most incompetent and worthless PM of your entire life?!

Are you two years old?!

What a bonkers statement. I don’t like a lot about Starmer but that is utterly insane.

spoonbillstretford · 15/08/2025 22:24

NeuroSpicyCat · 15/08/2025 22:15

Diet and exercise cost nothing.

The UK were getting cheap weight loss drugs and the gravy boat has now been pulled.

Hardly Handmaidens Tale.

"Diet and exercise cost nothing." Save that argument for the police when you're caught shoplifting groceries.

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Radiatorvalves · 15/08/2025 22:24

SamPM · 15/08/2025 21:22

I live in the US and its not a dictatorship. Many of us are quite happy with Trump. The UK elected Starmer who is the most incompetent and worthless PM in my lifetime. You should be worrying more about your loss of freedom of speech and civil liberties, the two-tier justice system you have, the crumbling NHS and the overwhelming increase in crime rate and unfettered illegal immigration. I no longer recognize the UK when I go back and definitely do not feel safe. But yes, by all means, have a superior smug dig at Trump and those that voted for him.

May I ask… what did you think of Johnson? Or Truss?

lkjhgfdsa · 15/08/2025 22:23

We don't have federal troops descending on a city to "tackle violent crime" (and imposing curfews) when all the statistics say there has been a massive reduction in crime. We don't have universities being defunded because they aren't following the party political line. We don't have vaccine research being halted because there's an anti vaxxer put in charge. We don't have our defence run by someone who shares a video saying women should not have the right to vote not to mention the whole WhatsApp disaster. We don't have people in masks and plain clothes grabbing people of the street and bundling them into unmarked cars (how are people supposed to know if it is legit?). We don't have press being barred from access because they don't toe the party line...

Why do I care? Because what happens in the USA has repercussions around the world and instability there ends up affecting us all.

spoonbillstretford · 15/08/2025 22:22

NeuroSpicyCat · 15/08/2025 22:15

Diet and exercise cost nothing.

The UK were getting cheap weight loss drugs and the gravy boat has now been pulled.

Hardly Handmaidens Tale.

Educate yourself. There are a lot of things going on in the US that look like The Handmaid's Tale.

And there are a ton of threads on UK politics and issues. This one is about the US, and Trump. We don't have to be perfect before we can criticise you or your President either. That's not how it works.

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VaseofViolets · 15/08/2025 22:21

spoonbillstretford · 15/08/2025 22:11

Yes, why would we have a view on a world superpower whose actions can affect all our lives? Seemingly at the drop of a hat, a brainfart comes out of his gob and suddenly our drugs cost 70% more. Why would we have a view on that?

Don't worry, I'm sure soon you won't be allowed to have a view that opposes your government or President and won't be able to hear any of our uncomfortable criticism from elsewhere. I just hope you've read The Hunger Games and The Handmaid's Tale.

I’m not an American, why would I have that problem?

You’re well on your way in the UK - the country that has imprisoned more people for what they’ve posted on Twitter than Putin’s Russia.

And I don’t waste time reading trashy fiction.

Bathingforest · 15/08/2025 22:21

Agrumpyknitter · 15/08/2025 21:35

lol. At least we don’t force 12 year olds who have been raped to have a forced birth. We still respect Womens right to have bodily autonomy in this country. With the US overturning Roe and Wade I don’t recognise what country you have become, with pastors (read right wing Christian fundamentalists) who openly preach that women need to submit to their husbands. With vile men like Tate being welcome by the US. With Trump forcing law firms, universities to submit to him you don’t have much freedom of speech either. Oh and at least none of us will become bankrupt when we need healthcare in this country.

OK, so you do not see the many 12 year old girls raped here by the gangs and nobody doing anything about it....like really, where is the better part in this? A thread clearly about rivals the UK and the USA

Bananaandmangosmoothie · 15/08/2025 22:18

VaseofViolets · 15/08/2025 21:33

Of course it’s not, don’t be so silly. When you voted Conservative and ended up with Labour, do you suddenly start believing you live in a communist state because you don’t like Labour policies and didn’t vote for them?

There are people on Mumsnet that all but say this.