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To think that the USA is a dictatorship now?

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spoonbillstretford · 15/08/2025 20:24

Trump appears to have ultimate power. Who can challenge him? Who controls him? Presidents should not be dictating what drug companies charge for medicines on a whim, or indeed any other goods, at the drop of a hat. He says jump and the US says "How High?" What on earth have you done to yourselves and the world to let this evil, thick, orange toddler clown represent you? What the hell were you thinking?

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SpryUmberZebra · 15/08/2025 23:57

OneNeatBlueOrca · 15/08/2025 23:56

Is this just a rant about weight loss injections?

Yes it is, her Monjuro will be more expensive therefore he is a dictator 😂

OneNeatBlueOrca · 15/08/2025 23:56

spoonbillstretford · 15/08/2025 20:24

Trump appears to have ultimate power. Who can challenge him? Who controls him? Presidents should not be dictating what drug companies charge for medicines on a whim, or indeed any other goods, at the drop of a hat. He says jump and the US says "How High?" What on earth have you done to yourselves and the world to let this evil, thick, orange toddler clown represent you? What the hell were you thinking?

Is this just a rant about weight loss injections?

SpryUmberZebra · 15/08/2025 23:55

spoonbillstretford · 15/08/2025 23:49

It's just one example, I could pick many. It's something that affects me. This is something that affects millions of people far worse than me because of a frivolous decision, and a great example of how Trump coughs and a massive powerful pharmaceutical company jumps. If you can't see that as a microcosm and a good deal more than solipsism then you need to take your head from up your arse.

And I hardly ever start threads. I can start one about what the hell I like without your permission, and I don't need to check off a list of every other thing Trump has done before commenting on this issue.

Again what is dictatorial about it?

Pharmaceutical companies charge Americans way more than people in other countries and he is forcing them to stop ripping up Americans yet you are upset that it is dictatorial because you have to pay more 😂

How is it a frivolous decision? A decision aimed at stopping millions of Americans being ripped off and treated unfairly is frivolous 😂what a joker.

TooBigForMyBoots · 15/08/2025 23:55

Anyone claiming they are scared are either illegal immigrants or idiotic scaremongers.

No, they're not. Only the deluded and naive are not worried atm.Sad

LemonCatsHat · 15/08/2025 23:54

VaseofViolets · 15/08/2025 23:50

You did misconstrue my meaning, but I accept the apology.

‘Are you now saying’ implies I’m changing my position - which I’m not. What difference does it make whether I personally support or approve of him? I’m not an American. My late husband was - I’ve lived there - who cares what I personally think?

So you’re not going to acknowledge all the statistics etc then?

You’ve ignored everything that anyone, including myself, has said to you if you can’t froth at it. Anything balanced or factual that anyone has responded to you you have absolutely ignored.

It amuses me when people shout loudly and think it covers the fact they are actually saying absolutely nothing, no coherent arguments, avoiding anyone who actually provides information and ignores direct questions. We can still see your empty arguments.

Anyway, it’s bed time for me, good night.

Ihateslugs · 15/08/2025 23:51

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 15/08/2025 21:29

I was told a few days ago by someone who was travelling to Washington soon that they check your phone as you enter the country to see if you have any anti- Trump stuff on your social media. If you do they can and will refuse entry. So they are going to set themselves up with a completely blank phone. I was 😮

Well, I have just got back from the US and that really did not happen! I went through customs to enter the US without any questions about my phone, just the usual checks of passport and ESTA. The customs guy was very pleasant and had a very dry humour which made us laugh. No issues at all coming home either.

LemonCatsHat · 15/08/2025 23:51

Momtotwokids · 15/08/2025 23:48

Why do they care. They don't live in the US. Great post

Because everyone should be interested in world politics. Because how other countries behave affects us all. Because America is influential. Because we should care about the citizens of other countries.

Because just because things aren’t good in the U.K. doesn’t negate the bad things in America. That posters argument is a stupid and baseless one. Of course we should all care. All the time. It’s not a great post at all.

VaseofViolets · 15/08/2025 23:50

MuckFusk · 15/08/2025 23:46

It was implied when you praised him for getting things done, but if I misconstrued that I apologize. To clarify, are you now saying you do not personally support or approve of Trump and his administration?

You did misconstrue my meaning, but I accept the apology.

‘Are you now saying’ implies I’m changing my position - which I’m not. What difference does it make whether I personally support or approve of him? I’m not an American. My late husband was - I’ve lived there - who cares what I personally think?

spoonbillstretford · 15/08/2025 23:49

Noodledog · 15/08/2025 23:42

Great thread OP. I love that while you furiously denounce Trump for being a fascist ending democracy, what has actually really got you riled up is ...the price of your weight loss jabs going up.

Sums up our "progressive" liberal left in their solipsistic complacency.

It's just one example, I could pick many. It's something that affects me. This is something that affects millions of people far worse than me because of a frivolous decision, and a great example of how Trump coughs and a massive powerful pharmaceutical company jumps. If you can't see that as a microcosm and a good deal more than solipsism then you need to take your head from up your arse.

And I hardly ever start threads. I can start one about what the hell I like without your permission, and I don't need to check off a list of every other thing Trump has done before commenting on this issue.

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Nagginthenag · 15/08/2025 23:49

'His ass belongs to Russia yet the so called Russiagate has been proven to be a hoax by the democrats.'

Did you see the interview where Putin confirmed Russian involvement in the US election? The interview that was tampered with by the White House, removing that nugget?

Edit - spag

Franpie · 15/08/2025 23:48

SamPM · 15/08/2025 21:22

I live in the US and its not a dictatorship. Many of us are quite happy with Trump. The UK elected Starmer who is the most incompetent and worthless PM in my lifetime. You should be worrying more about your loss of freedom of speech and civil liberties, the two-tier justice system you have, the crumbling NHS and the overwhelming increase in crime rate and unfettered illegal immigration. I no longer recognize the UK when I go back and definitely do not feel safe. But yes, by all means, have a superior smug dig at Trump and those that voted for him.

The UK elected Starmer who is the most incompetent and worthless PM in my lifetime.

I mean, I’m not the biggest Starmer fan, but I think you’ve gone too far… I’m sure you’re old enough to have been alive for the Truss days!

Momtotwokids · 15/08/2025 23:48

SamPM · 15/08/2025 21:22

I live in the US and its not a dictatorship. Many of us are quite happy with Trump. The UK elected Starmer who is the most incompetent and worthless PM in my lifetime. You should be worrying more about your loss of freedom of speech and civil liberties, the two-tier justice system you have, the crumbling NHS and the overwhelming increase in crime rate and unfettered illegal immigration. I no longer recognize the UK when I go back and definitely do not feel safe. But yes, by all means, have a superior smug dig at Trump and those that voted for him.

Why do they care. They don't live in the US. Great post

MuckFusk · 15/08/2025 23:46

VaseofViolets · 15/08/2025 23:36

I don’t support him, where did I say that? Perhaps you could point out where I said that. I’m not even American. I said I could see why he appealed to people. I can also understand why others dislike him. I don’t like him, and I don’t like rape gangs. Where’s the hypocrisy?

It was implied when you praised him for getting things done, but if I misconstrued that I apologize. To clarify, are you now saying you do not personally support or approve of Trump and his administration?

LemonCatsHat · 15/08/2025 23:46

VaseofViolets · 15/08/2025 23:43

Oh, it’s because it’s the law

Never any question in your mind that the law could be wrong, or misguided.

I guess gay folks persecuted back in the day should have just followed the law…

When’s it ever been wrong?

Do you mean the same persecuted gay folks who might lose the right to legal marriage in America and as a result may face more persecution again?

VaseofViolets · 15/08/2025 23:43

spoonbillstretford · 15/08/2025 23:37

If the lyrics also broke the law then yes. Some music lyrics are racist, misogynistic and homophobic, just because it's in a song it doesn't make it ok. I'm sure the grieving family were rather unimpressed. With freedom of expression comes responsibility. And you were entirely wrong about the sentence. Comparing that example to what Putin gets up to in and out of Russia is nonsensical.

Oh, it’s because it’s the law

Never any question in your mind that the law could be wrong, or misguided.

I guess gay folks persecuted back in the day should have just followed the law…

When’s it ever been wrong?

Noodledog · 15/08/2025 23:42

Great thread OP. I love that while you furiously denounce Trump for being a fascist ending democracy, what has actually really got you riled up is ...the price of your weight loss jabs going up.

Sums up our "progressive" liberal left in their solipsistic complacency.

spoonbillstretford · 15/08/2025 23:41

VaseofViolets · 15/08/2025 23:33

It really isn’t. I know you’d like to believe the multicultural fantasy, some of us prefer to live in the real world. Other European countries keep the statistics you refer to. The UK doesn’t. I wonder why?

It's not a multicultural fantasy, it's a multicultural world we all live in, whether you like it or not.

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MuckFusk · 15/08/2025 23:39

VaseofViolets · 15/08/2025 23:33

It really isn’t. I know you’d like to believe the multicultural fantasy, some of us prefer to live in the real world. Other European countries keep the statistics you refer to. The UK doesn’t. I wonder why?

To clarify, are you actually saying rape is not prevalent in every country and every culture? Because that would be what is known as a lie. I really hope you didn't just tell a bald-faced lie.
If you have the stats you refer to, show them. If not, you have nothing.

LemonCatsHat · 15/08/2025 23:38

VaseofViolets · 15/08/2025 23:33

It really isn’t. I know you’d like to believe the multicultural fantasy, some of us prefer to live in the real world. Other European countries keep the statistics you refer to. The UK doesn’t. I wonder why?

Here are the British statistics you claim we don’t keep:

https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/rapestatisticsbrokendownbyethnicgroup

I also read a report that said a third of rapes are committed by migrants in the U.K. that means two-thirds are committed by non-migrants. I hope that helps.

spoonbillstretford · 15/08/2025 23:37

VaseofViolets · 15/08/2025 23:22

A warning not be so fucking stupid and horrible?

Her friend died - she posted the lyrics of his favourite song as a tribute to him - and you think her punishment was fitting?

You’re out of your mind.

If the lyrics also broke the law then yes. Some music lyrics are racist, misogynistic and homophobic, just because it's in a song it doesn't make it ok. I'm sure the grieving family were rather unimpressed. With freedom of expression comes responsibility. And you were entirely wrong about the sentence. Comparing that example to what Putin gets up to in and out of Russia is nonsensical.

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Theresealindseyillbetyou · 15/08/2025 23:37

The UK has a lack of free speech.. really?

This coming from an administration that kicks journalists out of the White House press room if a tricky or probing question is asked.

Anything reported that doesn't meet US Government approval is deemed fake news.

That hick fucker Vance criticism of Scottish abortion clinics having buffer zones to protect users from religious zealots and that people couldn't have private prayer in their homes. Where the fuck did that come from.

VaseofViolets · 15/08/2025 23:36

MuckFusk · 15/08/2025 23:33

I also think it's massively hypocritical for you to complain about rape while indicating you support an adjudicated rapist who was thick as thieves with Epstein. Doesn't the cognitive dissonance make your head hurt?

I don’t support him, where did I say that? Perhaps you could point out where I said that. I’m not even American. I said I could see why he appealed to people. I can also understand why others dislike him. I don’t like him, and I don’t like rape gangs. Where’s the hypocrisy?

LemonCatsHat · 15/08/2025 23:35

VaseofViolets · 15/08/2025 23:33

It really isn’t. I know you’d like to believe the multicultural fantasy, some of us prefer to live in the real world. Other European countries keep the statistics you refer to. The UK doesn’t. I wonder why?

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/debunkingthemythofimmigrantsandcrime.pdf

Granted it’s not the UK and not rape-specific, but it’s interesting all the same.

MuckFusk · 15/08/2025 23:35

BloodandGlitter · 15/08/2025 23:21

Why are you all supporting a rapist? Grim.
If nothing else the man is a liar and a rapist.
Campaigns on releasing the Epstein files and then realised he was in there, so now they don't exist either.
There are a disturbing amount of powerful Republican Party members being locked up for child abuse right now too.
Tariffs on everything making it incredibly hard for people to run their businesses but selling it as America doesn't pay them! Stupid.
I wonder less at the lack of IQ and more at the lack of compassion of people who support rapist Donald Trump.

Apparently they don't care about white rapists. They just use rape to whip up anti-immigrant sentiment. Total hypocrites.

SpryUmberZebra · 15/08/2025 23:35

TooBigForMyBoots · 15/08/2025 23:31

Just so I'm clear. You're saying that the POTUS and Prince Andrew were friends of the notorious sex trafficker and rapist, Jeffrey Epstein, and regularly indulged in his "hospitality". Right?

Unfortunately trafficking, rape, child sex abuse and cruelty to women is rife all over the planet. It is seen as the disgusting cancer on society that it is, by right-minded people.

Despite that, America voted for an abusive bully, knowing that he was a multiple sex offender, liar, probable rapist, failed and corrupt businessman whose ass belongs to Russia.🤯

Hahahahaha you can continue to extrapolate and make shit up as much as you want, failed businesses man yet he is more successful than you are 😂

His ass belongs to Russia yet your European leaders admit that he is the only one who can help end the war in Ukraine 😂

His ass belongs to Russia yet the so called Russiagate has been proven to be a hoax by the democrats.

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