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Mum demanding payments each month

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Lifeisinshambles · 15/08/2025 15:24

At 17, I moved out of home. This was due to constant, every single day of my childhood, verbal and physical fights. It cooled a little after I moved out, but they got more, almost spiteful? I believe they felt affronted that ‘I’ had caused social services to become involved (they kicked me out so I stayed at a friends house, I told them what happened, and they told their social worker), and therefore never really forgave me for that, even though they made it seem like they had for the most part.
Since then, when I had absolutely zero money, was living on my own, and to be honest I still felt like a child, I would have to end up borrowing small loans from my mum, such as £10-£20 here and there for food shopping until the end of the month.
From there, due to having pay back more and more each month but my income not increasing, I have ended up in a situation where the debt has continually risen. She is now demanding £400 a month from me, my current wage is £800. It used to be £200, which would then of course still leave me short for the month so by the end of it I would have ended up having to borrow more again to get food shopping etc. I’m not sure why it has suddenly gone up to £400 from £200? Basically, it’s an endless cycle that has been going for years, of me not being able to afford to pay that first £20 back and still make money stretch for that month simultaneously, and hence never releasing myself of the debt.
She has recently, in the last 3 years or so, come into a lot of money from various sources all at one time. I’m not sure on specifics but she has at least £150k+, and will soon be getting her share of another £400k+.
I have told her I simply cannot afford to pay her £400 a month, and how will I make it through the month with less than half of my wages left?
She is threatening to cut off contact, and I assume will forever more talk bad about me to the rest of my family.
AIBU, or is she?

OP posts:
CatAsstrophe · 15/08/2025 16:36

Jollyhockeystickss · 15/08/2025 16:21

You are an adult and there are always 2 sides to a story, you both sound as bad as each other, if you are paying back £400 month you must owe her a lot, its not her job to keep you or lend you money, you need either a better job or another job you can do weekends and evenings(yes been there done that) you need to stop borrowing money, get a loan from your bank and pay your mum back and dont borrow any more from her , its seems youve come on here looking for sympathy expecting your mum just to give you money , thats not how life works

Are you the OP's 'mother' ?

Lifeisinshambles · 15/08/2025 16:35

Cranberryavocado · 15/08/2025 16:31

You don't owe her a penny. She sounds awful.
Sorry OP. My dad still gives me money noe and I 42 and has never once asked for it back large amounts agreed like a house deposit where it was agreed to give it back after time or something like that maybe an agreement is made.
But 20 quids here and there for food.. I would write these off to my kids the same as my parents did for me when I was younger.

She has specifically told me that she wouldn’t give me money for a rental flat deposit etc if I had asked

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Clearinguptheclutter · 15/08/2025 16:34

This is nuts
so she doesn’t have any proof that you owe her anything at all and you keep paying her?

stop it. Now. And if she goes NC so be it. She is financially abusive.

chaosmaker · 15/08/2025 16:33

@Lifeisinshambles have you had any counselling about your childhood? It might help in terms of cutting her out of your life.

Babapapathepinkone · 15/08/2025 16:32

Jollyhockeystickss · 15/08/2025 16:21

You are an adult and there are always 2 sides to a story, you both sound as bad as each other, if you are paying back £400 month you must owe her a lot, its not her job to keep you or lend you money, you need either a better job or another job you can do weekends and evenings(yes been there done that) you need to stop borrowing money, get a loan from your bank and pay your mum back and dont borrow any more from her , its seems youve come on here looking for sympathy expecting your mum just to give you money , thats not how life works

Jog on you nasty piece of work

Cranberryavocado · 15/08/2025 16:31

You don't owe her a penny. She sounds awful.
Sorry OP. My dad still gives me money noe and I 42 and has never once asked for it back large amounts agreed like a house deposit where it was agreed to give it back after time or something like that maybe an agreement is made.
But 20 quids here and there for food.. I would write these off to my kids the same as my parents did for me when I was younger.

BauhausOfEliott · 15/08/2025 16:28

Your mother abused you through your childhood, effectively abandoned you before you were even an adult by throwing you out at 17, and she is still abusing you now, emotionally and financially.

Seriously, do not give your mother another penny of your money.

Have you had any counselling or therapy to work through the way you feel? You are being abused and cheated out of money. Over three years, I frankly doubt that the money you 'borrowed' even added up to more than two hundred quid IN TOTAL if it was the odd £10-20 here or there, let alone £400 a month. Your mother is seriously controlling and abusing you - what she's doing is akin to loan sharking, which is illegal. Seriously, you need some help in understanding how horrifically you're being treated and you need to cut this awful woman out of your life. None of this - really, none - is even remotely normal or acceptable behaviour from your mother. She's a fucking monster.

Lifeisinshambles · 15/08/2025 16:28

FortyDegreeDay · 15/08/2025 16:26

OP you owe this woman nothing. She’s doing this as a way to exert control over you as you no longer live under her roof. You need to stop this now otherwise it will continue on forever. You don’t need to feel guilty about putting yourself first. There is no legal obligation to pay this woman anything. X

My boyfriend has been saying this! That she is angry about everything that happened with me moving out etc

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IndyNial · 15/08/2025 16:27

You poor thing. I want to give you a hug. 20 is still so young. She sounds more like a bank than your mum. Though a bank might have a little bit more flexibility. X

CatAsstrophe · 15/08/2025 16:27

Lifeisinshambles · 15/08/2025 15:37

I would feel awful and would never stop blaming myself

Therapy will make you realise that the 'blame' is all on her - for being a fucking shit parent. It won't cost £400 quid a month either and there will be long term benefit from therapy, where as there's no long term benefit from being controlled and abused by your 'mother'.

I've been where you are now and can fully relate to your situation. Therapy and going 'no contact' was the best thing I ever did. My only regret is I wish I'd done it sooner!

Velmy · 15/08/2025 16:26

It's a method of control, nothing more. She knows you can't afford it, she just wants you to be beholden to her.

Also, she's stealing from you. No mother adds up £2 here and there over the years and demands it back. And you will have more than paid back the 10-20 a month by now. She can't tell you exactly what you owe because she doesn't know. She's making it up and stealing half your wages every month, then threatening to cut contact if you don't pay.

That's not a mother. That's a common and garden scumbag.

FortyDegreeDay · 15/08/2025 16:26

OP you owe this woman nothing. She’s doing this as a way to exert control over you as you no longer live under her roof. You need to stop this now otherwise it will continue on forever. You don’t need to feel guilty about putting yourself first. There is no legal obligation to pay this woman anything. X

TitaniasAss · 15/08/2025 16:21

Ah you poor lass, you shouldn't have to deal with this at all. I'm afraid I'm another one who would suggest no contact and I don't say that lightly.

I'm so sorry you're going through this.

AloeVeraAloeFred · 15/08/2025 16:21

I'm sorry you can never give her enough money, you can never do enough of what she asks, you can never be a good enough daughter for her to turn things around and become the mother you deserve. To like you and treat you kindly and not bad mouth you to everyone she knows like you're the problem. So honestly, the sooner you give up on her and stop trying to meet her on her (constantly shifting) terms, the better for you. How could your relationship be any worse than it is now, when she is transparently exploiting you for as much cash as she can get, ruining your happiness and potentially your future in the process?

You owe her nothing she owes you. She will have been creaming child benefit that she was meant to be using on your living expenses whilst she put you into debt for paying those expenses yourself. Then she's made up a punitive interest regime which frankly, sounds illegal.

Stop paying her, don't explain and don't engage. Let her do her worst. She's a pathetic person and you are strong. Spend the money on a therapist instead x

Jollyhockeystickss · 15/08/2025 16:21

You are an adult and there are always 2 sides to a story, you both sound as bad as each other, if you are paying back £400 month you must owe her a lot, its not her job to keep you or lend you money, you need either a better job or another job you can do weekends and evenings(yes been there done that) you need to stop borrowing money, get a loan from your bank and pay your mum back and dont borrow any more from her , its seems youve come on here looking for sympathy expecting your mum just to give you money , thats not how life works

Sagedragon · 15/08/2025 16:20

She would be doing you a favour if she did cut contact tbh, she sounds awful.

Trickedbyadoughnut · 15/08/2025 16:19

It's sickening that a mother would abuse her child in this way. I'm so sorry.

I would try to do some reading on toxic and abusive parents/family members. You need to be free of her and you deserve to be free of her.

Sa11yCinnamon · 15/08/2025 16:19

Did she give you the money in cash, or transfer it? If it was transferred you can go through your bank statements and work out exactly how much, if it was cash it was on her to keep an exact record.

That said I completely agree with everyone else saying don't give her another penny. From what you've said about the amounts borrowed, it sounds like you'd have more than paid her back by now. She doesn't need your money and she's trying to control you/play some weird games.

You've had some great advice about support available, it might seem really scary but you're absolutely strong enough to live without her xx

cocoromo · 15/08/2025 16:19

Sounds like no contact would be a blessing - move on and leave her behind.

JustFeedMeCake · 15/08/2025 16:18

OP stop paying her. I assume the YABU 8% are accidental votes. Cut all contact.

jen337 · 15/08/2025 16:18

Sounds more like a fucking loan shark than a mother. Legally she has no way of making you pay as so I guess it comes down to how much you want to maintain the relationship if you think she’d really cut you off. I suspect she needs you on the hook to her somehow in a dysfunctional self serving way, so is just bluffing. But if I were you I’d be going NC with her anyway.

Shatteredallthetimelately · 15/08/2025 16:18

This is a crazy situation to be in.
How can you possibly ever be out of her dept if you don't know how much it's alleged you own her?

I realise it's been some years and you've already been giving her money but you do need to ask her what the final total is and get her to explain how she's come to it or try yourself and work out how much you think it is.

She can't just double what she expects you to pay without question and it's for you to ask those questions, surely if you do owe her anything the amount would have gone down as you've already paid what sounds like a substantial amount already.

This is a way of her controlling you, and extracting money from someone to boot is a despicable way of doing so.

This shouldn't be left for her to decide, or to continue, it needs sorting once and for all she can't keep taking from you.

If you feel you owe nothing again tell her.
You're 20 years old how long are you prepared to pay out?
There's no way I'd be paying anyone any money for the rest of my days just because they demanded it.

You've moved out, at quite a young ish age and it certainly won't be your fault if she cuts contact, as for worrying about what gossip she'll spill I'd imagine most people know what she's like so don't give that a second thought.

EuclidianGeometryFan · 15/08/2025 16:18

PoshDuckQuarkQuark · 15/08/2025 16:09

@Lifeisinshambles you need to see this as a business transaction.

Work out what you borrowed and what you paid back with approximate dates. Use a spreadsheet. Make it balance so if shows you have paid off the debt.

Then WRITE to her:

"Dear Mum,
Between <date> and <date> I borrowed the total sum of £XXX from you. Since then, I have paid back the sum of £XXX, therefore all outstanding debt has been paid off and no further money is owed. Best wishes, YOU".

If she responds, ask her to prove the further debt and send a copy of the spreadsheet.

Don't pay any more. Just stop.

As you moved out, did the child benefit get paid to you?

No, it is not like a business transaction. DON'T write to your mother about it.
Just stop paying her and tell her you won't be paying her any more.
She is financially abusing you.
That is all.

Lifeisinshambles · 15/08/2025 16:18

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 15/08/2025 16:07

It sounds unlikely that you owe her any money at all! If she can’t show you the debt, or even tell you how much it supposedly is, she’s not going to get far with any sort of small claim.

She is indeed acting like a loan shark, as people have said. Adding ridiculous interest or random amounts to this “debt” in order to keep you in the hook forever.

If you moved out 3 years ago at 17, you must still be only 20? That’s still incredibly young. Give yourself a break as you’re doing so well.

You need to tell her that you consider the loans repaid. I do think your best course of action would be to cut her off entirely.

Do you have any scope to move? How are you housed at the moment, is it a private landlord or through the local authority?

Edit - also, when you say physical fights, do you mean physical abuse on you, or fights between your parents? It sounds like you haven’t fully recognised this as abuse, and that’s why you’re somehow still looking for their “forgiveness” for telling the authorities- when it’s they who have done the only wrong in this situation.

Edited

Thank you.
I don’t want to be too outing but I am privately housed via work.
I mean both types.

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PorridgeAndSyrup · 15/08/2025 16:18

Lifeisinshambles · 15/08/2025 15:29

I am 20 years old.
I don’t know the exact figure, she has told me it’s a build up of different £2’s and various different small payments from when I first left home, for eg before I had received my first payment from universal credit (had just moved into a supported accommodation, was very young and not in a good place at the time, I got a job soon after!) and needed to get some food shopping (just bread, milk etc!! Nothing fancy)

You're TWENTY???!! Christ. If you were 30 or 40 then it would be borderline, but given how young you are, YA definitely NBU. She's expecting you to pay you back money THAT SHE SHOULD HAVE GIVEN YOU ANYWAY at those ages. That's what parents do. They support their children until they are able to be independent (which, for most people these days, is some time in their 20s). Sure, some parents might charge their young adult children some "rent" or "keep", either because the parent genuinely needs it to pay for the things they provide for the child, or to help the child become independent, but this isn't either of those situations. She is causing you real hardship here. She isn't doing it to teach you anything, and she doesn't need the money, she's just using it as another way to control you. It is abuse.

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