Why is everyone hating on London

We know what it means. It's just that using it makes adults sound like they are 14 year-olds on TikTok. Yes, language evolves, but grown-ups using teen-speak is and always was cringeworthy!

Absolutely NOTHING to do with the fact he's Muslim and everything to do with the fact he's a useless, money-grabbing idiot, who is destroying our once great capital city fron the inside out and doesn't remotely seem to care!

"Hating" something is a feeling which can be done with no outward sign.
"Hating on" something is the expression of hatred either by speaking or writing, not merely the feeling of it.
Therefore in this context the "on" is not redundant, the OP is commenting on the increase in people online expressing their dislike of London.
Language evolves. I remember when I was a child old people complained about the use of the word "gay" to mean homosexual, but it is normal usage now and the world didn't end.

It’s too crowded now. The tubes don’t run reliably now. There are beggars on the tube. There are sexual harassers on the tube. There are lime bikes clogging the pavements. There are people cycling on the pavements. There are people walking three or four abreast on city pavements, oblivious. There are people walking along shouting into their phones avidly. There are people cycling along shouting into their phones avidly. There are people mopeding around shouting into their phones avidly. None of these shouting people are speaking English. There are men loitering outside shops, with assessing unfriendly gazes. There are scams being run on our central London streets with groups of men harassing tourists as if you were in a Souk.
Absolutely nothing if this is enjoyable, in any way whatsoever. Hence sane people used to better times “hate on” the massive downslide in quality of life.

I mean, we'll probably learn to cope wthout you.

Yeah, the idea that people are envious is really bizarre to me. I wouldn't raise my children in London for all the money in the World.

@InOverMyHead84 it probably wouldn’t resonate with many in my original home town of Mansfield - given that I’ve never been anywhere quite so crap , down at heel and full of aggressive arseholes in recent years - I’m not sure I necessarily take ‘not resonating’ as a good thing .

I don't think this thread is necessarily about people who don't happen to want to visit London though. It's about being actively negative and derogatory about a particular area. Often based on stereotypes.

I don't particularly want to visit Lincolnshire, say, but it wouldn't occur to me to post about it being awful or the people unfriendly etc. Just because I might not want to visit or live there.

Funny. I've had the perception of London being somewhere to avoid since about 1998. The economy has nothing to do with it.

When times are hard (and right now a lot of people are living in poverty, with unaffordable housing, a difficult job market etc) it’s natural to look for someone to blame. It’s natural to point the finger and say ‘they’ve got more it’s unfair’.

London abuse has become the acceptable prejudice.
Unfortunately xenophobia and Islamophobia aren’t far behind at the moment.

What confuses me is on the one hand MN tells us London is so dangerous and if you raise your kids there they’ll end up ketamine fuelled, knife wielding gang members but at the same time were also told the schools are apparently unfairly advantaged and get the best of everything, literally snatching resources from schools around the country.

I can’t work out if we’re hated or envied. Or both, Mostly I can’t really get excited about it.

I think, OP, if you see lots of 'hate' about London on your social media it probably has a lot to do with the algorithms on the apps - I don't see it at all.

I visit London as a tourist and for work meetings and conferences. I enjoy the experience when I visit for pleasure but wouldn't want to live there simply because it's too big and busy for me - I live and work in a small city in the north.

A previous poster said: I'm always shocked when I leave london about how would run down some places are.
I work with children in the NHS in one of the most deprived regions in the UK. My problem with London is not the place or people but how London-centric large organisations and government are. I have spent years fighting for the children here to have resources similar to those in London. I suspect the same is true for those working in local government, transport etc.

Come back any time. We'd love to have you ❤️

I also don't think it's true tbh. We're just friendly in a different way. You move to London and consider yourself (say) French still. Absolutely fine. But also you think of yourself as a Londoner? That's fine too. You're a Londoner now. I'm pretty sure as a Londoner if I moved to one of the villages in Cornwall or the Yorkshire Dales I'd ALWAYS be an outsider.

No, it's not, hating and hating on are not the same thing.

There are plenty of northerners here! I am originally from the north (west), my husband I met here is from the north (east) and two of my closest friends are from Leeds. It’s a real mix. Which I guess a lot of us here like. I am glad you had a good trip!

I think the reasons are many - some have lived there in the past and don’t like the changes - I must admit I lived there 1995 to 2000 and then again for a year in 2011 and yep I have fond memories of Camden stables, the proper street market in soho and the ‘pand a pand ‘ fruit and veg sellers, Notting Hill market when you could actually move , Kensington market , gigs at the Astoria etc - however I still go a fair bit for work and am in your neck of the woods and still thoroughly enjoy shopping in Kingston, Richmond park, the pubs in Richmond, steins on the river - I would have no problems moving back there and we live in Bath so it’s not as if I live somewhere crappy. A lot of the people who say it never actually go beyond Oxford st or central London - a lot no longer have the energy for it or have lost any tolerance of a busy hassle place - a lot don’t like noise or queues or the feeling of no one knowing you - it’s a perception - I certainly wouldn’t want to anywhere I think is mega urban and not leafy I thoroughly admit - so for me it’s the posh leafy areas or not at all - I think I went to central London 3 times when we lived there in 2011 .

It's just a current slang phrase.

Thank you! I wanted to say that. The ‘on’ is redundant!

I love London.

I have never seen any crime and feel completely comfortable walking through large swathes of it. I go there when I need a break from the monotony of living in a town. There is so much more to do and see and things to be a part of. I often end up in London or Oxford to do things. I’ve gone to Central London and just walked around for hours with no bother, no sight of crime, just soaking in the different vibes of areas.

People have been lovely to me and I enjoy all the different markets and food on offer. The most impolite are often tourists ime, and I don’t need the “good morning” greeting some feel are nice/polite and what makes a place “friendly”. I grew up in such places and the friendliness was just a veneer of people being nice to your face and talking about you behind your back. Not saying that is all such places.

I often simply want to get from point A to Point B without interruption.

How gracious of you.

As it was northern English born I was conditioned to not like London and only visited a few times. We went last week to the all night prom and stayed on for a bit. We really enjoyed it and never felt unsafe or threatened. We obviously weren't on council estates at midnight, but didn't restrict our visit to just traditional tourist areas either. I thought it had alot of energy, people were surprisingly riendly for what everyone was saying. Busy and expensive but that's any capital city. Loads to do and alot at very little or no cost and the parks were well maintained and felt safe. The diversity just felt part of the city. As a northerner it obviously pains me to say it, but we liked London and are planning to go back soon.

Ha ha yes! London is an unfriendly city cos two peope from there moved to my village and don't talk to me.

Well, I don't identify with small-town racists, but I acknowledge they are part of "my country."

And, before you start, I am not suggesting you are a small-town racist, but a small-town racist would say what you have said.