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Person I knew a long time ago wants us to give her son a bit of a holiday - would you?

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Rallentanda · 15/08/2025 14:27

20+ years ago I knew a couple - my dh worked with her dh. We got along well, there was a whole gang of us, we were in our twenties and it was fun. We'd do holidays together in various combinations. Dinners at each other's houses, days out, normal friendship stuff.

Then we all hit our 30s and started having children, and as often happens, cracks started to show in our friendship. I found her to be a very smug mummy type. She'd say things that made me realise that she felt very superior to us on the whole. Her dh at this point got fired from his job. We'd realised a couple of years prior to that, that he was an awful person, and what we thought of as biting humour was just plain nastiness. Such is life, sometimes. Friendships wane.

They moved and we moved and we now live in different countries. Her dh hasn't been able to reliably hold down work, all his fault and she makes excuses for him. She and I have barely exchanged emails in the past 18 or so years, only a couple of messages as she realised we'd know the circumstances of his latest exit from his job; or a jokey line on Facebook.

Suddenly I get a message from her asking us to put up her dc - at a time of our convenience - for a few days in the autumn, as the dc is coming a long way and would love to be shown around the city.

I am kind of gobsmacked. I don't think IBU to say no. But I wondered if other people would do this?

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ormiwtbte · 16/08/2025 14:38

budgiegirl · 16/08/2025 14:22

I would have guessed they were American. It seems quite a normal thing to do for them. We've met several Americans while on holiday in other countries, often only chatting to them for an hour or two in a bar, and they almost always give us their details and say that we must stay with them if we are ever visiting their area. And they genuinely seemed to mean it. My parents met an American man while on holiday in Switzerland, and he invited himself over to stay with them for a few days, and, to my surprise, they agreed and he came to stay.

I get why you don't want to host him, and I probably wouldn't do it either. But I don't think it's particularly cheeky, it's just a cultural difference

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This is what I think too. I immediately thought American.
If you don't want to host them, that's fine, but I don't think it's particularly cheeky (even though it might seem like that to Brits accustomed to British culture) because it's something Americans tend to do, also offering others accommodation in return too.
Either don't reply or just reply and say that you don't have space for him to stay, small home etc (they might not realize that British homes tend to be smaller), but you could meet up with him for a meal or something if you want to do that and if you don't, don't!

Saladbar · 16/08/2025 14:36

budgiegirl · 16/08/2025 14:22

I would have guessed they were American. It seems quite a normal thing to do for them. We've met several Americans while on holiday in other countries, often only chatting to them for an hour or two in a bar, and they almost always give us their details and say that we must stay with them if we are ever visiting their area. And they genuinely seemed to mean it. My parents met an American man while on holiday in Switzerland, and he invited himself over to stay with them for a few days, and, to my surprise, they agreed and he came to stay.

I get why you don't want to host him, and I probably wouldn't do it either. But I don't think it's particularly cheeky, it's just a cultural difference

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It’s not a cultural difference. I have met Brits that have done this whilst travelling. It’s not a British thing then by default is it, more of a cheeky or people who travel thing. Having lived in the U.S. it’s def not the norm.

Saladbar · 16/08/2025 14:33

I’d not even reply. Half my fam (from my Dad) are American and this is weird and not the norm! It’s not a cultural thing, it’s a they are rude and weird thing. I live abroad and would not even reply to this!

NImumconfused · 16/08/2025 14:28

Pluvia · 15/08/2025 15:26

Yes, we have hosted a number of young people over the years. We live somewhere where people pay a small fortune to come for a holiday and if people are travelling round or doing a gap year we can usually accommodate them for a couple of nights. I echo what @mondaytosunday says. When I was young several people very kindly put me up when I was travelling around and it's good to feel I can offer something in return. And I learn things from the youngsters.

My concern would be that you sound disapproving and affronted, OP. It sounds as if you don't generally host. All those years and you are still full of resentment and disdain for your former friend. I'd love to hear her pov about how your relationship foundered. So if you can't park that negativity, say no to the son.

And my advice to anyone offering accommodation is to be really clear about date of arrival and departure. 'You can stay for three nights, from Friday night through to Monday morning. I can take you to the station for between 9 and 10am on Monday morning.' I've been caught out by a couple of Australian guests who asked to stay for a couple of nights and then dug in for a couple of weeks.

My mum's Australian visitor stayed for 3 months, apparently it's regarded as quite normal over there to stay with folks for extended periods.

usedtobeaylis · 16/08/2025 14:23

She's cheeky for asking but I don't think it's that relevant, it's not unheard of people to host the children of people they know tenuously from other countries. You can say no or you can say yes and it will make no difference to your relationship with her.

budgiegirl · 16/08/2025 14:22

Rallentanda · 15/08/2025 14:34

I haven't replied. I'm not sure I intend to. I find it so fucking rude.

Culture is I'm a Brit and they are American.

I would have guessed they were American. It seems quite a normal thing to do for them. We've met several Americans while on holiday in other countries, often only chatting to them for an hour or two in a bar, and they almost always give us their details and say that we must stay with them if we are ever visiting their area. And they genuinely seemed to mean it. My parents met an American man while on holiday in Switzerland, and he invited himself over to stay with them for a few days, and, to my surprise, they agreed and he came to stay.

I get why you don't want to host him, and I probably wouldn't do it either. But I don't think it's particularly cheeky, it's just a cultural difference

Motherofalittledragon · 16/08/2025 14:22

No

WoollyRosebud · 16/08/2025 14:20

No room at the inn or that doesn't work for us should do the trick

Muffinmam · 16/08/2025 14:18

What absolutely awful people they are.

Why haven’t you blocked her??

Manthide · 16/08/2025 14:17

My aunt often has random people staying at her house, she has 6 bedrooms and she loves meeting new people. She lives in a large northern city. Dd2 is now married with dc but has a large house in a central location and again always seems to have some randomer staying. I remember a few years ago they were visiting USA and they stayed at a friend of a friend's and dog sat whilst they were there (the friends of friends weren't there the whole stay).

MrsRobinsonsHandprints · 16/08/2025 14:02

I don't see asking a question as rude.

I have been asked similar due to where I live and having the space, if it works for me I say yes and if it doesn't I say no.

Only CF if they push you to answer or keep giving dates after you have said no.

TicklishMintDuck · 16/08/2025 13:44

I’d ignore or say no. No obligation, plus you don’t know what their child is like now he’s grown up. It’d be like having a stranger in your home.

Manthide · 16/08/2025 13:44

It was about 12 years ago - I think she did call them to confirm she was okay and didn't need any help.

Manthide · 16/08/2025 13:43

When dd2 was 19 she decided to go backpacking in Australia on her own. My dm had friends who had dc who lived in Australia and it was agreed if she had any issues she could contact them and they'd help out. She did get quite ill when she was there and she was going to call them but she started getting better and didn't.
It does seem a bit cheeky and as you don't like her I think I would decline as you don't want to get enmeshed in her dramas.

Loulabelle1234 · 16/08/2025 13:42

Say no, I wouldn't want to spend any time with an 18 year old I didn't know. It would be different if you were close friends.

cheezncrackers · 16/08/2025 12:50

Aspidistree · 15/08/2025 16:11

I think it's changed. It was more common in the 80s when travel was more expensive. Now we have Travelodges, Premier Inns and AirBNBs everywhere, cheaper flights. Plus people are less likely to have a guest room. The second bedroom in my parents' house was always the guest room - children were in the single bedrooms and further down the pecking order.

In the 80s there were youth hostels. There still are. Great places to meet other young, skint travellers!

LemonTwix · 15/08/2025 19:57

I’ve hosted before as a pay-it-forward for the times I stayed with random people in the 90s, including living in a motorhome on a family’s drive in LA, when I didn’t know them at all, just met their son in a backpackers.

I don’t do it any more though, the only people I have to stay now I know well. Too many poor experiences.

A friend’s Australian brother who would leave the heating on all day in summer to dry a pair of trousers, and who accused me of avoiding him (yes, I was, but for god’s sake who would point that out).

A friend’s niece and her friend who took over my house for a week, gave no kind of gift, on the contrary they bought themselves so much stuff it wouldn’t fit in their bags and they asked me to post it back to the US for them (and left no money for postage).

Someone who stayed a couple of times and when I suggested I stay with her in San Francisco gave me short shrift. I ignored her next email, years later, asking to stay in London again.

A couple more, also in no way rewarding. So I’m done with it, despite my mum pressuring me to have my cousin and his son stay, despite me not having seen cousin for decades and never met the teenage son. No!

Anyway OP, as you say you’re not even friends, just say no. The request itself isn’t that outrageous, it’s just that she’s not a good enough friend to ask it.

the5thgoldengirl · 15/08/2025 19:47

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IamtheDevilsAvocado · 15/08/2025 19:21

PS when we've had a different living situation we've been happy to host on a here's a room and a key - we'll feed you at 730pm if you're here basis.

But this has been to close friends kids. Completely different!

IamtheDevilsAvocado · 15/08/2025 19:19

Justdontknowhow · 15/08/2025 17:15

I’m a big believer in altruism , we actually did host a teenager on their gap year through a loose connection and a week turned into a 2 months....
It probably wasn’t the teenagers fault (they were 18) but they just had zero awareness about offering help or a couple of quid for food and board etc and expected lifts etc , I think it was just total lack of awareness which is probably normal for some at that age.
I’m patient and very much into helping people out in life where I can but I’m also someone who has had a very difficult background and had to drag myself up and deal with a lot of stuff alone from around 16 so I found it a lot more difficult than I thought I would to deal with the selfishness and lack of awareness……
I also was 31 with 3 very small kids so probably wasn’t the best time to host , I’ve been given zero support all my own life .
There are serious CFs in the world , for some of my inlaws it’s a lifestyle choice , constantly asking to stay in people’s houses for their holidays, constantly looking for freebies, they ask directly putting people in very awkward situations. The only way to deal with them is directly. My sil actually said “oh we’ll send dc to you as he can learn ether language and enjoy learning about the culture we live in once he’s 15 “. She was literally acting as though it was a statement, not a request. I simply said , “nope , we have our own three teens and don’t want to host another and have extra responsibility”. The arrogance… almost like she was saying it in a “he’d love to go to you and you’d love it 😂😂😂😂

Recently we had a very vague relative....someone I'm unsure I'd recognise and someone who we've never had a relationship with... Call and ask if we could host her 20 something daughter for 6 weeks so she could improve her English😂😂... It was completely out to the question as we were living in a small one bed flat and also this wasn't an emergency and we had zero r/s with the mum or daughter.

On closer questioning (when we suggested a paid host and stay arrangement relatively local to us), she assumed I was a lady of leisure and was happy to set up an immersive English programme for her daughter, naturally free of charge.... 😂😱😱 for SIX EFFING WEEKS!

caringcarer · 15/08/2025 19:15

I'd agree but put set amount of 3-4 days on the stay.

godmum56 · 15/08/2025 19:12

Justdontknowhow · 15/08/2025 17:15

I’m a big believer in altruism , we actually did host a teenager on their gap year through a loose connection and a week turned into a 2 months....
It probably wasn’t the teenagers fault (they were 18) but they just had zero awareness about offering help or a couple of quid for food and board etc and expected lifts etc , I think it was just total lack of awareness which is probably normal for some at that age.
I’m patient and very much into helping people out in life where I can but I’m also someone who has had a very difficult background and had to drag myself up and deal with a lot of stuff alone from around 16 so I found it a lot more difficult than I thought I would to deal with the selfishness and lack of awareness……
I also was 31 with 3 very small kids so probably wasn’t the best time to host , I’ve been given zero support all my own life .
There are serious CFs in the world , for some of my inlaws it’s a lifestyle choice , constantly asking to stay in people’s houses for their holidays, constantly looking for freebies, they ask directly putting people in very awkward situations. The only way to deal with them is directly. My sil actually said “oh we’ll send dc to you as he can learn ether language and enjoy learning about the culture we live in once he’s 15 “. She was literally acting as though it was a statement, not a request. I simply said , “nope , we have our own three teens and don’t want to host another and have extra responsibility”. The arrogance… almost like she was saying it in a “he’d love to go to you and you’d love it 😂😂😂😂

Did you not say "welcome to my home here are the rules"?

IamtheDevilsAvocado · 15/08/2025 19:10

Doseofreality · 15/08/2025 15:29

I would reply with “Sorry, who is that?” And when they reply, messages back again with “Think you have the wrong number”.

Or...

Hi person-I've - not-spoken- to- in- 18- years,

We can't host your unknown son in wonderful destination, as we are in process of moving to awful - place - in middle of nowhere.

We'll speak again in 18 years.

Good bye.

Dancingsquirrels · 15/08/2025 19:08

Iris2020 · 15/08/2025 15:01

I will go against the trend. It's frequently done in my circle. Have done it often for old friends, friends of friends, distant relatives we'd never met.
Have been welcomed likewise.

Have often been asked to find families to host young people in the summer, although it's increasingly difficult.

It feels such a sad, self-centred world we live in.

Agree

I would be happy to host a friend of a friend for a few days. But MN is full of people who don't socialise or put themselves out fir anyone, then moan that "the village" doesn't exist shenthey need help themselves

Scarylett · 15/08/2025 19:00

mondaytosunday · 15/08/2025 14:41

Well now. My parents moved to America and as their friends from England and Ireland had kids reaching 18 the summer before uni or taking a gap year and we were hit with several requests to put them up, sometimes for a few weeks. These would also be from friends of friends or distant cousins - people my parents may have had a very tenuous connection with.
But you know what? They usually said yes. Because they could remember venturing out at 18, thinking they knew everything but finding out actually the world can be big and lonely and a bit scary. Finding a friendly port in this storm was great. A few hot meals, a tour of the area, some words of encouragement and off the young person went, confidence somewhat restored and with the knowledge they’d made a connection.
So please do help out this young person and give them an introduction to your area. Show them a few sights, introduce them to people their age if you can, encourage them to get out on their own to explore. I bet years down the line they will remember your kindness and generosity and hopefully offer the same to the next generation.

How lovely. I have always appreciated it when a friend of a friend has extended the hand of friendship to one of my children.

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