Sister needs weight loss jabs but doesn’t qualify

My point is the rather meaningless measurement of BMI being the deciding factor. Should you be one below this then you do not qualify yet your struggles are the same save for either being a little taller and weighing a little less than your counterpart.

if people are so concerned about the risks or so in favor of its benefits then the criteria for inclusion should be looked at. The OPs sister just needs to sit back and put on some pounds to get the relief that all the overweight people are fawning over.

No she wouldn’t. Your BMI has to be in the clinically obese range to get them. Your prescription will stop if you move out of that range. I don’t know who’s most unreasonable - you or your sister.

Did you read any of OPs posts? The main reason is she isn't overweight!

The poster has also lost sight of the fact that these drugs facilitate weight loss as a side effect. Mounjaro was developed to treat type 2 diabetes.

I’m not a fatty and neither is my DH, who takes mounjaro for type 2 diabetes. And l wouldn’t countenance giving any of your own prescribed drugs to someone else. Why should weight loss drugs be any different ? And if OP is getting the drug on the NHS then she’s diverting resources that are not meant to be used in this way. One of the most ridiculous statements l’ve seen in a long time was when OP said earlier in the thread that if her sister gained another two stones she would qualify. Utterly meaningless. If she wants to use mounjaro in this way she should buy it herself. It’s available for anyone willing to take the risk of taking it it without the mandatory medical checks for NHS use.

The drugs come with risks for everyone. Currently, the risk to someone who is obese, is outweighed by the risk of obesity related illnesses. If in the future, the drug can be made safer, I’d be chuffed for anyone who struggles to maintain a healthy BMI to have access. Because I’m not a nasty, bitter cunt.

Your tone in your replies tells me everything I need to know about your attitude towards overweight people. Thank goodness op has posted this goady load of shite so that people like you can let everyone know how you feel.

If you read the countless threads on this subject every fatty becomes a doctor and declares how unsafe the drugs are for anyone (the borderline skinnies or fatties) but themselves…

Gosh there are a load of sanctimonious c*s everytime there is any post about weight loss. I'm not agreeing with the OP though but I mean the follow on comments.
I'm realising the biggest divide in this country isn't class, education, money but fat v slim!

Who has said that?

The fictional sister in this scenario can’t access the drug because currently, it isn’t prescribed for someone in her circumstance. It would be illegal for op to buy it for her. If, in the future, it could be used by someone who is a healthy bmi to make it easier for that person to maintain the healthy bmi, I’d be absolutely delighted and I can’t imagine any of the other ‘fatties’ would feel any different.

Lol

Hypnotherapy may be worth a try.

If you enable your sister with an eating disorder how will you feel about that? This is why we have doctors.

So I’m not sure of the scientific evidence but I completely disagree with the notion that slim people lose weight easier than those who are obese. If I only have 5kgs to lose that is MUCH harder to lose than an obese person who has say 40kgs to lose if we both follow the same construct… ie eat less and move more.

My sister who only restricts her calories on a plan will lose weight very easily whereas I would have to eat significantly less and exercise significantly more than I am currently to lose the last 5kgs to my goal.

It’s a bit like alcohol or drug addiction too, in that once you’ve had an addiction to a substance your neuro chemistry is changed forever. So telling an alcoholic that all they have to do is drink less and learn to moderate is futile and very bad advice. The difference of course being that we don’t need alcohol to survive but we all have to eat. Which is why obesity is such a difficult thing to break free from for good.

So you have food noise but don't believe in food noise? Strange.

The hormone you’re referring to is not only influenced by genetics - it’s also heavily triggered by obesity itself, which disregulates satiety cues, blood sugar spikes, and other factors that contribute to difficulties in losing weight. Those who have never been obese will overall have an easier time losing weight that those who have been or are obese, which is why it’s not as simple as the ‘eat less move more’ brigade would have you believe. It’s much more complex than that and it’s this ignorance of how the body responds to weight gain which fuels misinformation and judgement.

I am a huge fan of these medications for those that need it, but sadly your sister doesn't need it. She might want it, or fancy it, but neither if those is a need.

You have no idea how her body will react to the medication, and even if it works on cutting her food noise, what happens when she comes off it - the food noise could increase massively. Then she is in a WORSE position, and she will firmly believe that this medication is her "only solution", but you won't have a way to keep being her dealer. Don't start dabbling into things that you aren't qualified to deliver, this is a slippery slope that could ruin your sister's health in the long term.

Do you think everyone who takes anti-depressants is clinically depressed? How many people who are a bit blue or sad will go off and get themselves some anti-depressants in an effort to feel better and declaring themselves as depressed. It is well known that antidepressants are one of the most over prescribed and misused drugs in the world. Yet here we are…