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To think we are going to be broken into or worse

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14HoursToSaveTheEarth · 14/08/2025 23:46

Apologies for the long post but please help me to understand if I am overreacting as I have no idea how I am going to sleep tonight or ever again in this house.

DS (17) has never been able to develop friendships at school and whenever he is placed in a social setting he comes over as much younger than his real age and is so desperate to be liked and to have friends that he does have a habit of over-sharing and trusting people who he probably shouldn't. Over the last 12 months or so, since leaving school, he is spending more and more time on his phone, which has exponentially increased this risk. I am not active on social media, but as an example in just a couple of months he has developed a network of thousands of "friends" on Snapchat largely from adding random people who he has never even spoken to and then blasting them with messages. Some respond and he immediately thinks they are his friends. We have been able to protect him from some obvious trolls and catfishes, but I am worried that he is now putting us and our other DCs at risk.

By way of background, as a family we are comfortably off and we do have quite a big house with a few acres of land in the countryside, about seven miles from the nearest town. However, my DS has no concept of money, and now seems to have convinced himself that we are millionaires with lots of cash to splurge. I don't know if he really believes this or if it is part of his fictional life to make himself more popular with his online "friends". We have explained to him the reality that we studied hard and worked hard and we have been very lucky, but we are really not rich by any means.

Anyhow, tonight my DD (14) came downstairs and said that basically he has been sharing messages via Snapchat and other SM sites with loads of people in the UK and overseas telling them that we are millionaires and how we have this huge mansion full of amazing stuff. The thing that really terrifies me is that when people came back to him online and either did not believe him or asked for more information, he has been sending them the precise location of our house, which is in the middle of nowhere.

DP and I have tried to explain to him how dangerous this is, but he just thinks he is being honest with people and that we should be proud of all our stuff and he really doesn't understand why we are worried.

I do think this is all part of him trying to show off to make friends, but I am now genuinely terrified that some random people that have seen or heard about his online messages are going to pull up outside our home at any minute to help themselves to all this amazing stuff they think is in our house, and god knows what they will do when they find our younger DCs asleep in their beds.

How on earth do I get DS to stop posting these crazy messages, which are already out there and can never be taken back anyway?

So please, tell me, AIBU and this is just a teenager being a bit silly and nothing will happen, or AINBU to be scared for the safety of my family and home and this fear could continue for as long as we live in this house as those messages including our location can never be unseen by any dodgy characters that have seen them?

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LakieLady · 15/08/2025 20:13

14HoursToSaveTheEarth · 15/08/2025 12:09

We’ve spoken to specialists within our county council when he was excluded from a previous school, we’ve spoken to CAMHS, we’ve spoken to our GP; we’ve spoken to his last school. They haven’t been able to provide us with anything. We have been left totally alone.

This is shocking, OP. I wonder if it might be easier when he's 18 and comes under adult services?

I was able to get an autism assessment really easily: I went through a questionnaire with my GP, was referred to Right To Choose, and got my assessment a year later. My friend waited 6 years for an assessment for her son, she was gobsmacked that I got mine so quickly.

IamtheDevilsAvocado · 15/08/2025 19:33

Parksinyork · 15/08/2025 12:12

A private assessment is around £3.5k. While you’re not millionaires it sounds like this is within your reach. We recently made financial scarifies for this. The alternative is you ask the GP for a right to choose referal.

Unless you're in London you should be able to get a decent comprehensive assessment for less than this.

Ne Very clear What you want... I guess a combination of assessment, diagnosis and then a package of ongoing support involving his GP (obvs this will cost more than just an assessment). I'd approach the BPS and ask for clinical psychologists expert in ASD assessment.

FOJN · 15/08/2025 19:21

14HoursToSaveTheEarth · 14/08/2025 23:58

We do, and we do threaten to limit his access to apps if he does not act responsibly, which we did follow through on before he turned 16. However, if we blocked him from Snapchat or any other apps now I don't think he would be able to see this as a reasonable reaction to a behaviour that he sees as something harmless. He views social media as a way to make friends that he has never been able to do before and to cut him off from that would be excessive in his eyes.

Endangering the family is seen as a reasonable price to pay for friends in his eyes so I'm not sure his judgement should be your guide regarding what is appropriate for you to do to stop him. Take his smart phone off him and get him a dumb phone.

DaisyChain505 · 15/08/2025 19:04

14HoursToSaveTheEarth · 15/08/2025 12:57

We didn’t get a detailed explanation (he probably did) but my impression was that he was being belligerent and getting into arguments. I heard examples of days when other trainees had tried to tell him what he needed to do (in order to be helpful) and he reacted badly as they “can’t tell me what to do”. I’m sure his language to them was much stronger.

So your son was permanently excluded and you didn’t think to ask for a detailed explanation and to meet with the head teacher before he had to leave?

It sounds like you’ve buried your head about things for a long time. It’s time to pull your head out and go down the private route.

Purplecatshopaholic · 15/08/2025 14:17

Yup, time to act is now. Pay for a private assessment asap, as suggested above. You need to know what you are dealing with so you can better support your son going forward. He’s going to end up in trouble of some sort sooner rather than later if you dont. You need to protect your other children now, given what’s he’s up to on social media. Ring door bell, house alarm, etc. And yes, I hope it’s obvious now his phone needs to go until he can be helped to understand how to use it safely. So sorry op, this must be really tough, but you can take action now to start too sort things.

LadyRoughDiamond · 15/08/2025 13:56

I’m afraid it sounds like the time to ask others to intervene has now passed and so you’re going to have to take to bull by the horns, especially as he’s now out of education. Use these next few months to put some plans into action. You need to intervene asap.

First, speak to contacts/friends/your GP to get recommendations for a child psychologist. There’s clearly something going on here and you can’t help your son if you don’t know what it is. They’ll be able to carry out an initial assessment and arrange for the second opinion needed for an SEN diagnosis. You’ll have to pay for this privately if you want anything to happen within six months. From there, you can look at an EHCP.

The psychologist may also be able to work with your son to help him understand himself better and link behaviour to consequences. They can talk through strategies for managing big feelings and help with self-esteem.

Good luck OP - this is so much more than just online behaviour issues, but with the right support you can all start to build a better future for your son.

Elsvieta · 15/08/2025 13:17

14HoursToSaveTheEarth · 14/08/2025 23:58

We do, and we do threaten to limit his access to apps if he does not act responsibly, which we did follow through on before he turned 16. However, if we blocked him from Snapchat or any other apps now I don't think he would be able to see this as a reasonable reaction to a behaviour that he sees as something harmless. He views social media as a way to make friends that he has never been able to do before and to cut him off from that would be excessive in his eyes.

You don't need him to see it as reasonable; you need to tell him how things are going to be while he's under your roof. You don't need his agreement or permission. Take the phone for a week or two, then tell him he only gets it back if he assures you these kinds of posts are going to stop, and if it happens again he'll be losing it again, and stick to your word. All you're doing is teaching him the accepted "rules" of social media, such as "don't post other people's personal stuff without their consent". Which are the same for adults. If he makes RL friends, he needs to know he can't post pics of the inside of their homes without their permission, and nor can he just brush off their objections to his behaviour by saying that he thinks it's fine so case closed. It won't help him in the long term to teach him that societal restrictions on his behaviour only apply if he agrees with them.

Set the rules, stick to them, and let him "see it" how he chooses. His thoughts are his own; but in this case, you are entitled to put a stop to the behaviour.

TheLivelyViper · 15/08/2025 13:09

14HoursToSaveTheEarth · 15/08/2025 12:57

We didn’t get a detailed explanation (he probably did) but my impression was that he was being belligerent and getting into arguments. I heard examples of days when other trainees had tried to tell him what he needed to do (in order to be helpful) and he reacted badly as they “can’t tell me what to do”. I’m sure his language to them was much stronger.

Ask for a detailed explanation then, I'd email the school and ask for a meeting, and also explain your concerns regarding his likely ASD. Even though it's unlikely to get him back in, it will be good for you to have a detailed explanation of exactly what behaviour has led to this point, with pastoral and a member of SLT is who'd I'd be looking to speak with. Surely for a permanent exclusion you had a meeting with teachers and governors as well?

EmeraldShamrock000 · 15/08/2025 13:04

14HoursToSaveTheEarth · 15/08/2025 12:46

@EmeraldShamrock000 Basing his needs against others, the other children aren't your problem, all the children are their problem, they have to choose the most in need.

This is the thing we find most frustrating. He probably hasn’t been prioritised because we have worked so hard and sacrificed our other children to give him as much support as we can. DH and I have commented before that if we had let his behaviour deteriorate until he burned the school down then he would have got help, but because we didn’t we were left to cope.

You know now, so you can fix it.
Many DC get lost in the system.
My 16 y.o is okay with school, she's in a special education class, a few teenagers have opted for youth reach type training over the leaving certificate/A levels equivalent.
My DD attends a youth café I was worried at first, they're are like-minded with mad hair colours.
I'd look for alternative training and education.
He hasn't settled in mainstream.
A private assessment will guarantee him EHCP. Double check with the Council’s when you book a psychologist assessment.

cartin · 15/08/2025 13:02

Some excellent advice here OP re removing phobe/ SM access for now, ASD assessment etc so I won't repeat what others have said, but in addition I think you need to apply for an EHCP ASAP if he does 't already have one (this goes up to age 25 so not finishing when he turns 18), and talk with him about how you can help him to fulfill that need to make friends. Taking the phone away and getting a diagnosis will not take away that strong need for connection and he will keep looking for it in risky ways if he doesn't know how to do so in a safe way. He may find it easier to click with other neurodivergent people. Does he have any hobbies or interests that he could attend a group for? You might have to consider shadowing him at the group to support. If he gets a diagnosis, check your local offer as there could be groups for young people with SEN to provide more scaffolding if needed for social activities.

Mytyfy · 15/08/2025 13:01

No offence @14HoursToSaveTheEarth but I can’t believe incredibly indifferent and disinterested you are in what’s going on with your son.

14HoursToSaveTheEarth · 15/08/2025 12:57

TheLivelyViper · 15/08/2025 12:42

Why was he permanently excluded? If its due to behaviour linked to his likely ASD, I'd make sure wherever he goes next you get accommodations for his ASD even without diagnosis they should put them in place to support him and reduce the chance of another exclusion. If you can go private through right to choose after an initial GP visit is what I'd try to do.

We didn’t get a detailed explanation (he probably did) but my impression was that he was being belligerent and getting into arguments. I heard examples of days when other trainees had tried to tell him what he needed to do (in order to be helpful) and he reacted badly as they “can’t tell me what to do”. I’m sure his language to them was much stronger.

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StrongasSixpence · 15/08/2025 12:55

Immediate steps:

Take his phone.
Get a security system up with cameras and alarms.
Check doors and windows are strong and locks are anti-snap.
Call for a PCSO to come and speak to him about the risks of his actions.

Longer term:

Push as far as you can while he is still under 18 or in education for an assessment. Go privately if you need.
Look at strategies for instilling risk awareness in people with autism and autism parenting techniques.

strawlight · 15/08/2025 12:52

Have you contacted the police? Sorry if I’ve missed an update. I definitely would, just to log it in case anything happens and you need them to come out quickly and be aware of the situation.

Namechangerage · 15/08/2025 12:50

If you’re well-off, can’t you get him a private diagnosis?

I would also remove the phone - the fact that you say “he would feel this is excessive” is very telling. It’s not his call to make if he’s putting you all at risk. You’re the parent and you make the judgement.

KimHwn · 15/08/2025 12:49

Get him assessed privately! As soon as you can.

14HoursToSaveTheEarth · 15/08/2025 12:46

@EmeraldShamrock000 Basing his needs against others, the other children aren't your problem, all the children are their problem, they have to choose the most in need.

This is the thing we find most frustrating. He probably hasn’t been prioritised because we have worked so hard and sacrificed our other children to give him as much support as we can. DH and I have commented before that if we had let his behaviour deteriorate until he burned the school down then he would have got help, but because we didn’t we were left to cope.

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TheLivelyViper · 15/08/2025 12:42

14HoursToSaveTheEarth · 15/08/2025 12:40

He was on a post-16 training course but he was permanently excluded from that in February.

We are looking at options that begin in September but until then he is at home. The council couldn’t come up with any replacement options starting sooner than that.

Why was he permanently excluded? If its due to behaviour linked to his likely ASD, I'd make sure wherever he goes next you get accommodations for his ASD even without diagnosis they should put them in place to support him and reduce the chance of another exclusion. If you can go private through right to choose after an initial GP visit is what I'd try to do.

14HoursToSaveTheEarth · 15/08/2025 12:40

Growlybear83 · 15/08/2025 12:10

What is he doing at the moment? As he’s under 18 he is required to be in education, employement, or training.

He was on a post-16 training course but he was permanently excluded from that in February.

We are looking at options that begin in September but until then he is at home. The council couldn’t come up with any replacement options starting sooner than that.

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EmeraldShamrock000 · 15/08/2025 12:32

14HoursToSaveTheEarth · 15/08/2025 12:09

We’ve spoken to specialists within our county council when he was excluded from a previous school, we’ve spoken to CAMHS, we’ve spoken to our GP; we’ve spoken to his last school. They haven’t been able to provide us with anything. We have been left totally alone.

They're all trying to save money. Basing his needs against others, the other children aren't your problem, all the children are their problem, they have to choose the most in need.
Google assessments, get a GP referral.
It doesn't have to be a multidisciplinary assessment, start with a psychologist assessment, they'll advise you further.

BunnyLake · 15/08/2025 12:28

I would seriously be looking at some security if you can afford it. Security shutters on windows and doors for instance. Unfortunately your son has compromised your safety and I would be delving deeply in to what measures I can take.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 15/08/2025 12:28

Parksinyork · 15/08/2025 12:12

A private assessment is around £3.5k. While you’re not millionaires it sounds like this is within your reach. We recently made financial scarifies for this. The alternative is you ask the GP for a right to choose referal.

I don't understand why more parents won't take the private route when they can afford it, the school may refuse and NHS.

I'd sell sticks for the money as without intervention it gets worse, poor lad, so isolated from the real world.

OP just to address your concerns, I don't think you have to worry about a break in, many children on YouTube are absolute minted and show everything that they own.

Deal with his emotional issues first.

Parksinyork · 15/08/2025 12:12

14HoursToSaveTheEarth · 15/08/2025 00:14

He has never been diagnosed with any SEN despite us begging for an assessment with the vocal support of our GP and his teachers. However, his teachers have commented that they have ASD kids at school and DS's behaviour is way more extreme and ASD-typical than many of theirs.

A private assessment is around £3.5k. While you’re not millionaires it sounds like this is within your reach. We recently made financial scarifies for this. The alternative is you ask the GP for a right to choose referal.

Growlybear83 · 15/08/2025 12:10

What is he doing at the moment? As he’s under 18 he is required to be in education, employement, or training.

MrsSkylerWhite · 15/08/2025 12:10

14HoursToSaveTheEarth · 15/08/2025 12:09

We’ve spoken to specialists within our county council when he was excluded from a previous school, we’ve spoken to CAMHS, we’ve spoken to our GP; we’ve spoken to his last school. They haven’t been able to provide us with anything. We have been left totally alone.

Private.

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