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Should I just feel sorry for her or was she just using me?

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Bluegem7 · 14/08/2025 14:30

I volunteer in a charity shop and get on well with the female manager who is in her 30's. She is very open with us all about her family problems…she has no control over her wayward teenage daughter and her husband doesn't show her any love or affection. Apart from that, our relationship has been professional and based on mutual respect…. until last Sunday evening when she rang me just as I was having my meal and asked if I could pick her up and take her to collect a parcel from the locker at Tesco as she'd had a message saying that if it wasn't collected by midnight it would be sent back. She doesn't drive and I assumed her husband wasn't available so I dropped everything and went to pick her up from her house. I didn't expect to be out long and left jobs like washing up, bringing in the washing, putting clean sheets on my bed, watering the garden and taking the dog out. When she came out of the house I noticed she was dressed up as if for a night out, lots of makeup and perfume, mini dress, evening bag, heels etc. We went to pick up the parcel and then she wanted to go to the local pub and although I wasn't keen I said ok, but just half an hour because I'd got jobs at home (I wasn't even dressed for going out, needed a shower and clean clothes etc). I had an orange juice but she was knocking back the large size wines. At 9.30pm I popped home to fetch my dog as she's not used to being left on her own in the evening. My colleague was acting quite drunk when I got back to the pub and making a fool of herself chatting up strange men. People started telling me I need to take her home before she gets into trouble (apparently she'd been drinking whiskey as well as 5 large wines which I didn't know til the barmaid told me). She told me she was going to the toilet but was gone ages, I went to look for her and she was outside flirting with a couple of guys and seemed annoyed at me for saying we had to go.
She's quite a large lady and I'm small so it wasn't easy getting her into my car where she passed out. I drove her home but the house was in darkness and the door was locked. I phoned her husband several times but no answer. I went back to the car and managed to rouse her and she said her husband locks her out (I later found out that he leaves the side door open). She wanted me to drive her to some guy's house 8 miles away…she said he'd let her stay there. I made her phone him first before driving there and he didn't answer. She told me to just take her to his pub and he'd be fine about it and I didn't know what else to do. I couldn't take her to my place as I only have one bed. On the way she was telling me about her affairs with married men and justifying it because her husband wasn't showing her any love and attention. He is ex army and suffers PTSD, is also quite a bit older than her. We got to the pub and she told me to just leave her there and she'd be fine (I obviously didn't). The guy wasn't there so I ended up driving her around at midnight as she kept giving me new instructions as to where this guy might be. Her husband in the meantime messaged me to say sorry he'd missed my call but he'd been asleep and he said he'd left the side door open again and he asked if she was still drunk (probably someone had contacted him as they are well known in town). The guy she wanted me to take her to finally answered her phone and told her she couldn't stay there (I've since found out that he is engaged). I then drove her back to her home where her husband was now awake and let her in (still very drunk). It was half past midnight when I finally got home (five and a half hours after she first phoned me). I understand she is obviously going through a bad patch but I couldn't help feeling a bit angry and upset and like I'd been used. I'm 73, have COPD and never normally drive at night. I know I could have left the pub when she was on her third glass and let her get a taxi home but I felt responsible for her as I'd been the one to pick her up from her house in my car. She has rung and apologised and begged me not to tell anyone so I can't even talk about it to a friend. Am I being unreasonable feeling angry and like I was coerced into the whole thing especially as she was dressed up obviously for a night out but told me she just needed a lift to collect a parcel. Am I being unreasonable for feeling she totally disrespected me? Or was it my fault for letting her get so drunk in the first place. Thanks for reading.

OP posts:
Zoesherman · 16/08/2025 02:53

Bluegem7 · 14/08/2025 14:30

I volunteer in a charity shop and get on well with the female manager who is in her 30's. She is very open with us all about her family problems…she has no control over her wayward teenage daughter and her husband doesn't show her any love or affection. Apart from that, our relationship has been professional and based on mutual respect…. until last Sunday evening when she rang me just as I was having my meal and asked if I could pick her up and take her to collect a parcel from the locker at Tesco as she'd had a message saying that if it wasn't collected by midnight it would be sent back. She doesn't drive and I assumed her husband wasn't available so I dropped everything and went to pick her up from her house. I didn't expect to be out long and left jobs like washing up, bringing in the washing, putting clean sheets on my bed, watering the garden and taking the dog out. When she came out of the house I noticed she was dressed up as if for a night out, lots of makeup and perfume, mini dress, evening bag, heels etc. We went to pick up the parcel and then she wanted to go to the local pub and although I wasn't keen I said ok, but just half an hour because I'd got jobs at home (I wasn't even dressed for going out, needed a shower and clean clothes etc). I had an orange juice but she was knocking back the large size wines. At 9.30pm I popped home to fetch my dog as she's not used to being left on her own in the evening. My colleague was acting quite drunk when I got back to the pub and making a fool of herself chatting up strange men. People started telling me I need to take her home before she gets into trouble (apparently she'd been drinking whiskey as well as 5 large wines which I didn't know til the barmaid told me). She told me she was going to the toilet but was gone ages, I went to look for her and she was outside flirting with a couple of guys and seemed annoyed at me for saying we had to go.
She's quite a large lady and I'm small so it wasn't easy getting her into my car where she passed out. I drove her home but the house was in darkness and the door was locked. I phoned her husband several times but no answer. I went back to the car and managed to rouse her and she said her husband locks her out (I later found out that he leaves the side door open). She wanted me to drive her to some guy's house 8 miles away…she said he'd let her stay there. I made her phone him first before driving there and he didn't answer. She told me to just take her to his pub and he'd be fine about it and I didn't know what else to do. I couldn't take her to my place as I only have one bed. On the way she was telling me about her affairs with married men and justifying it because her husband wasn't showing her any love and attention. He is ex army and suffers PTSD, is also quite a bit older than her. We got to the pub and she told me to just leave her there and she'd be fine (I obviously didn't). The guy wasn't there so I ended up driving her around at midnight as she kept giving me new instructions as to where this guy might be. Her husband in the meantime messaged me to say sorry he'd missed my call but he'd been asleep and he said he'd left the side door open again and he asked if she was still drunk (probably someone had contacted him as they are well known in town). The guy she wanted me to take her to finally answered her phone and told her she couldn't stay there (I've since found out that he is engaged). I then drove her back to her home where her husband was now awake and let her in (still very drunk). It was half past midnight when I finally got home (five and a half hours after she first phoned me). I understand she is obviously going through a bad patch but I couldn't help feeling a bit angry and upset and like I'd been used. I'm 73, have COPD and never normally drive at night. I know I could have left the pub when she was on her third glass and let her get a taxi home but I felt responsible for her as I'd been the one to pick her up from her house in my car. She has rung and apologised and begged me not to tell anyone so I can't even talk about it to a friend. Am I being unreasonable feeling angry and like I was coerced into the whole thing especially as she was dressed up obviously for a night out but told me she just needed a lift to collect a parcel. Am I being unreasonable for feeling she totally disrespected me? Or was it my fault for letting her get so drunk in the first place. Thanks for reading.

You need better boundary's. I wouldn’t even do what you did for a friend. You was about to eat your dinner and had things to do so you should not of dropped them to run to her . but it’s literally not your fault she’s sad, got hammered , flirting and that.

llizzie · 16/08/2025 01:47

Bluegem7 · 14/08/2025 16:13

The parcel got picked up. I'm going leave the charity shop because I can't work with people who behave like that. And yes I'm going to have to give a reason why and I don't see why I should lie. Thanks

You are right to decide to leave the shop. You can volunteer anywhere.

This manager has no right to ask you to do such a thing.

Something good can always be redeemed from the bad. Now that you have had this experience, you will recognise it when you see it again.

Next time, if there ever is, just offer to pick up the parcel for her.

MaddestGranny · 15/08/2025 23:26

dear @Bluegem7 , it sounds like you live in a small or smallish town or even a country village? To access no-cost or low-cost counselling you could start with your GP, which would probably entail a waiting list, but you'd (eventually) get a series of (probably 6) sessions to help you learn to be a bit more assertiveness and at least begin to address your handicap of being a "people pleaser". Or you could look around (try Googling) to see if there are any low-cost therapies in your area. The charity "Mind" often give placements to therapists in training, which enables people to have low/no- cost counselling. Failing that, see if your local authority runs any courses on Assertiveness Training. Possibly, also, the people who run the charity in whose shop you volunteer may be able to give you a pointer. It is never too late to improve your ability to stand up for yourself, learn to say "no", and be clearer in expressing your ideas, wants and needs. You'll benefit enormously from the process. Meanwhile, see if you can find other social outlets: book group?; choir?; gardening club?; dog-friendly walking club? "Cast your bread upon the waters" and see if you can't find some much nicer (& soberer) people to make friends with.
Good luck to you, OP. Honestly, it's never too late to start a new life.
Meanwhile, treat yourself to a copy of the book: "A Woman In Your Own Right: Assertiveness and You" by Anne Dickson. You'll find it very cheaply on AwesomeBooks and World of Books.

HumanRightsAreHumanRights · 15/08/2025 22:40

You are now enabling this woman and she will do it again.

She might not take advantage of you, but by keeping it secret from your workplace, she can still take advantage of other co-workers.

You are not helping anyone by keeping her actions secret, no matter how well intentioned you are.

She isn't a nice person like you.
She won't change because she has no reason to, and she feels no shame for being the person she is.

Nevermotivated · 15/08/2025 22:27

Don't be so hard on yourself. You are a good person that would be there for anyone in need. It's the person that took/takes advantage of you that should feel shame.

Horses7 · 15/08/2025 22:23

givemushypeasachance · 14/08/2025 14:39

That is all totally bananas. I wouldn't go and give a random colleague a lift to collect a parcel on a Sunday night in the first place, and if for some reason they did and then were like "now lets go to the pub" I'd just say no thanks and drop them off at the pub alone and go home if they insisted.

A bizarre, bizarre situation all round.

First post nails it as usual!

OP - I’m saying this kindly…… you need your head examining!

Never, ever do a favour for anyone ever again!!

Othersnotsomuch · 15/08/2025 22:02

and then she wanted to go to the local pub and although I wasn't keen I said ok,

thanks for the invite but not tonight
thanks for the invite but I have plans
thanks for the invite but I’m not in the mood and don’t drink

Francestein · 15/08/2025 22:01

I think you should let her know that this is never happening again, and ask that she keeps contact to work only.

Bluegem7 · 15/08/2025 20:35

OldBeyondMyYears · 15/08/2025 19:32

I voted YABU for being such a mug! Why on earth did you go back to the pub after going home to take your dog out??? That’s just bizarre of you! 🤦‍♀️🤷‍♀️

Ok...I was waiting for her to finish her second glass of wine and hoping we could go and I'd run her home. She grabbed her glass and said she was going to get another drink. It didn't occur to me at that point to just leave her on her own in a pub with no lift home. I asked her if she'd be ok for ten minutes if I popped home and fetched my dog as she isn't used to being left alone in the evening especially as it was getting dark. I took my dog back to the pub and she (dog).was happy to be with me). I know I should have said I needed to go and let her sort out a taxi or whatever but I'm seeing that now. It's difficult to explain but I felt responsible for making sure she got home safely as it was just the two of us and I'd picked her up to start with.

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Thepeopleversuswork · 15/08/2025 19:59

@Bluegem7

I know I need counselling for lack of confidence/assertiveness but don't know where to start looking. I can't afford to go privately.

I understand: it's expensive. At the very least, try to learn from this episode that you are probably too soft on other people, you need to put yourself first more and that you need to trust your own instincts about people's motives.

Also that guilt and obligation are completely redundant if there is no reciprocation. You owed this woman nothing. Next time this happens, learn that when you start feeling uncomfortable, its OK to be uncomfortable and act on it.

OldBeyondMyYears · 15/08/2025 19:32

I voted YABU for being such a mug! Why on earth did you go back to the pub after going home to take your dog out??? That’s just bizarre of you! 🤦‍♀️🤷‍♀️

Othersnotsomuch · 15/08/2025 19:24

Bluegem7 · 15/08/2025 16:57

Just for the record, there's been several comments regarding me reporting her but the only reason I would need to is if I gave my notice with immediate effect (which I'm still considering) I would give a reason why. Several on here have said why should I keep quiet just because she asked me to. If I decide to stay in the job I wouldn't say anything to the senior management.

If you leave
you’ll lose out
you admit you have limited social interaction otherwise

Othersnotsomuch · 15/08/2025 19:22

Bluegem7 · 15/08/2025 16:52

Oh for goodness sake Other snot. Shut up!

Come again?

either way, channel some of that feistiness in to your RL interactions

Heyhoitsme · 15/08/2025 18:49

She might have done the same to others. Hence the instruction not to tell anyone. Don't be feeling used, feel angry instead. You sound like a lovely person.

Bluegem7 · 15/08/2025 18:42

Thepeopleversuswork · 15/08/2025 17:08

I think you're getting a bit of a kicking here OP, some of it a bit unnecessary, and you are obviously a very kind person. But what's frustrating is that you seem to have no idea of where your responsibility towards other people ends and your obligation to look after yourself starts.

This woman is obviously very troubled and has a horrible life, so whether she used you or not is kind of irrelevant: she obviously is desperate for friendship and affection wherever she can find it.

But at no point in the five plus hours you were being dragged around to various drinking holes did you think "this is not my problem" and bailed out. I would probably have drawn the line after Tesco, certainly after the first drink in the pub. Many people wouldn't even have taken her to Tesco. Yet you were still, at beyond pub closing time, being roped into her drama. Ultimately she's nothing to you: she's not even a friend.

People like this will always draw you as far as they can take you. You need to develop a much more acute sense of self-protection and learn to say no to people.

Thank you, everything you say is true. I'm blaming myself enough for being a total mug. I don't expect anyone to understand but things just spiralled and I got caught up in the whole chaos of the evening. It's easy to be wise after the event but I have learned something from this. I know I need counselling for lack of confidence/assertiveness but don't know where to start looking. I can't afford to go privately.

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Spinmerightroundbaby · 15/08/2025 18:19

Sounds like a rough night OP. YANBU to be upset and it is to your credit that you were a good friend to her and made sure she was looked after in her condition. Personally though I would just chalk it up to experience, accept her apology and move on. You know not to agree to take her anywhere in the future!

Thepeopleversuswork · 15/08/2025 17:08

I think you're getting a bit of a kicking here OP, some of it a bit unnecessary, and you are obviously a very kind person. But what's frustrating is that you seem to have no idea of where your responsibility towards other people ends and your obligation to look after yourself starts.

This woman is obviously very troubled and has a horrible life, so whether she used you or not is kind of irrelevant: she obviously is desperate for friendship and affection wherever she can find it.

But at no point in the five plus hours you were being dragged around to various drinking holes did you think "this is not my problem" and bailed out. I would probably have drawn the line after Tesco, certainly after the first drink in the pub. Many people wouldn't even have taken her to Tesco. Yet you were still, at beyond pub closing time, being roped into her drama. Ultimately she's nothing to you: she's not even a friend.

People like this will always draw you as far as they can take you. You need to develop a much more acute sense of self-protection and learn to say no to people.

Bluegem7 · 15/08/2025 16:57

Just for the record, there's been several comments regarding me reporting her but the only reason I would need to is if I gave my notice with immediate effect (which I'm still considering) I would give a reason why. Several on here have said why should I keep quiet just because she asked me to. If I decide to stay in the job I wouldn't say anything to the senior management.

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Bluegem7 · 15/08/2025 16:52

Othersnotsomuch · 15/08/2025 10:10

“Dropped everything”

oh for goodness sakes OP. Adult up

Oh for goodness sake Other snot. Shut up!

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Othersnotsomuch · 15/08/2025 13:53

I think

one off pissed evening with profuse apologies - no, shouldn’t be reported (not that there would be any consequences)

the OP is clearly very vulnerable and also seems very socially isolated with very limited intervention with others. I think she’d be cutting her nose off to spite her face if she jacked in this position.

Othersnotsomuch · 15/08/2025 13:50

Iocainepowder · 15/08/2025 10:14

And Op is clearly vulnerable. Which is also why she needs to report it. It remains quite possible that the manager may continue to be unprofessional and the op may not know how to deal with it or need further support.

Well if the op is “clearly vulnerable” then they will probs my be more concerned about this 73 year old very “vulnerable” volunteer

Climbingrosexx · 15/08/2025 13:43

I would be furious if it was me but don't waste any more time on feeling angry and questioning yourself, just take it as a lesson learnt. If she calls again make sure you are not available for any favours. Asking for a lift on a Sunday evening is cheeky enough but the rest is just nuts! She showed you no consideration and you owe her nothing, if you need to confide in a friend do it! Also who is she trying to hide it from? Sounds like her husband knows what she is like and the whole town saw her drunken debauchery. The more I type the more questions it raises

Iocainepowder · 15/08/2025 10:14

Othersnotsomuch · 15/08/2025 10:10

I wouldn’t report on the basis of one evening which was followed up by profuse apologies the next morning

mind you… not one thing the Op did that night I would have done. Odd from start to finish

And Op is clearly vulnerable. Which is also why she needs to report it. It remains quite possible that the manager may continue to be unprofessional and the op may not know how to deal with it or need further support.

Othersnotsomuch · 15/08/2025 10:10

“Dropped everything”

oh for goodness sakes OP. Adult up

Othersnotsomuch · 15/08/2025 10:10

Iocainepowder · 15/08/2025 10:01

She has apologised but it doesn’t mean it won’t have a future impact on their working relationship or how the manager will treat op. Op already has concerns about their working relationship based on the night out and the manager has already pretty much acted unprofessionally by begging op not to mention the event.

I wouldn’t report on the basis of one evening which was followed up by profuse apologies the next morning

mind you… not one thing the Op did that night I would have done. Odd from start to finish