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Octopus Energy - £4k elec bill for 11 months?

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Watchoka · 13/08/2025 20:30

Trying to help my brother.

He lives in a 2 bed flat on his own and works in an office during the day. Only has electric.

When he moved in in 2023 Shell was the electricity provider.

Octopus took over Shell in Feb 24

Since he moved in he has paid £135 per month for electricity.

In January 25 Octopus sent him a bill for £4k without explanation.

There were a series of charges made to his account in one day and then credits made on another day and then charges made again (all on one day) all adding up to approx £4k. Again no explanation.

my brother called them and they said he had only been paying estimated amounts and he had now been billed for actual usage for the last 11 months (amounting to £4k in 11 months)

I queried with Octopus whether the charges related to electricity used more than 12 months ago (back-billing) and they said no. They said they checked the account and the charges were correct. They did say that they attempted to install a new meter in May 25 but couldn’t. They didn’t say why they were installing a new one or whether the old one was faulty.

I’ve checked the usage amounts on all his bills and they just don’t add up for one person in a small apartment who is out most of the day.

The Customer Service Advisor appeared almost ecstatic when he came back to say the £4k for 11
months still owed.

I’m not sure where he goes now. The billing just doesn’t make sense and no real explanation has been given about the charges piled on in Feb 25.

Anyone had a similar experience please?

any help would be very much appreciated please

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LakieLady · 14/08/2025 17:28

Watchoka · 14/08/2025 07:52

@LakieLady interesting point - I’ll check what his reading in November 24 was and compare to estimates

he has been taking readings each week since about May and usage no where near what he was previously billed for despite no changes in how using electricity.

so difficult to navigate all this

It's also possible that they opened his account with a reading lower than the actual reading, but that wouldn't account for the ongoing overcharging.

katmarie · 14/08/2025 17:06

Watchoka · 14/08/2025 12:32

@katmariejust read your first post - what an ordeal! Glad you finally got justice. Sounds like a hell of a lot of work. Disappointing and concerning to hear the ombudsman didn’t ensure OVO complied

Honestly by the end of it I think I was powered by sheer fury and rage that they were all just so rubbish at solving the problem, and I just went for the scorched earth approach. I truly believe if my MP hadn't acted I'd still be trying to sort it out now. The ombudsman were very disappointing, I hope you have better luck with them though.

SakaPotatoes · 14/08/2025 14:00

Are you sure someone else in the block has illegally connected to his meter at some point? That's a huge amount of electricity for one flat.

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Watchoka · 14/08/2025 12:32

@katmariejust read your first post - what an ordeal! Glad you finally got justice. Sounds like a hell of a lot of work. Disappointing and concerning to hear the ombudsman didn’t ensure OVO complied

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Watchoka · 14/08/2025 12:24

@katmarie- brilliant advice! Many thanks for this!

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Early3Rise · 14/08/2025 11:06

Another octopus customer here.
Large semi-d house.
4 occupiers.
Lots of electricity use
Bill about 800 a year

MemorableTrenchcoat · 14/08/2025 11:01

BertyFlanter · 14/08/2025 10:56

Oh wow, I didn't see that. I used it a few years ago when I had very similar to the OP with bulb/octopus and they were so helpful. What a shame, it was a great resource for what is a ridiculously complicated industry we all have no choice but to engage with.

Yeah, it was really helpful for a lot of people, but it went downhill quickly. The original team posted this update, I don’t know what, if anything, happened afterwards.

https://energymoderators.wordpress.com/2024/10/29/mismanagement-of-funds-at-energy-support-and-advice-uk/

Mismanagement of funds at Energy Support and Advice UK

  On 28th May 2024, the following open letter was posted to the Energy Support and Advice UK Facebook group. The post was removed from the Facebook group by the group owner Gemma Hatvani. The …

https://energymoderators.wordpress.com/2024/10/29/mismanagement-of-funds-at-energy-support-and-advice-uk/

BertyFlanter · 14/08/2025 10:56

MemorableTrenchcoat · 14/08/2025 10:31

That used to be a good group. The woman who ran it was skimming off the proceeds for herself, and the industry experts all left.

Oh wow, I didn't see that. I used it a few years ago when I had very similar to the OP with bulb/octopus and they were so helpful. What a shame, it was a great resource for what is a ridiculously complicated industry we all have no choice but to engage with.

Chemenger · 14/08/2025 10:52

MemorableTrenchcoat · 14/08/2025 10:27

Why would the whole block have a bill? Do you mean communal lighting? A few light bulbs don't cost much to run.

Unless there is a lift; they use a lot of electricity.

Chemenger · 14/08/2025 10:50

Has the meter definitely not been changed? We had an insane bill from OVO once because they “forgot” the meter had changed and assumed that they could subtract the reading on the old meter from the one on the new meter. Luckily I had read both meters on the day of the change.

Chemenger · 14/08/2025 10:46

If you go into the Octopus app you can see all meter readings and charges. Look up the starting reading when he moved in, take a reading now and see if that matches the bill, as a first step. He must have submitted an initial meter reading when he opened his account.

MemorableTrenchcoat · 14/08/2025 10:31

BertyFlanter · 14/08/2025 10:28

There is a group on Facebook called "Facebook Group Energy Support & Advice UK". They have some incredibly knowledgeable industry people on there who can help guide you though the process.

That used to be a good group. The woman who ran it was skimming off the proceeds for herself, and the industry experts all left.

BertyFlanter · 14/08/2025 10:28

There is a group on Facebook called "Facebook Group Energy Support & Advice UK". They have some incredibly knowledgeable industry people on there who can help guide you though the process.

MemorableTrenchcoat · 14/08/2025 10:27

Fastingandhungry · 14/08/2025 10:22

That sounds like the block bill and not the flat bill??

Why would the whole block have a bill? Do you mean communal lighting? A few light bulbs don't cost much to run.

katmarie · 14/08/2025 10:23

Anyway, my advice to you and your brother:

If he's not capable of dealing with this, get him to authorise you and your sister to speak to Octopus directly. (My DH was solely named on our OVO account and it took some back and forth for them to agree to deal with me.)

Put in a subject access request for all data held about your brother's account now - these things can take a bit of time to come through.

In the meantime build a timeline of what's happened with as much evidence as you can find. Create a folder on your computer and save everything there, clearly labeled and label it against your time line date.

For example: 1st January 2022 - DBro moved in and gave meter reading - evidence - 1- copy tenancy agreement (tenancyagg.doc) 2- Copy email to Octopus (OCTreading1.doc)

When you get the SAR data go through it carefully, looking at any amendments, adjustments, comments on the account, meter reading changes, jumps in data, etc. Keep an eye on timing, it's interesting that they have applied this excess charge to an 11 month old bill, that puts it inside the 12 month window to make it exempt from back billing principles. But why that bill, and why now? How have they found this error. They should be able to tell you all of that.

I wonder if the issue goes back further than that but has only been found this year and they're trying to bill it anyway.
https://www.ofgem.gov.uk/information-consumers/energy-advice-households/what-do-if-you-get-back-bill

If you have not already, put in the formal complaint to Octopus now. The Ombudsman won't act unless a formal complaint has been submitted to the supplier, and the supplier has had 8 weeks to resolve it.

Once those 8 weeks are up, go straight to the Ombudsman. Give them your timeline and evidence and be clear about what you want the outcome to be.
https://www.energyombudsman.org/our-process

The Ombudsman will investigate and then come up with an outcome and potential resolutions which both sides are asked to agree to or not. If both sides agree, it's on the energy supplier to then implement the agreement.

Good luck on this, and you sound like a lovely sister for trying to help your brother with this.

Fastingandhungry · 14/08/2025 10:22

That sounds like the block bill and not the flat bill??

Addictforanex · 14/08/2025 10:13

@katmarie 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

katmarie · 14/08/2025 10:09

OK OP, buckle up, this is a long one.

I had a similar issue, not with Octopus, but with OVO energy recently. Out of nowhere back in 2021, they added more than £1500 in electricity charges to one bill, and said it was because we were on estimated readings and that the new reading had come through and updated the amount used.

However, we'd only had the account open 3 months at that point, and we'd paid our DD each month, based on their original estimation of likely usage when we switched to them, so an additional £1500 in charges over and above the £150 a month we'd been paying seemed unlikely.

I went through the account, downloaded every bill, and disputed the amount owed. There was absolutely no way we could have used what amounted to more than £2000 worth of electricity in 3 months. I spoke to an electrician friend who has done frequent work on my house and he confirmed that nothing we had in the house would be pulling that much power.

I disputed the bill with OVO who did some tests, meter creep, checked day v night readings, and then they insisted it was correct. It clearly wasn't. I had several arguments with them over it, over several months, and refused to pay the excess. Eventually I did a subject access request and got copies of every single meter reading and all the activity on the account. I went through them line by line, and it became clear that at some point the readings jumped around massively, at the same time as an OVO employee making some sort of correction on our account.

Anyway mid 2023 I complained to OVO formally, who did nothing with my complaint other than chase me for payment. I also reduced my direct debit to a very low amount, and when they kicked up a fuss, I told them I wasn't paying any more until they could prove the bill was accurate. That still didn't get any resolution. I had to wait 8 weeks from initiating formal complaint until I could go to the ombudsman, (Ombudsman rules) and in that time OVO did nothing useful.

So I took it to the ombudsman, who investigated and agreed with me that OVO had got it massively wrong. OVO accepted the findings and reworked the bill, they wrote off around £300 as back billing, and then insisted the bill was right, and that I should pay it. But it was still clearly massively wrong and OVO wouldn't give me any evidence of what the error actually was. By this point we were into 2024.

So I took it back to the Ombudsman again, who did a great impression of chocolate teapot. They did basically nothing to make OVO comply with their original finding. I put in a complaint to the Ombudsman and eventually got a 'soz, we got that wrong' response, but they didn't actually do anything useful.

I left it for a while, and then got fucked off with it when I started getting debt collection letters. For context, I previously worked in customer service in a trouble shooting type role for a long time, so I have an idea of how these types of investigations should go. I put together basically a huge dossier of exactly what I thought had happened, all the paperwork, a six page timeline of all my interactions with OVO, all the documents I had from them. I did the job for them pretty much. That thing was a bloody work of art.

I sent that dossier to OVO's CEO, my MP and every newspaper I could find that did a consumer issues piece. All copied into the same email. My MP was excellent, he was on them in a few days asking what the problem was and why weren't they sorting it. The CEO's complaints team also responded, and I got an actual assigned account handler who reviewed the whole account and actually for the love of god listened to me. Eventually they wrote off the errant £1500 and gave me about £300 in credit as compensation. They agreed something had gone very wrong, but couldn't tell what, so they just... wrote it off.

But from the issue appearing in 2021, to the resolution earlier this year, took 4 years. And if I hadn't been so bloody minded about it, I might never have got it solved.

Woooo that was long.

ConfusedSloth · 14/08/2025 09:49

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This is an appropriate and proportionate response to me using an emoji. You started off being rude (and incorrect, to boot).

You’re not used to being wrong, are you?

MemorableTrenchcoat · 14/08/2025 09:48

CatsorDogsrule · 14/08/2025 09:41

The opening reading should be stated (and probably photographed) on his Check-In Inventory Report from when he moved in.

Octopus should be happy to accept this as evidence of both the initial date and reading from which he is responsible.

If he wasn't sending in readings, how was there a spike shown in 2024? Does it show a reading as Actual, when they had only been estimated until then? Or quite likely a meter reader attended and provided the actual reading, which was far higher than had been estimated over the years.

This is probably the most likely scenario, but OP doesn’t seem to want to hear it.

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Disgusting comment.

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Aaron95 · 14/08/2025 09:46

OneNeatBlueOrca · 14/08/2025 00:01

If you refer it to the energy ombudsman, they'll start investigating it and they'll also call off the dogs. Meaning, the energy company will stop chasing for a while.Because the ombudsman is involved. He won't be on the receiving ends of any demands while it's being investigated

The ombudsman will not get involved utill you have exhausted the complaint process with the energy company first.

CatsorDogsrule · 14/08/2025 09:41

The opening reading should be stated (and probably photographed) on his Check-In Inventory Report from when he moved in.

Octopus should be happy to accept this as evidence of both the initial date and reading from which he is responsible.

If he wasn't sending in readings, how was there a spike shown in 2024? Does it show a reading as Actual, when they had only been estimated until then? Or quite likely a meter reader attended and provided the actual reading, which was far higher than had been estimated over the years.