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AIBU to think my ex should pay more child maintenance when he earns £720k a year?

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Pashpash24 · 13/08/2025 19:14

I’ll try to keep this as short as possible while giving some back story.

I was with my ex-partner for four years. We had a son together, but he walked out before he was born. He saw him a few times as a newborn, but I had asked that he didn’t bring his new partner. My son was six weeks old when he turned up at my door with her, even though I’d said it was too soon.

He took me to court saying she should be allowed to meet him. The court agreed it was too soon and suggested maybe when the baby was older.

Because of that, he told me he would never see his son again. I was devastated and said fine, she can meet him, because I didn’t want him to walk away. But he still refused and never saw him again.

For six years, he had no contact — no visits, no messages, nothing. The only thing he did was pay child maintenance. It was a decent amount (£1,277.50 a month), and I never asked for more.

He went on to have three more children with his now wife. I just got on with life until one day my son came out of school and asked, “I must have a dad, right?” I’d never told him about his father because I didn’t want him to feel abandoned.

When he started asking more questions, I texted his dad to say I was going to tell him the truth — I wasn’t going to raise him on a lie. I’d messaged over the years, even sent photos, and he’d read them on WhatsApp but never replied. So I didn’t expect a response this time either.

Surprisingly, he replied and said maybe it was time to meet. This was when my son was six (he’s now nearly nine). In the last three years, he’s probably met him in person about 10 times. He calls roughly once every 10 days, which I think is poor — it should’ve progressed a lot more by now.

Anyway, to the point. I recently logged into my Child Maintenance account after receiving an unusual notification. It showed his salary: £720,000 a year.

I’ve always been paid £1,277.50 a month because that’s what CMS caps it at. He could earn £1 million a week and I’d still receive that same amount — you have to go to court for any increase.

Would he be able to afford more? Absolutely. I know it’s a decent amount, but he only pays it because that’s the legal minimum CMS tells him to.

I’m self-employed and work part-time so my son can do after-school activities — he’s football mad and trains/plays four times a week. I’m essentially raising him alone; my dad moved 40 miles away, and I have no relationship with my mum. I rarely get a break, but that’s been the reality since the start.

I’ve never asked for an increase, but life is much more expensive now. £1,277 doesn’t go as far as it did six years ago, and £720,000 a year is a huge income.

To put it into perspective — CMS only calculates maintenance on a maximum salary of £156,000 a year. My ex earns over four times that, but I still only get the amount they’d set for £156k — just over 2% of his actual income. Unless I go to court for a “top-up order”, that’s all I’ll ever get.

AIBU to ask for more?

OP posts:
PamIsAVolleyballChamp · 13/08/2025 20:41

NoSoupForU · 13/08/2025 20:22

I think you're unreasonable, yes, because you aren't seeing it as the cost of raising your son, you're seeing it as something you should be entitled to in order to live the lifestyle you want to.

It doesn't cost more than £1277 a month (plus whatever your contribution would be) to raise a 9 year old.

You aren't unreasonable to ask but you are unreasonable to feel entitled.

This, is the extra money for you or your son? What does he need it for?
take him on more days out, and go on more holidays together
Sounds like you stuff. Do you think parents who work full time to provide for their children aren't providing a 'good quality of life'? Slightly judgy!

Rosscameasdoody · 13/08/2025 20:40

ConfusedSloth · 13/08/2025 19:34

You’re very unlikely to be successful (because it doesn’t cost £2500 per month to raise one child, and it sounds like you’re in receipt of universal credit/child benefit for your DS on top) so you have no need for this for your DS and it would really be considered money for you personally.

Just because the order exists as a concept doesn’t mean you’ll get one or are eligible for one. You risk souring the relationship and costing yourself a bucket in legal fees.

So you don’t think his child by OP is deserving of the same privileges his other children will undoubtedly have ?

disappointedconfused · 13/08/2025 20:39

so..in ten years you’ve worked “reception to year 3….” So 4 years max out of 10 and you now work part time as cleaner ….you are only able to do that as you get 1200 a month tax free income which is pretty much minimum wage…I get he earns a lot but he’s effectively subsidising your choice not to work full time …maybe ask him to set up a college/uni fund or something …going back for more CMS might seem grabby at this point?

JHound · 13/08/2025 20:38

FrippEnos · 13/08/2025 20:34

I was about to post similar to @Lamplight101 your ex must be 30 - 35 years old so his earning potential will be dropping soon. If that is the case you may find the the amount that you already get will drop.

I think he likely has some more years good earnings. I am in my 40s and earn almost double what I was in my mid 30s.

northernballer · 13/08/2025 20:38

If he is earning £720k per year and you still receive tax payer top ups rather than him being forced to pay for his child then the system is in a worse state than I thought!

Mauro711 · 13/08/2025 20:37

He doesn't sound like the most loving or engaged father but he also hasn't tried anything on re/ cms so it could be that he would be willing to up the maintenance a bit. If he's that rich then he is most likely spendng obscene amounts on his other 3 kids and probably wouldn't think it was anything out of the ordinary for you to ask for more. Your child is nearing the tween years and they do tend to cost more then so I would maybe approach it in way that you would like to be able to afford new football kit every now and again, to be able to send him on the more expensive school trips, start a savings account for his driver's license, uni fund etc. Maybe just ask if he would be willing to up the maintenance to, say £2K/ month or something so you have more of a buffer for life's extra's.

If he says no, then you can make a decision at that point if you want to go down the legal route.

AllyDally · 13/08/2025 20:37

Pashpash24 · 13/08/2025 20:28

If that was the case, I would have done it years ago wouldn’t I. Please keep your assumptions to yourself. You really don’t have any idea.

Most after school clubs my DC have done would not have been not possible if both DH and I had to commute back from work. I worked full time but started early and mostly from home/flexi hours so I could do it. DH has never been home before 6 so definitely football practice would be out the window. Tennis practice was 5-7, football 530 when they were under around 10 or 11. Only thing that was later was cricket.

At the end of the day if the dad hadnt walked out then the child could do the clubs so he shouldn't necessarily miss out.

I can see both sides but seriously £720k is shit loads of money and hes only contributing 1.2k a month to 1 of his kids, I bet the other 3 get all the luxuries!

Pashpash24 · 13/08/2025 20:36

FrippEnos · 13/08/2025 20:34

I was about to post similar to @Lamplight101 your ex must be 30 - 35 years old so his earning potential will be dropping soon. If that is the case you may find the the amount that you already get will drop.

Yeah I completely get that and again it’s another reason why I’ve not asked as I just presumed his earnings would be getting lower and lower. I was just shocked to see that last years salary was what it was. I didn’t really expect it to be so high.

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JHound · 13/08/2025 20:36

You can ask but he will most likely say no.

Having a limit may seem unfair but I guess it’s a way of ensuring a resident parent is not living off their ex. There should be cost of living / inflation increases.

Barney16 · 13/08/2025 20:36

Lamplight101 · 13/08/2025 20:31

If he plays sport for a living and had a child 8 years I imagine that he might be at or nearing the end of his prime playing years. You may subsequently find the amount starts to fall quite substantially now. With this in mind, the idea of getting some sort of capital sum into a trust fund/wider form of savings now seems a very prudent idea as unlike those in the financial services industry etc it may not be sustainable plus the ever risk of injury etc. I would get what you can now locked into savings. Make hay while the sun shines.

This. Footballers, I'm presuming obviously, don't play for big money forever.

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FrippEnos · 13/08/2025 20:34

I was about to post similar to @Lamplight101 your ex must be 30 - 35 years old so his earning potential will be dropping soon. If that is the case you may find the the amount that you already get will drop.

NImumconfused · 13/08/2025 20:33

If he's making his money from playing sports, then it's quite different from someone with a high paying job in the city or whatever - his high earning years will be relatively short lived and he'll need to be saving in case his earnings drop substantially when he retires from playing. I think in that case then courts might not be on your side so much.

Lamplight101 · 13/08/2025 20:31

If he plays sport for a living and had a child 8 years I imagine that he might be at or nearing the end of his prime playing years. You may subsequently find the amount starts to fall quite substantially now. With this in mind, the idea of getting some sort of capital sum into a trust fund/wider form of savings now seems a very prudent idea as unlike those in the financial services industry etc it may not be sustainable plus the ever risk of injury etc. I would get what you can now locked into savings. Make hay while the sun shines.

HopscotchBanana · 13/08/2025 20:31

Pashpash24 · 13/08/2025 20:27

Hand on heart. Genuinely the reason. Where we lived at the time the only club that had space for him started training at 5:30pm and I finished at 5. My commute was 40 minutes and I could never get him there on time. When I say he is obsessed, he is obsessed with football. His bedrooms a shrine to Liverpool lol

Ah cross post.

So pick a job where you can take him?

Is is that ridiculous that you're now claiming you can only work full time hours at least half an hour away from "the only club that will take him"

HopscotchBanana · 13/08/2025 20:29

Pashpash24 · 13/08/2025 20:28

If that was the case, I would have done it years ago wouldn’t I. Please keep your assumptions to yourself. You really don’t have any idea.

Yeah yeah...

So what time is the "evening" football practice then.

Because that's the third time you've pretended not to hear the question.

SweatyAugust · 13/08/2025 20:29

There is no harm in approaching him and saying you feel his ds is missing out on holidays etc and ask if he would consider a voluntary top up. His other dc must have a very different lifestyle.

Pashpash24 · 13/08/2025 20:28

HopscotchBanana · 13/08/2025 20:27

Behave.

What time is football practice, 3 times a week that no properly working parent can make it.

It's just excuses because you already receive enough top ups and money from your ex boyfriend to not need more hours to make ends meet. Yet you want more cash.

Your kid's already being financially supported much more by dad and the government than you. But instead of working you make excuses about bettering his life by working low hours and the only option that doesn't cross your mind is you actually working to earn more money.

If that was the case, I would have done it years ago wouldn’t I. Please keep your assumptions to yourself. You really don’t have any idea.

OP posts:
Pashpash24 · 13/08/2025 20:27

Dumbo18 · 13/08/2025 20:24

Do you really work part time so you son can play football? Not asking to be nasty or anything just genuinely intrigued. I’ve not come across that before

Hand on heart. Genuinely the reason. Where we lived at the time the only club that had space for him started training at 5:30pm and I finished at 5. My commute was 40 minutes and I could never get him there on time. When I say he is obsessed, he is obsessed with football. His bedrooms a shrine to Liverpool lol

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HopscotchBanana · 13/08/2025 20:27

Pashpash24 · 13/08/2025 20:18

For people saying why don’t I go work full time I did. I worked full-time from when my son was in Reception until Year 3. He was always the first one in breakfast club and the last one to leave after-school club because I worked in an estate agent’s, and I hated it.

After that, I opened my own café and worked 7 days a week — he was with me in the café on weekends. I’ve never “cried poverty” and I’m not shy of hard work.

Now I work for myself cleaning houses and offices during school hours so my son can actually attend football training three evenings a week and play at weekends — something he couldn’t do before. Yes, I now work part-time, but that’s a conscious choice to give him a better quality of life.

If I received more maintenance, I’d use it exactly how most parents would: I’d shop for better quality food, buy him nicer clothes, take him on more days out, and go on more holidays together. My son is my life — I’m not looking for more so I can get my nails done.

Behave.

What time is football practice, 3 times a week that no properly working parent can make it.

It's just excuses because you already receive enough top ups and money from your ex boyfriend to not need more hours to make ends meet. Yet you want more cash.

Your kid's already being financially supported much more by dad and the government than you. But instead of working you make excuses about bettering his life by working low hours and the only option that doesn't cross your mind is you actually working to earn more money.

Newnamefortouchysubject · 13/08/2025 20:24

I would not pursue this OP.
Your son has only seen his father for 10 days in the last almost 9 years.
He completely ignored his existence, except to pay minimal child maintenance for 6 of those years.
The last time you stood up to him, he took you to court and then despite your pleas, refused to have any contact with your DS for 6 years, and even then, contact was instigated by you.
You have sent him numerous messages and photos over the years that didn't elicit a single response.

I can tell you 4 things about this man.

  1. He doesn't take instruction or advice well.
  2. He has barely any emotional investment in your DS.
  3. He doesn't have enough morals to pay more.
  4. He is going to resist paying you a single penny more with everything he's got.

Your DS will ultimately pay the price for your request.
I would leave it, and focus on supporting your DS to navigate this relationship with his father, step mother and siblings, for as long as your DS chooses to.
If you ask for more money, it won't end well at all.

Dumbo18 · 13/08/2025 20:24

Do you really work part time so you son can play football? Not asking to be nasty or anything just genuinely intrigued. I’ve not come across that before

Emilysmum90 · 13/08/2025 20:23

HermioneWeasley · 13/08/2025 19:37

I’d ask whether he’d consider setting up a savings account for your DS so it’s clear he’s not funding you

This.

I wouldn't want his money for anything to do with me, but I would very much like for DS to be considered long term. If not on the same level as his other kids then I'm sure this man could stump up for university fees or a house deposit when DS is an adult.

LizzyTango · 13/08/2025 20:22

Amuseaboosh · 13/08/2025 19:25

It's more than enough.

Family Law practitioner here.

Unless your son has severe medical needs above and beyond, it's more than enough.

Your ex has 3 other children to factor in.

Edited

This is dangerously wrong.

OP pay for a one off consultation with a decent solicitor to get parameters for what is reasonable. There is a new formula developed from a recent case. Get solicitor to calculate it for you then as a first step approach your ex for that specific sum.

NoSoupForU · 13/08/2025 20:22

I think you're unreasonable, yes, because you aren't seeing it as the cost of raising your son, you're seeing it as something you should be entitled to in order to live the lifestyle you want to.

It doesn't cost more than £1277 a month (plus whatever your contribution would be) to raise a 9 year old.

You aren't unreasonable to ask but you are unreasonable to feel entitled.