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AIBU to think my ex should pay more child maintenance when he earns £720k a year?

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Pashpash24 · 13/08/2025 19:14

I’ll try to keep this as short as possible while giving some back story.

I was with my ex-partner for four years. We had a son together, but he walked out before he was born. He saw him a few times as a newborn, but I had asked that he didn’t bring his new partner. My son was six weeks old when he turned up at my door with her, even though I’d said it was too soon.

He took me to court saying she should be allowed to meet him. The court agreed it was too soon and suggested maybe when the baby was older.

Because of that, he told me he would never see his son again. I was devastated and said fine, she can meet him, because I didn’t want him to walk away. But he still refused and never saw him again.

For six years, he had no contact — no visits, no messages, nothing. The only thing he did was pay child maintenance. It was a decent amount (£1,277.50 a month), and I never asked for more.

He went on to have three more children with his now wife. I just got on with life until one day my son came out of school and asked, “I must have a dad, right?” I’d never told him about his father because I didn’t want him to feel abandoned.

When he started asking more questions, I texted his dad to say I was going to tell him the truth — I wasn’t going to raise him on a lie. I’d messaged over the years, even sent photos, and he’d read them on WhatsApp but never replied. So I didn’t expect a response this time either.

Surprisingly, he replied and said maybe it was time to meet. This was when my son was six (he’s now nearly nine). In the last three years, he’s probably met him in person about 10 times. He calls roughly once every 10 days, which I think is poor — it should’ve progressed a lot more by now.

Anyway, to the point. I recently logged into my Child Maintenance account after receiving an unusual notification. It showed his salary: £720,000 a year.

I’ve always been paid £1,277.50 a month because that’s what CMS caps it at. He could earn £1 million a week and I’d still receive that same amount — you have to go to court for any increase.

Would he be able to afford more? Absolutely. I know it’s a decent amount, but he only pays it because that’s the legal minimum CMS tells him to.

I’m self-employed and work part-time so my son can do after-school activities — he’s football mad and trains/plays four times a week. I’m essentially raising him alone; my dad moved 40 miles away, and I have no relationship with my mum. I rarely get a break, but that’s been the reality since the start.

I’ve never asked for an increase, but life is much more expensive now. £1,277 doesn’t go as far as it did six years ago, and £720,000 a year is a huge income.

To put it into perspective — CMS only calculates maintenance on a maximum salary of £156,000 a year. My ex earns over four times that, but I still only get the amount they’d set for £156k — just over 2% of his actual income. Unless I go to court for a “top-up order”, that’s all I’ll ever get.

AIBU to ask for more?

OP posts:
converseandjeans · 13/08/2025 21:00

vivainsomnia · 13/08/2025 20:52

Funny, when I was a single mum, working FT because working PT was not an option....because I got 0 maintenance for 2 children, I managed to find ways so my kids could still do activities after school. It really wasn't that hard to ask other parents if they'd be interested in taking my kids from school and I would bring their back home and parents were very happy with that option.

You can twist as you want but the football is nothing more than an excuse. In between the maintenance and UC, I suspect you get much more than the average single mother working FT. Yet, you think you should get even more from him.

Don't forget that in 10 years time, you'll have no maintenance and no or very little UC coming in, oh and I guess a very small pension fund if any. 10 years go by very quickly. I'd focus on preparing for the future rather than trying to get even more from him.

@vivainsomnia if son is playing academy football it really does need a parent available to take them more than once a week. It’s unlikely there will be mates up the road who can take him & OP bring back as the kids will come from all over.

Also he will be paying loads of tax. If he plays a sport he might not always earn that much. So I think the suggestion of asking to contribute to a savings account isn’t unreasonable.

Is he also a footballer? If so then perhaps he will understand the commitment to the academy?

Rosscameasdoody · 13/08/2025 21:00

vivainsomnia · 13/08/2025 20:52

Funny, when I was a single mum, working FT because working PT was not an option....because I got 0 maintenance for 2 children, I managed to find ways so my kids could still do activities after school. It really wasn't that hard to ask other parents if they'd be interested in taking my kids from school and I would bring their back home and parents were very happy with that option.

You can twist as you want but the football is nothing more than an excuse. In between the maintenance and UC, I suspect you get much more than the average single mother working FT. Yet, you think you should get even more from him.

Don't forget that in 10 years time, you'll have no maintenance and no or very little UC coming in, oh and I guess a very small pension fund if any. 10 years go by very quickly. I'd focus on preparing for the future rather than trying to get even more from him.

And you don’t think OP is trying to prepare for her childs future ? His dad earns a hefty sum and OP’s son won’t have anything like the lifestyle or opportunities that the other three kids will have. At the very least his dad should be offering private school and all the other privileges his other children get. OP has made it clear that it’s not about her, it’s about her son. I don’t know why women come to MN for advice - most just end up getting a kicking.

OneNeatBlueOrca · 13/08/2025 20:58

Rosscameasdoody · 13/08/2025 20:53

Did you miss the part where OP says her son has a healthy savings account waiting for him, so she’s clearly looking after his future needs. Her son won’t be having anything like the lifestyle the other three kids have, and if the money goes towards a better education and a better life for the child, what’s the problem. And saying that OP benefited from refusing her son to see his dad with his girlfriend is the height of hypocrisy. Women who post that they allow their children to meet their new partners have their arses handed to them on a plate on MN. So why is it fine for a man to do it ?

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There's something a bit less threatening about women, though. It is completely different when a woman introduces a man to her children.Because they are by definition more of a threat.

Rightly or wrongly, I think that a woman introducing a new man into her young children's lives is more of a risk than a man introducing a woman to a newborn baby with the babies mother present too. What exactly do you think the woman was going to do in those circumstances?

A male partner i would be a lot more cautious of around children until you knew him really well., but women less cautious depending on the circumstances.

One look at this site tells you the men are often arse holes who can't be trusted to look after their own children properly and the woman gets left with it all. There are loads of threads on this board of stories of women who have become step mothers, and their partner has pretty much dumped their children on them to be raised. And women do step up even though these kids aren't theirs.

You ve even heard it from a family lawyer on this board the what he's paying is adequate and yet you still won't leave it alone.

Bananafofana · 13/08/2025 20:56

I wish you all the best OP. If your ex is a pro sportsman he might be inclined to support your son’s football development with specific support : eg when he gets a bit older there are incredible football camps in Europe in the summer holidays (that are a couple of grand a week). Maybe focus on that angle?

Rosscameasdoody · 13/08/2025 20:56

northernballer · 13/08/2025 20:53

For all the people saying it doesn't cost that much per month to raise a child - surely housing costs that? I get the OP lives there as well but that maintenance payment wouldn't even cover my mortgage!

Exactly. Some of the comments here are disgusting.

FrippEnos · 13/08/2025 20:55

JHound · 13/08/2025 20:52

Where did she say her ex’s job is as an athlete?

Pashpash24 · Today 20:21

He plays sport for a living.

Squishymallows · 13/08/2025 20:54

HermioneWeasley · 13/08/2025 19:37

I’d ask whether he’d consider setting up a savings account for your DS so it’s clear he’s not funding you

I think this is a great suggestion

Rosscameasdoody · 13/08/2025 20:53

OneNeatBlueOrca · 13/08/2025 20:51

You actually benefited from refusing to allow him to see your son with his girlfriend. I get it, you felt it was too soon. But if you hadn't done that, your son would probably be very much a part of his dad's, and his now, wife and half siblings lives.

If he hadnt walked off in a strop, your son would probably be spending fifty percent of his time with his dad and you would be entitled to absolutely nothing because your son lived with him equal amounts of time.

That is quite a huge sum of money to have been getting all this time. It doesn't cost that much per month to raise one child. I'd watch rocking the boat too much and I'd look into increasing your working hours if youre struggling for money.

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Did you miss the part where OP says her son has a healthy savings account waiting for him, so she’s clearly looking after his future needs. Her son won’t be having anything like the lifestyle the other three kids have, and if the money goes towards a better education and a better life for the child, what’s the problem. And saying that OP benefited from refusing her son to see his dad with his girlfriend is the height of hypocrisy. Women who post that they allow their children to meet their new partners have their arses handed to them on a plate on MN. So why is it fine for a man to do it ?

northernballer · 13/08/2025 20:53

For all the people saying it doesn't cost that much per month to raise a child - surely housing costs that? I get the OP lives there as well but that maintenance payment wouldn't even cover my mortgage!

Pashpash24 · 13/08/2025 20:53

OhCalmTheFuckDownMargaret · 13/08/2025 20:47

So every month, exactly £1,277.50 is being spent on your son? Because that’s what this is about, the money is solely to be spent on your son. Don’t make the mistake a previous poster made of finding out how much he earned and getting greedy. Remember this isn’t maintenance to support you. It’s just for your son and if you’re spending £1,277.50 on him every month then he’s having quite a comfortable life really.

Maintenance goes towards the roof I put over my son’s head, the bills, the clothes on his back all that. My rent alone is £950 a month. This is the point I was trying to make to somebody earlier. When my son was born, my rent was £550 a month. It’s almost doubled. No I’m not absolutely in my arse skint every month but truthfully there are months that are difficult and I completely get that a lot of the UK are in the same boat. I’m super lucky to get what I get of course I am. But when I have a son who’s dad is still doing the absolute bare minimum three years in I find it really frustrating.

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vivainsomnia · 13/08/2025 20:52

Funny, when I was a single mum, working FT because working PT was not an option....because I got 0 maintenance for 2 children, I managed to find ways so my kids could still do activities after school. It really wasn't that hard to ask other parents if they'd be interested in taking my kids from school and I would bring their back home and parents were very happy with that option.

You can twist as you want but the football is nothing more than an excuse. In between the maintenance and UC, I suspect you get much more than the average single mother working FT. Yet, you think you should get even more from him.

Don't forget that in 10 years time, you'll have no maintenance and no or very little UC coming in, oh and I guess a very small pension fund if any. 10 years go by very quickly. I'd focus on preparing for the future rather than trying to get even more from him.

butterfly0404 · 13/08/2025 20:52

Relative to his income it's not much, especially if you want to save for him going to uni, future house deposit etc.

If he is a pro sportman, he may not be earning at that level for very long, particularly if it's football, as others have said his income may drop considerably in future. Secure what you can for your son in line with hiw his other children are provider for. Your son should be treated no differently.

JHound · 13/08/2025 20:52

FrippEnos · 13/08/2025 20:49

It depends what sport he plays. if its football he has probably topped out his player earnings. If its bowling or curling then he has many more years but wouldn't earn that much.
After playing the jobs and earnings are significantly reduced.

From the OP's DS's schedule he is probably in the 11 to 14 yr old bracket, so the ex could be anywhere from early to late 30s.

Where did she say her ex’s job is as an athlete?

Florencesndzebedee · 13/08/2025 20:51

Don’t know why people are being so snippy with you. Definitely try to discuss setting up an ISA or savings account that he can contribute towards for your son.

OneNeatBlueOrca · 13/08/2025 20:51

You actually benefited from refusing to allow him to see your son with his girlfriend. I get it, you felt it was too soon. But if you hadn't done that, your son would probably be very much a part of his dad's, and his now, wife and half siblings lives.

If he hadnt walked off in a strop, your son would probably be spending fifty percent of his time with his dad and you would be entitled to absolutely nothing because your son lived with him equal amounts of time.

That is quite a huge sum of money to have been getting all this time. It doesn't cost that much per month to raise one child. I'd watch rocking the boat too much and I'd look into increasing your working hours if youre struggling for money.

FrippEnos · 13/08/2025 20:49

JHound · 13/08/2025 20:38

I think he likely has some more years good earnings. I am in my 40s and earn almost double what I was in my mid 30s.

It depends what sport he plays. if its football he has probably topped out his player earnings. If its bowling or curling then he has many more years but wouldn't earn that much.
After playing the jobs and earnings are significantly reduced.

From the OP's DS's schedule he is probably in the 11 to 14 yr old bracket, so the ex could be anywhere from early to late 30s.

Rosscameasdoody · 13/08/2025 20:49

FortheloveofCheesus · 13/08/2025 20:45

He is unlikely to want to pay cash that will improve your lifestyle

I would ask him politely if he'd consider funding:

  • school fees
  • sports training fees or music lessons
  • regular savings into a junior ISA in DS name

All on the basis he pays it directly for DS rather than giving you cash you use as you wish. Appeal to the fact that he has 3 other DC and DS deserves the privileges his brothers and sisters likely get.

This.

Pashpash24 · 13/08/2025 20:49

PamIsAVolleyballChamp · 13/08/2025 20:41

This, is the extra money for you or your son? What does he need it for?
take him on more days out, and go on more holidays together
Sounds like you stuff. Do you think parents who work full time to provide for their children aren't providing a 'good quality of life'? Slightly judgy!

Look I completely get that. It might seem like that’s for me. But he’s never ever taking him anywhere other than an arcade. He’s been in his life for three years now and he’s never even had him overnight. So yeah if he paid more it would all go on making my son’s life better/ more enjoyable in anyway I could. If he took him away on the holidays his other children get to go on then I’d absolutely love that. But he doesn’t. He’s never taken him anywhere. My sons got a lovely savings account waiting for him when he’s older and when the money does eventually stop I know regardless of whether his dads still in the picture I can help him out with whatever he needs. I completely understand people might think I’m being greedy but honestly I’m his mum and I adore him and if I could do anymore for him I would .

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Rosscameasdoody · 13/08/2025 20:49

tripleginandtonic · 13/08/2025 20:42

If he's a championship footballer he might well pay more to enable his son to play too. Maybe ask him for support with that. In retrospect you'd have done better by your son to allow his dad's gf to see him from the off, they might have some kind of relationship now.

I love how hypocritical MN is. How many threads do we see ripping women to shreds for introducing their children to new partners too soon. Yet it’s fine for a man to do it ?

OhCalmTheFuckDownMargaret · 13/08/2025 20:47

So every month, exactly £1,277.50 is being spent on your son? Because that’s what this is about, the money is solely to be spent on your son. Don’t make the mistake a previous poster made of finding out how much he earned and getting greedy. Remember this isn’t maintenance to support you. It’s just for your son and if you’re spending £1,277.50 on him every month then he’s having quite a comfortable life really.

Rituelec · 13/08/2025 20:46

CircuitMaze · 13/08/2025 19:27

You can ask him but that’s a substantial amount of money per month for one child. Many a person on here is barely getting £25/week if that per child, and while that’s nothing to do with your situation sometimes some perspective is needed.

I get £15 a week for 3 kids. Not each 😆

FortheloveofCheesus · 13/08/2025 20:45

He is unlikely to want to pay cash that will improve your lifestyle

I would ask him politely if he'd consider funding:

  • school fees
  • sports training fees or music lessons
  • regular savings into a junior ISA in DS name

All on the basis he pays it directly for DS rather than giving you cash you use as you wish. Appeal to the fact that he has 3 other DC and DS deserves the privileges his brothers and sisters likely get.

babyproblems · 13/08/2025 20:44

Nomdemare · 13/08/2025 19:23

I’d be interested in finding out if his other children are being privately educated and whether he’d fund that instead of paying more via CM

I thought this too…

Pashpash24 · 13/08/2025 20:43

HopscotchBanana · 13/08/2025 20:29

Yeah yeah...

So what time is the "evening" football practice then.

Because that's the third time you've pretended not to hear the question.

Why are you taking such an angry tone?

“Because that's the third time you've pretended not to hear the question.”

I’m sorry i didn’t seen it before the post has a million comments.

So his current schedule after school is:

Monday - football development at an academy at 5:45pm
Tuesday - swimming lessons at 4:30pm
Wednesday - off
Thursday - Football training for his team he plays for at 6pm
Friday- football development again at 4:30pm
Satursay - off
Sunday - Football game for his team

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tripleginandtonic · 13/08/2025 20:42

If he's a championship footballer he might well pay more to enable his son to play too. Maybe ask him for support with that. In retrospect you'd have done better by your son to allow his dad's gf to see him from the off, they might have some kind of relationship now.