Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

AIBU to think my ex should pay more child maintenance when he earns £720k a year?

462 replies

Pashpash24 · 13/08/2025 19:14

I’ll try to keep this as short as possible while giving some back story.

I was with my ex-partner for four years. We had a son together, but he walked out before he was born. He saw him a few times as a newborn, but I had asked that he didn’t bring his new partner. My son was six weeks old when he turned up at my door with her, even though I’d said it was too soon.

He took me to court saying she should be allowed to meet him. The court agreed it was too soon and suggested maybe when the baby was older.

Because of that, he told me he would never see his son again. I was devastated and said fine, she can meet him, because I didn’t want him to walk away. But he still refused and never saw him again.

For six years, he had no contact — no visits, no messages, nothing. The only thing he did was pay child maintenance. It was a decent amount (£1,277.50 a month), and I never asked for more.

He went on to have three more children with his now wife. I just got on with life until one day my son came out of school and asked, “I must have a dad, right?” I’d never told him about his father because I didn’t want him to feel abandoned.

When he started asking more questions, I texted his dad to say I was going to tell him the truth — I wasn’t going to raise him on a lie. I’d messaged over the years, even sent photos, and he’d read them on WhatsApp but never replied. So I didn’t expect a response this time either.

Surprisingly, he replied and said maybe it was time to meet. This was when my son was six (he’s now nearly nine). In the last three years, he’s probably met him in person about 10 times. He calls roughly once every 10 days, which I think is poor — it should’ve progressed a lot more by now.

Anyway, to the point. I recently logged into my Child Maintenance account after receiving an unusual notification. It showed his salary: £720,000 a year.

I’ve always been paid £1,277.50 a month because that’s what CMS caps it at. He could earn £1 million a week and I’d still receive that same amount — you have to go to court for any increase.

Would he be able to afford more? Absolutely. I know it’s a decent amount, but he only pays it because that’s the legal minimum CMS tells him to.

I’m self-employed and work part-time so my son can do after-school activities — he’s football mad and trains/plays four times a week. I’m essentially raising him alone; my dad moved 40 miles away, and I have no relationship with my mum. I rarely get a break, but that’s been the reality since the start.

I’ve never asked for an increase, but life is much more expensive now. £1,277 doesn’t go as far as it did six years ago, and £720,000 a year is a huge income.

To put it into perspective — CMS only calculates maintenance on a maximum salary of £156,000 a year. My ex earns over four times that, but I still only get the amount they’d set for £156k — just over 2% of his actual income. Unless I go to court for a “top-up order”, that’s all I’ll ever get.

AIBU to ask for more?

OP posts:
OneNeatBlueOrca · 13/08/2025 21:38

namechangetheworld · 13/08/2025 21:32

The vile replies on this thread absolutely reek of jealousy.

You can guarantee he's spending far more on his other three children than he gives his firstborn, in school fees alone. Why should your son miss out, just because he decided to ditch his mother? I'd rinse him for whatever you can, and I don't care how awful that sounds.

Edited

The whole post reeks of jealousy from the original poster. She didn't end up married to him with all that money.

MikeRafone · 13/08/2025 21:38

JHound

He plays sport for a living

4forksache · 13/08/2025 21:36

You’d have a better chance if you ask for an investment in your son’s name or for private school. Otherwise you seem a bit ungrateful.

Pashpash24 · 13/08/2025 21:35

LIGHTSNACKER · 13/08/2025 21:22

FFS, what is wrong with people on here today? The OP has to pay rent and CMS will go towards that too, so in reality the amount she gets now is not a lot even if it is more than the majority of parents on here get. She is also a lone parent and has to manage everything. It is hard work, and yes people do work full time as lone parents and manage blah blah blah, but it isn't easy.

OP - you sound like you want more to make life better for your son and I think you should go for it.

Honestly I live in a rented house in Leeds in a really bog standard area and the rent on the house is £1100 a month. I could move to a really rough shit hole and I’d still be paying £800+. I have been saving and saving and saving for a mortgage and I’m almost there. Council tax alone is £150 a month with my discount. Don’t even get me started on car insurance. I can’t claim UC but I can claim help with childcare but that’s it. I know everyone keeps cribbing me for working part time but I actually earn okay money but I still do struggle sometimes.

OP posts:
TesChique · 13/08/2025 21:34

abracadabra1980 · 13/08/2025 21:32

OMG please try and extract what you can - for your son's sake. He's getting away with paying you peanuts and should by rights, have similar opportunities to his step siblings ie education etc.. If you feel bad, just put your best Lauryn Goodman head on - she had no shame!

Last line is possibly the worst advice ive heard on here

abracadabra1980 · 13/08/2025 21:32

OMG please try and extract what you can - for your son's sake. He's getting away with paying you peanuts and should by rights, have similar opportunities to his step siblings ie education etc.. If you feel bad, just put your best Lauryn Goodman head on - she had no shame!

namechangetheworld · 13/08/2025 21:32

The vile replies on this thread absolutely reek of jealousy.

You can guarantee he's spending far more on his other three children than he gives his firstborn, in school fees alone. Why should your son miss out, just because he decided to ditch his mother? I'd rinse him for whatever you can, and I don't care how awful that sounds.

LlynTegid · 13/08/2025 21:31

I think reasonable to ask for more, it would seem appropriate to me that any extra goes directly to fund something for your DS. Yes his earnings as a professional sportsman are unlikely to continue forever, but that does not take away the hear and now.

The law is outdated in my opinion regarding parental responsibility. I did not expect it to change between 2019 and 2022 for reasons which do not need to be spelt out, but there is a new government who should address this.

OneNeatBlueOrca · 13/08/2025 21:31

ScrollingLeaves · 13/08/2025 21:28

I think men do something like 98% of crime.

Well, exactly. It's absolutely ludicrous for women to say the child's father's new female partner is just as much of a threat as a mothers new male partner.

They just are not. Purely based on statistics, a child would be much safer with dad's new girlfriend than mum's new boyfriend.

It's ludicrous to suggest otherwise and an affront to women to suggest that they're just as dangerous as a man towards children.

Rosscameasdoody · 13/08/2025 21:31

Wisterical · 13/08/2025 21:29

Oh come on, if you want your son to have a better quality of life you need to do more than work as a part-time cleaner. His dad pays plenty and UC will be paying most of your rent. You're doing fine.

UC won’t be paying any more of OP’s rent that the local housing authority rate, and it isn’t a lot.

Rosscameasdoody · 13/08/2025 21:30

DCorMe · 13/08/2025 21:21

The bare minimum? Hardly that. I don’t know anyone else who has ever had this about of child maintenance, do you?
He has 3 other kids that he is also supporting

Because his bare minimum is higher than most doesn’t change the fact that it’s still the bare minimum, and his son won’t have anything like the lifestyle of the other three children who will have access to everything a £27k a month salary can provide.

Wisterical · 13/08/2025 21:29

Oh come on, if you want your son to have a better quality of life you need to do more than work as a part-time cleaner. His dad pays plenty and UC will be paying most of your rent. You're doing fine.

ConfusedSloth · 13/08/2025 21:28

LIGHTSNACKER · 13/08/2025 21:24

A 720k salary a year pays 27k a month after tax. I think he could well afford more and still.support his 3 other kids quite comfortably.

The fact that you’re quite spectacularly missing is that NONE of his children are legally entitled to a single penny beyond the minimum required to provide for their needs. Needs, not wants. None of them are legally entitled to be treated fairly or equally. None of them.

If he chooses to give one child, whether it’s OP’s or one of the others, more or less - that’s his personal choice. He could have bank accounts and trusts and an allocation in his will that OP knows nothing about - or, he could refuse to provide any luxuries at all for any of his children.

OP has no legal right to anything more than she’s getting, no legal reason to get it and no legal basis for applying for an order. She’d be wasting her money to try and get one.

ScrollingLeaves · 13/08/2025 21:28

OneNeatBlueOrca · 13/08/2025 21:25

Sex is no indicator of whether someone is safe to be around your children.

I think you'll find it is. There's a reason that the male prison population is so much larger than the female prison population.

Men are much more prone to violent crime, sex crimes and abusing children in way that women are not.

The female prison population is absolutely tiny compared to men's.

I think men do something like 98% of crime.

Teasloth · 13/08/2025 21:28

Op people here are being assholes and just sound jealous. This man is his father. He's not stepping up physically with time so I see no reason at all why he shouldn't contribute proportionally to his salary and means.
Even doubling what he provides would barely make even a dent in his salary.

What you earn and how many hours you work is totally irrelevant.

Other people (me included) hardly getting any maintenance is totally irrelevant.

I would bring it up to him. I'd explain as he's getting older his costs and clubs costs etc are going up. I'd say that you know his payments are capped and so you wanted to ask him if he would rather adjust them himself, or if he would prefer going theough the proper channels.

You are not a money grabber for wanting the other parent to provide proportionally for their child.

I have a child that does very specific clubs at specific times. I have a job that works around facilitating his interests. At his age I wasn't really into anything specific so when you have a child that really, really loves something, it's an amazing thing to help them persue that.

I notice hardly anyone mentioning that dad could have him a day a week so you could work more hours. Funny that even as solo parents we still get the shit that we should do better

If you worked 24/7 you'd be being told that your kid deserved a life and his own interests too

Go for it. Ask him and if he agrees good for you

TesChique · 13/08/2025 21:27

Is your son genuinely going without?

Or are you just being a money grub?

ScrollingLeaves · 13/08/2025 21:26

Why not say to him that you know he pays all he is expected to but explain how things have gone up a lot and it would help a lot to have more so as to have less pressure to try to pay for football.

Do not be adversarial or let on you know his salary/feel his salary means he ‘owes’ more. ( Of course I sympathise with you but I am trying to think what might actually get you the extra help.)

If he helps out more over football, perhaps he’ll build up more interest in your DS and do even more.

OneNeatBlueOrca · 13/08/2025 21:26

ConfusedSloth · 13/08/2025 21:22

I know - I’m also one of those lawyers. I was being sarcastic.

Oh gosh I am sorry. I read it far too quickly and didn't pick up on the sarcasm.

My sincerest apologies.

MaidOfSteel · 13/08/2025 21:26

You’re getting some really nasty replies, OP. When I see stuff like that, I’m quite ashamed that women can behave like this to each other. I can only think it is jealousy.

I assume your little boy has inherited his football skill from his dad and, if he’s showing real promise, then I’m not surprised you want to nurture it.

OneNeatBlueOrca · 13/08/2025 21:25

Sex is no indicator of whether someone is safe to be around your children.

I think you'll find it is. There's a reason that the male prison population is so much larger than the female prison population.

Men are much more prone to violent crime, sex crimes and abusing children in way that women are not.

The female prison population is absolutely tiny compared to men's.

iamnotalemon · 13/08/2025 21:25

northernballer · 13/08/2025 21:17

I agree she shouldn't get UC if she's chooaing to work part time, but the way we absolve the very high earning parent of paying more than the bare minimum for his child isn't great either.

So get the father to pay more, don’t accept UC and work full time then. Oh no, wait…

WhereIsMyJumper · 13/08/2025 21:24

MN gets even more mean when it’s hot. It’s mad.

Anyway, here is my take OP. I think if there is a reasonable chance you could increase CM then you should absolutely do it. Flip it on its head, no self respecting mother who earned that much wouldn’t consider using some of that wealth to make their child’s life better.

Not the same circumstance at all - me and exH share custody of DS 50/50. I earn a bit more than exH. The career progression at my company could put me on around double what exH earns. He doesn’t struggle financially, but I still wouldn’t feel right either not offering to pay him some CMS each month or at least put a bigger chunk than exH in DS’ savings every month.

Ignore the hate because you’ve managed to find a work/life balance that works for you.

LIGHTSNACKER · 13/08/2025 21:24

DCorMe · 13/08/2025 21:21

The bare minimum? Hardly that. I don’t know anyone else who has ever had this about of child maintenance, do you?
He has 3 other kids that he is also supporting

A 720k salary a year pays 27k a month after tax. I think he could well afford more and still.support his 3 other kids quite comfortably.

ConfusedSloth · 13/08/2025 21:22

OneNeatBlueOrca · 13/08/2025 21:21

Oh believe me the lawyers, aren't jealous. We generally look at some clients with utter despair.

I can't remember ever once in my entire career being jealous of a client. Quite the opposite.

I know - I’m also one of those lawyers. I was being sarcastic.

LIGHTSNACKER · 13/08/2025 21:22

FFS, what is wrong with people on here today? The OP has to pay rent and CMS will go towards that too, so in reality the amount she gets now is not a lot even if it is more than the majority of parents on here get. She is also a lone parent and has to manage everything. It is hard work, and yes people do work full time as lone parents and manage blah blah blah, but it isn't easy.

OP - you sound like you want more to make life better for your son and I think you should go for it.