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AIBU to think my ex should pay more child maintenance when he earns £720k a year?

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Pashpash24 · 13/08/2025 19:14

I’ll try to keep this as short as possible while giving some back story.

I was with my ex-partner for four years. We had a son together, but he walked out before he was born. He saw him a few times as a newborn, but I had asked that he didn’t bring his new partner. My son was six weeks old when he turned up at my door with her, even though I’d said it was too soon.

He took me to court saying she should be allowed to meet him. The court agreed it was too soon and suggested maybe when the baby was older.

Because of that, he told me he would never see his son again. I was devastated and said fine, she can meet him, because I didn’t want him to walk away. But he still refused and never saw him again.

For six years, he had no contact — no visits, no messages, nothing. The only thing he did was pay child maintenance. It was a decent amount (£1,277.50 a month), and I never asked for more.

He went on to have three more children with his now wife. I just got on with life until one day my son came out of school and asked, “I must have a dad, right?” I’d never told him about his father because I didn’t want him to feel abandoned.

When he started asking more questions, I texted his dad to say I was going to tell him the truth — I wasn’t going to raise him on a lie. I’d messaged over the years, even sent photos, and he’d read them on WhatsApp but never replied. So I didn’t expect a response this time either.

Surprisingly, he replied and said maybe it was time to meet. This was when my son was six (he’s now nearly nine). In the last three years, he’s probably met him in person about 10 times. He calls roughly once every 10 days, which I think is poor — it should’ve progressed a lot more by now.

Anyway, to the point. I recently logged into my Child Maintenance account after receiving an unusual notification. It showed his salary: £720,000 a year.

I’ve always been paid £1,277.50 a month because that’s what CMS caps it at. He could earn £1 million a week and I’d still receive that same amount — you have to go to court for any increase.

Would he be able to afford more? Absolutely. I know it’s a decent amount, but he only pays it because that’s the legal minimum CMS tells him to.

I’m self-employed and work part-time so my son can do after-school activities — he’s football mad and trains/plays four times a week. I’m essentially raising him alone; my dad moved 40 miles away, and I have no relationship with my mum. I rarely get a break, but that’s been the reality since the start.

I’ve never asked for an increase, but life is much more expensive now. £1,277 doesn’t go as far as it did six years ago, and £720,000 a year is a huge income.

To put it into perspective — CMS only calculates maintenance on a maximum salary of £156,000 a year. My ex earns over four times that, but I still only get the amount they’d set for £156k — just over 2% of his actual income. Unless I go to court for a “top-up order”, that’s all I’ll ever get.

AIBU to ask for more?

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Overdonecabbage · 01/11/2025 16:55

tangerinemagic · 13/08/2025 21:57

He will pay 45% tax on that plus childcare for his other 3 children. No way his partner would have them all home. Plus mortgage, plus holidays, cost of living and child maintenance. Still very good money but probably he works long hours and sacrifices a lot. To give you an idea I earn £200k a year and pay £60k in London to have two DCs in nursery to work. Plus I’m taxed 40%, country loves fleecing the wealthy.

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You pay £60k a year for two nursery places? @tangerinemagic

Hettiee · 18/08/2025 20:55

WickedElpheba · 17/08/2025 20:30

OP I think you're being unreasonable

He has a responsibility to pay for his son but he sounds like he's doesn't that. He doesn't have to share a bigger portion of his money with you just because you had a child together.

If I split with my DH I wouldn't expect to give him loads more money if I earned more and he chose to work part time. I'm sure you wouldn't either.

This isn't about her working part time though. It's about the father paying a proportion of his salary. As he earns a lot, the figure is high but that's what happens when you have a rich dad - you tend to have more money.

If you and your DH split you would have to pay a percentage of your salary, irrespective of what your ex earned or how many hours they worked. Because you are a parent and you owe it to your child. It's really nothing to do with your ex.

StarCourt · 18/08/2025 19:26

MarvellousMonsters · 17/08/2025 18:53

But why should the ex foot the housing bill for it?

Because it’s his child. Because he’s done fuck all but pay the mandatory minimum. Because his eldest child deserves to be as secure as his three younger children. Buying a small house for his son (and the OP) makes sure they are always securely housed, no matter what. If OP goes on to have a new relationship and more children and needs to move to a bigger home, the ‘child support’ house can be rented out until the son is old enough to inherit it. Or whatever. But no matter which way you look at this, the absent father is being a cheapskate and a dickhead.

absolutely what @MarvellousMonsters said

WickedElpheba · 17/08/2025 20:30

OP I think you're being unreasonable

He has a responsibility to pay for his son but he sounds like he's doesn't that. He doesn't have to share a bigger portion of his money with you just because you had a child together.

If I split with my DH I wouldn't expect to give him loads more money if I earned more and he chose to work part time. I'm sure you wouldn't either.

MarvellousMonsters · 17/08/2025 18:53

FrippEnos · 16/08/2025 18:44

She can see who she wants.
But why should the ex foot the housing bill for it?

If she is in a relationship
Would you be happy for her and the DS to live in the new partners house? or does he have to foot the bill for that as well?

But why should the ex foot the housing bill for it?

Because it’s his child. Because he’s done fuck all but pay the mandatory minimum. Because his eldest child deserves to be as secure as his three younger children. Buying a small house for his son (and the OP) makes sure they are always securely housed, no matter what. If OP goes on to have a new relationship and more children and needs to move to a bigger home, the ‘child support’ house can be rented out until the son is old enough to inherit it. Or whatever. But no matter which way you look at this, the absent father is being a cheapskate and a dickhead.

Allisnotlost1 · 17/08/2025 00:24

Rosscameasdoody · 16/08/2025 19:52

This is one of two posters here who clearly haven’t read, or are choosing to ignore what the OP actually said in favour of making it up as they go along to support their narrative that OP is a feckless scrounger. There is no information as to why her partner left, and no one is making the timescale connection here. He left at some point while OP was pregnant and had a new partner by the time she had the baby. And as you say, there was no suggestion that he didn;t want the child until OP said she didn’t want the partner anywhere near the baby. All of this has been ignored. And to be honest, I don’t think I would want a woman I suspected of cheating with my partner while I was pregnant anywhere near my child either.

Both of them seem bonkers. And, despite wanting to morality police the OP, neither seem to have drawn the only obvious conclusion that the father was cheating with the new woman before he walked out. Apparently men cheating is fine.

Rosscameasdoody · 16/08/2025 19:52

Allisnotlost1 · 15/08/2025 12:45

From the first post: ‘I was with my ex-partner for four years. We had a son together, but he walked out before he was born. He saw him a few times as a newborn, but I had asked that he didn’t bring his new partner. My son was six weeks old when he turned up at my door with her, even though I’d said it was too soon.’

He wasn’t ‘a friend with benefits’ and the OP never said any such thing.

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This is one of two posters here who clearly haven’t read, or are choosing to ignore what the OP actually said in favour of making it up as they go along to support their narrative that OP is a feckless scrounger. There is no information as to why her partner left, and no one is making the timescale connection here. He left at some point while OP was pregnant and had a new partner by the time she had the baby. And as you say, there was no suggestion that he didn;t want the child until OP said she didn’t want the partner anywhere near the baby. All of this has been ignored. And to be honest, I don’t think I would want a woman I suspected of cheating with my partner while I was pregnant anywhere near my child either.

Rosscameasdoody · 16/08/2025 19:47

Dramatic · 16/08/2025 12:43

It's wild to me that if the man came on here and wrote "my ex, who I walked out on when she was pregnant, wouldn't let my new girlfriend come with me to visit my newborn son so I abandoned him for years and now she wants more CMS even though I pay the minimum which is capped well below what I earn" he would be absolutely torn to shreds, I bet not a single soul would be blaming the ex or defending him in any way. MN is wild sometimes.

Absolutely this.

FrippEnos · 16/08/2025 18:44

MarvellousMonsters · 16/08/2025 17:42

I suggested he should buy her a house, just a 2-3 bedroom big enough for her and their son to live in comfortably forever. Why should her living in a house her ex provided mean she is banned from ever having another relationship ever again? What actual bullshit.

As several people have said, if he’s a pro-sports person and his high earning potential is limited due to his age, he should set his eldest child up in a secure home for life, whilst he still has enough disposable income to do it. You can be pretty sure he’s protected his second family along the same lines.

She can see who she wants.
But why should the ex foot the housing bill for it?

If she is in a relationship
Would you be happy for her and the DS to live in the new partners house? or does he have to foot the bill for that as well?

MarvellousMonsters · 16/08/2025 17:42

FrippEnos · 15/08/2025 14:54

I wonder if that would make the poster that said the ex should buy her a house change their mind about that.

I suggested he should buy her a house, just a 2-3 bedroom big enough for her and their son to live in comfortably forever. Why should her living in a house her ex provided mean she is banned from ever having another relationship ever again? What actual bullshit.

As several people have said, if he’s a pro-sports person and his high earning potential is limited due to his age, he should set his eldest child up in a secure home for life, whilst he still has enough disposable income to do it. You can be pretty sure he’s protected his second family along the same lines.

Dramatic · 16/08/2025 12:43

It's wild to me that if the man came on here and wrote "my ex, who I walked out on when she was pregnant, wouldn't let my new girlfriend come with me to visit my newborn son so I abandoned him for years and now she wants more CMS even though I pay the minimum which is capped well below what I earn" he would be absolutely torn to shreds, I bet not a single soul would be blaming the ex or defending him in any way. MN is wild sometimes.

Rosscameasdoody · 16/08/2025 06:57

Crushed23 · 16/08/2025 00:56

Why on earth wouldn’t she get child benefit? Didn’t they remove/increase the threshold recently too?

I didn’t say she didn’t get child benefit, there was some discussion upthread about UC contributions and OP confirmed she doesn’t claim it. All benefits were uprated in April and the cap is still in place.

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Crushed23 · 16/08/2025 00:56

Rosscameasdoody · 15/08/2025 21:29

She doesn’t get benefits. Just childcare support. And she works.

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Why on earth wouldn’t she get child benefit? Didn’t they remove/increase the threshold recently too?

SallyDraperGetInHere · 16/08/2025 00:40

It is truly baffling to me that there are so many posters in this thread that would argue with vehemence that it’s okay for a father of four children to treat his children inequitably. How people can argue that it is okay for him to provide for one of his children so much lesser than his other three is beyond me.

Rosscameasdoody · 15/08/2025 21:29

HopscotchBanana · 15/08/2025 18:34

How do you know they don’t live together? And how do you know OP didn’t live with the previous partner? You don’t, you’ve convinced yourself of that.

It's called using context. When she says (one of three) rent figures she was paying when the child was born. She wouldn't have been the sole payer of the rent in a tiny house, unless it was just her there.

Just like you convinced yourself that she wasn’t in a relationship with him - a friend with benefits you said

I think rather OP has convinced herself she was in one. It doesn't take much to work out the most likely scenario. Not the only possibility, no. But definitely the most likely, given the updates as well

but that was not true.

Says who? Looks even more likely now we know about the other pregnancy.

It suggests a pattern of behavior to have children outside the confines of a stable relationship in which you at least live together.

It's absolutely relevant.

She's complaining she cant work because of her son and needs maintenance and benefits over an above what she gets and yet she's trying to do it again.

Bingo.

She doesn’t get benefits. Just childcare support. And she works.

Thehobbit2013 · 15/08/2025 21:29

Wow the ex is clearing over £30k a month after tax and the amount of posters giving her shit for asking him to increase his contribution from £1700 to approx £3k. Yes I get that it’s more than most get but it it’s a drop in the ocean for the man. Even if she didn’t need it she could save it so her son could get a decent start in life which will be nothing compared with what his other three kids will likely get

Rosscameasdoody · 15/08/2025 21:28

OneNeatBlueOrca · 15/08/2025 11:01

I get it, of course.She was vulnerable and didn't want it thrown in her face that her ex never had a relationship with her but was quite happy to start a relationship with someone else.

Of course she shouldn't have had to have her in her home.

Any kind of compromise would be when the baby's older and you are able to take him out.He can see the girlfriend, but I don't want to see her.

it was a no, no no way, never and in that order. Then when he did go, she changed her mind and try to backtrack.

OP says she had a four year relationship with her ex. Nowhere in her posts has she said they didn’t live together, and the fact that she said he ‘walked out’ suggests they did.

The timeline also suggests that he could easily have been having an affair with this woman while OP was pregnant and again there is nothing in any of her posts to suggest he didn;t want the baby - the relationship could have broken down for any number of reasons, including him having an affair, and it could well have been beyond the time when abortion was an option.

All of this has been pointed out several times, but still you insist on inventing things to suit your narrative.

Rosscameasdoody · 15/08/2025 21:21

Newnamesameme · 15/08/2025 09:43

You need to calm the fuck down. You are way too personal. This is someone's real life you are frothing at, go get a cup of tea or something

None of what this poster is saying is evident in anything OP has said - they are making it up as they go along to suit their own bitter narratives and I suspect are projecting.

Rosscameasdoody · 15/08/2025 21:16

HopscotchBanana · 15/08/2025 14:39

What OP called a 4yr relationship, I suspect he would call different. They didn't even live together. She was in a £550 a month rental. Which has increased to £950 a month rental or an £1100 a month rental as she's changed the figure within 2 posts...

I imagine the period of time since they first slept together and the last time they slept together was 4yrs, but they certainly weren't building a future or home together. 4 years is quite a time (apart from divorcees who are adamant they'll never live with anyone again, and single parents who don't want to move anyone in with their child) to go nowhere in a genuine relationship.

There are two examples in the last couple of pages about women who were sleeping with men they were infatuated with, and the men very clearly didn't think there was any relationship. It's what the women called it though.

Once more, how do you know they didn’t live together ? OP didn’t specify, but the fact that she said he ‘walked out’ suggests that they did. Here’s an alternative scenario for you. OP and her partner together four years. OP falls pregnant. Partner has an affair while she’s pregnant and walks out for the other woman. Probably well past the time when an abortion is an option for OP. Look at the time line - he leaves when she’s at an undisclosed stage of pregnancy and by the time she’s six weeks post partum he’s in a committed relationship with the woman he’s trying to force on OP and her child - which even the courts wouldn’t support. The fact that the maintenance was arranged via CMS suggests that he only wanted to pay the bare minimum and OP likely had to chase him for that. So it begs the question, why are you supporting him ?

Rosscameasdoody · 15/08/2025 21:07

HopscotchBanana · 15/08/2025 07:55

Lmao

"Because you aren't a faux victim after someone else's cash, you must be bitter about those that are"

What a crock of shit 😁. I also want a Bentley Bentayga, but we can't afford one until we've finished the house. I mean we could get one because fuck the consequences of debt and then blame anyone else that we've got no money, but then that would just make me "bitter and projecting". If only we could all fake not being able to work and pay for our own children because "there's a swimming class at 4.30pm"

Pointing out someone has simply got everything they asked for (a kid with no dad because she banked on that being the way to keep the dad attached to her, but turns out no) is now getting exactly what she signed up for. Making it dad's fault that her child was unwanted but she chose to have it because it's now biting her on the arse.

Maybe not such a brilliant idea to decide you're having a kid when the other parent doesn't want it, if you can't be accountable for your choice.

Deeply misogynistic. I feel so sorry for you.

Rosscameasdoody · 15/08/2025 21:05

incognitomouse · 14/08/2025 15:02

I'd say he was paying a decent amount to be honest, no kid costs more than that a month, and if they do, you need to get a grip.

I don’t understand this. OP is feeding, clothing, providing a home and everything in it, household bills, entertainment, after school activities. £1277 out of a salary of £33,000 a month is measly and probably nowhere near what is spent on his other three kids.

Rosscameasdoody · 15/08/2025 21:00

HopscotchBanana · 15/08/2025 09:22

I don’t get why posters think he didn’t want the baby. They were together for four years - not as though it was a one night stand.

OP says they were together for 4yrs. On the basis they didn't even live together after that amount of time, you have to wonder if he thought they were together in any real form.

He lived with, married and had multiple children with someone in a similar time span, so it's not like we're dealing with a commitment phobe.

As I said, I wonder what his summation of interactions over the 4yrs with OP would be? A relationship? Someone he slept with on and off? Friends with benefits? My sister's friend was obsessed with a chap locally and they would hook up most weekends, and this probably went on for 3 or 4 years. He was never properly interested in her and she turned a blind eye to any rumblings that he was dating other people too. But she was infatuated and always available for him. She didn't have eyes for anyone else. He met his now fiancé and had moved her into his within about 5 months. The friend was distraught how "her man" could do that to her. If you ask her, she will tell you they were in a relationship. It was to her.

From the way OP describes things and the very fact that someone who has no issue with settling down, progressed nothing with OP for 4 years, it points to it being a one sided perception of a relationship here too.

How do you know they didn’t live together. OP didn’t specify. Making it up as you go along ?

Rosscameasdoody · 15/08/2025 20:57

DrinkFeckArseBrick · 15/08/2025 13:05

I think a lot of posters are getting sidetracked. Fundamentally do we think it's OK that one parent pays most of their income on their child or towards their child (eg in housing, or a reduction in salary to keep a job with flexible hours) while the other parent pays less than 5% of their salary towards their child, meaning that their shared child has a significantly lower standard of living than:

  • They would have had, if their parents hadn't split
  • Their half siblings have
When it could relatively easily be changed by the non resident parent, without any real impact to them or their new family

I personally don't think this is ok, and its pretty low to be suggesting the OP is greedy for wanting better for her son. And when it's the other way around, and posters are talking about their partner paying maintenance to their ex, everyone always says good parents pay more than the absolute minimum and pay their share of extras.

This. Absolutely.

Rosscameasdoody · 15/08/2025 20:55

FitAt50 · 15/08/2025 20:22

Do you spend the whole £1277 a month on your child? I would petition that any increase should be put in a trust fund for your son for when he reaches 21.

Why ? Do you not think that much of the monthly payment is spent keeping a roof over his head, food in his stomach, clothes on his back, not to mention the household bills that keep him from being thrown out on the street if they’re not paid ?