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What do you think of this ultimatum from Fiance?

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Pladi · 13/08/2025 19:02

Fiancé and I met in our mid 20s in London. He is Norwegian. I have always been completely upfront that I would never even contemplate living in Norway. Not even Oslo. I must have made this clear from around the 2nd month of dating. Fiancé accepted that as he hated growing up in a fairly small town anyway.

Since becoming engaged fiancé has requested that we live in Oslo for a year after we marry. Just as an experience. I have said absolutely bloody not. There’s a long list of reasons why I wouldn’t consider this. Fiancé is “confused” as I did spend 18 months in Seattle for work. But Seattle (where I speak the language and am somewhat familiar with the culture) is a very different proposition to Oslo.

Im not happy that he’s changing the goal posts despite the fact I have never been anything but brutally transparent.

Ideally we would live in London for a couple more years then make the move to the burbs.

I’m not being unreasonable, am I?

OP posts:
Charabanc · 13/08/2025 20:25

ConfusedSloth · 13/08/2025 20:23

He wants: one year in Oslo and then a life in England.
She wants: no time in Oslo and a life in England.

He’s demanding: one year in Oslo and then a life in England.

What exactly is he compromising on? Or are you trying to defend by calling him a liar who is telling OP he wants one year there to trap her into living there permanently?

Yes. He is driving a wedge. He wants to move back to Norway.

FourIsNewSix · 13/08/2025 20:25

I understand that uprooting and changing job for a year doesn't seem attractive to you.

However, it sounds you are hoping he would just forget about being from Norway and having any connections there.

You don't like Norway, you don't like Oslo, you don't like his family, you gave up on a language, you don't like feeling like an outsider, but you don't do much to feel more inside.

Imagine you would have children with him - would you be ready to welcome his family in England? Spend some time over there every year so the children would have contact with their family?

Even if you don't live there long-term, I can't see the relationship working unless you find a way to work with Norway (as a happy regular visitor).

BunnyLake · 13/08/2025 20:25

If you do spend a year there it is better to do it before you marry, not after.

BreatheAndFocus · 13/08/2025 20:24

YABU and YANBU. It’s fair enough to say that you made your position clear at the beginning, but you’re BU in not considering his feelings. Perhaps he feels like you’re rejecting his culture and country? Perhaps he wants to share it with you so you can experience it properly? Perhaps he’s worried that if you have children you’ll totally erase/ignore their Norwegian heritage?

Why not compromise? Could you go for 6 months, for example? Promise to visit with him every year for a week or two?

My DSis is married to someone from another European country and although they live in the U.K., they spend a few weeks each year in his home country; she’s learnt some basic language; his family visit regularly; and their DC are bilingual.

ConfusedSloth · 13/08/2025 20:24

Mauro711 · 13/08/2025 20:21

He hasn't said any of that. He hasn't made an ultimatum either. OP has perceived that he has insinuated that he would break up with her if she doesn't move. All he has done is open the idea up for discussion by suggesting they spend a year there. He hasn't told her off or demanded that she changes her mind. He's free to express his feelings too.

So you’re calling OP a liar? Noted.

Were you there? You seem to have information that contradicts what OP has said.

ConfusedSloth · 13/08/2025 20:23

PrincessOfPreschool · 13/08/2025 20:21

One year in his country vs the rest of their lives in hers is very much a compromise.

He wants: one year in Oslo and then a life in England.
She wants: no time in Oslo and a life in England.

He’s demanding: one year in Oslo and then a life in England.

What exactly is he compromising on? Or are you trying to defend by calling him a liar who is telling OP he wants one year there to trap her into living there permanently?

EasternStandard · 13/08/2025 20:23

ELS20 · 13/08/2025 20:19

To be honest Norway has one of the best quality of life and living standard in the world. It’s far better than the UK at this point. I’d be up for it!

But op’s friends and family matter a lot to her.

Charabanc · 13/08/2025 20:22

My English cousin and his Norwegian wife have recently decided to leave Norway, because they find it too insular and judgemental.

He is clearly trying to get you to spend time in Norway OP, with a view to persuading you to stay there.

Mauro711 · 13/08/2025 20:21

ConfusedSloth · 13/08/2025 20:17

It might be reasonable for him to change his mind but why are all the posters who are so desperate to defend him ignoring that he’s not only changed his mind, he’s told OP off for not changing hers and said she has to change her opinion whenever he changes his?

That’s not at all reasonable.

Even if you think commitment and agreement in a marriage (which I guarantee those posters only apply to things they don’t care about), why is he reasonable in berating OP for holding to a preference about her own life when he won’t compromise on his preference?

People seem to think the title of the thread is “should I like Norway?”

He hasn't said any of that. He hasn't made an ultimatum either. OP has perceived that he has insinuated that he would break up with her if she doesn't move. All he has done is open the idea up for discussion by suggesting they spend a year there. He hasn't told her off or demanded that she changes her mind. He's free to express his feelings too.

godmum56 · 13/08/2025 20:21

Scottishskifun · 13/08/2025 20:09

A big part of making marriage work is about communication and compromising OP.
Honestly your posts read quite like a teenager saying but I don't want to. No looking into it no examination of options etc.
If your unable to even discuss it properly and examine options for it then marriage isn't for you and neither one of you will be happy.

I'm also rubbish at languages but it takes being absorbed into it to really learn.

irrelevant. As has been said upthread, everyone is entitled to have dealbreakers. There is no point discussing or examining options if the "thing" is a dealbreaker. I agree that this means that the relationship is dead though.

PrincessOfPreschool · 13/08/2025 20:21

Megifer · 13/08/2025 20:19

And this isnt even a compromise its literally "do what what he wants"!

One year in his country vs the rest of their lives in hers is very much a compromise.

Lollypop701 · 13/08/2025 20:20

I can sense your anger at his change in mind… he probably didn’t see it coming either. You don’t want to move because you’d miss home, family, language. He didn’t know he’d miss those things. Neither of you are wrong but you can’t compromise … you could both get a mobile job and live 6 months in each and work remotely as an example(not easy)

I know you feel you’ve been mis sold… which is possibly not true. He misses feeling truly at home… you know you can’t feel truly at home in his country. Not sure this is surmountable op

PrincessOfPreschool · 13/08/2025 20:19

ThejoyofNC · 13/08/2025 19:18

So it's your way or the highway? Not really a good foundation for a marriage and I don't blame him for reconsidering.

This (my mum uses that expression 'your way or the highway' and I love it).

OP, v you sound very inflexible and too much like hard work. I'm not surprised he's reconsidering. Can't you see that it's not really this issue that's making him reconsider but it's your attitude?

Blueskies77 · 13/08/2025 20:19

damemaggiescurledupperlip · 13/08/2025 19:15

I would never dream of moving after children - you might be stuck there without his permission to take them back. And before children, could you take that long away from your job without torpedoing your career?

100% this!!!

Megifer · 13/08/2025 20:19

ConfusedSloth · 13/08/2025 19:54

I agree, and I said as much to OP.

That doesn’t change that several posters are saying OP must compromise and marriage is all about compromise and how she has to see his side 🙄

And this isnt even a compromise its literally "do what what he wants"!

ELS20 · 13/08/2025 20:19

To be honest Norway has one of the best quality of life and living standard in the world. It’s far better than the UK at this point. I’d be up for it!

Sunaquarius · 13/08/2025 20:18

I would agree but just make it very clear that it is just 1 year and you wouldn't want to live there long term, just incase he's hoping you go there and want to stay.

ConfusedSloth · 13/08/2025 20:17

It might be reasonable for him to change his mind but why are all the posters who are so desperate to defend him ignoring that he’s not only changed his mind, he’s told OP off for not changing hers and said she has to change her opinion whenever he changes his?

That’s not at all reasonable.

Even if you think commitment and agreement in a marriage (which I guarantee those posters only apply to things they don’t care about), why is he reasonable in berating OP for holding to a preference about her own life when he won’t compromise on his preference?

People seem to think the title of the thread is “should I like Norway?”

whackamole666 · 13/08/2025 20:16

I'd say he's looking for a way out of the relationship.

MsGoodenough · 13/08/2025 20:15

I'd give my right arm to live in Norway! But if it's a red line for you then you should probably move on as this marriage isn't going to work. No-one is right or wrong, you're just not compatible.

DrinkFeckArseBrick · 13/08/2025 20:15

EasternStandard · 13/08/2025 20:10

Yes neither are to blame really, it’s just how they each feel.

Except that if someone has changed their mind they should be open about their reasons, their feelings, their long term plan, they should introduce the idea and give theor partner some time to think about it, and acknowledge they have dropped a grenade into the relationship by completely changing the goalposts that were agreed at the outset. Not just so a 180 and drop an implied ultimatum on their partner for the sake of an 'experience'

EasternStandard · 13/08/2025 20:14

Radiowaawaa · 13/08/2025 20:13

I’m not sure that you are cut out for marriage.

That’s not needed. People don’t have to move.

LuckyNumberFive · 13/08/2025 20:14

ConfusedSloth · 13/08/2025 20:12

It only applies to women. Obviously. 🙄 We’re childish teenagers who won’t compromise but men who want to live in their home country have a connection and have every right…

Bonkers isn't it.

I've lived overseas, loved the experience but my home is here. It's as if it's taboo or close minded nowadays to want to be in the UK.

TooTedious · 13/08/2025 20:13

It doesn’t really matter if it’s Oslo or Oswestry; neither of you are being unreasonable. You’ve made it perfectly clear that it’s not something you’d ever be willing to consider. And, as for him, people change as they get older. What might have been fine a few years ago might well sound awful now.

What’s important is what happens next. This is a major thing, right up there with attitudes about children, money and division of household labour. If you don’t agree on these things, and can’t find a workable compromise, your marriage is destined to fail. So do you accept that you want different things in life and split now? Or do you go through with a marriage knowing it can’t possibly succeed without one of you being deeply unhappy?

Radiowaawaa · 13/08/2025 20:13

I’m not sure that you are cut out for marriage.