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What do you think of this ultimatum from Fiance?

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Pladi · 13/08/2025 19:02

Fiancé and I met in our mid 20s in London. He is Norwegian. I have always been completely upfront that I would never even contemplate living in Norway. Not even Oslo. I must have made this clear from around the 2nd month of dating. Fiancé accepted that as he hated growing up in a fairly small town anyway.

Since becoming engaged fiancé has requested that we live in Oslo for a year after we marry. Just as an experience. I have said absolutely bloody not. There’s a long list of reasons why I wouldn’t consider this. Fiancé is “confused” as I did spend 18 months in Seattle for work. But Seattle (where I speak the language and am somewhat familiar with the culture) is a very different proposition to Oslo.

Im not happy that he’s changing the goal posts despite the fact I have never been anything but brutally transparent.

Ideally we would live in London for a couple more years then make the move to the burbs.

I’m not being unreasonable, am I?

OP posts:
ConfusedSloth · 13/08/2025 21:32

ELS20 · 13/08/2025 21:30

So do mine, very much so, but equally so does the future of my child and frankly the British economy scares me and I fear for the future here. Oslo is very close to the UK for visits back home.

Isn’t Oslo as far from London as London is from Oslo?

TesChique · 13/08/2025 21:32

I really dont see where the OP asked "Should i move to oslo pros and cons please"

Once again the point and the majority of posters are complete strangers

ELS20 · 13/08/2025 21:30

EasternStandard · 13/08/2025 20:23

But op’s friends and family matter a lot to her.

So do mine, very much so, but equally so does the future of my child and frankly the British economy scares me and I fear for the future here. Oslo is very close to the UK for visits back home.

Arran2024 · 13/08/2025 21:29

My grandparents both moved to Canada from Scotland in the 1920s, met, got married and had 4 children - and then my grandfather wanted to come home, and for some reason my grandmother agreed. It wasnt even to her part of Scotland. He got what he wanted - she left all her family (who had also emigrated) behind for him. She hated being back in Scotland. They had a hard life here.

Anyway, i would be suspicious about this one year idea. He may just want to go home.

Charabanc · 13/08/2025 21:27

mummyhat · 13/08/2025 21:19

Jesus I’ll go with him. Life in Norway is halcyon compared to the UK and I’d rather spoon my own eyeballs out than live in a ?burb

What do you actually know about living in Norway? Because you sound quite knowledgable, so you could help the OP.

BunnyLake · 13/08/2025 21:27

Puzzledandpissedoff · 13/08/2025 21:15

I'd wondered if this was the case

Like PPs I'm all for compromise if he really does mean "for a year", but if he wouldn't then move back that's not a compromise - it's dishonestly moving the goalposts once he thinks he's got you "trapped"

To my mind this needs a LOT of discussion as to where he honestly sees his future - especially given that you've been so clear from the start - and while it would no doubt be sad if it means a split that's far better than resentment building down the line

Going after marriage would be very risky. If it has to be done (hypothetically speaking) then it must be before marriage.

PerplexedConfusedBewildered · 13/08/2025 21:26

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SparklesGlitter · 13/08/2025 21:26

Coconutter24 · 13/08/2025 21:10

Plenty do hate men on here but I certainly don’t, there’s been more occasions I’ve been in the defence of a man on her so that’s not why I commented.

Me too. Men and MILs and mine MILs a doozy 😆

TesChique · 13/08/2025 21:24

Mumsnets fascination with scandanavia as a utopia is in itself fascinating.

4forksache · 13/08/2025 21:24

yanbu to not want to live away. He is not being unreasonable to change his mind. He is a different person to the person he was 6 years ago, especially if you met fairly young. You’ve reached that crossroad of make or break.

ultimately you need to agree or split up. Don’t marry until this is resolved.

thebean2019 · 13/08/2025 21:22

Mauro711 · 13/08/2025 20:05

I would say that UK has also changed a lot in the last 6 years, and not for the better. Quality of life is so much better in Norway, and if I had the choice of bringing up my kids in Norway or London/London suburb today I know I wouldn't be able to choose London even though I lived there when my kids were small 10-15 years ago and loved it.

It's not that simple though, as OP values being near her family and friends. Norway is no doubt wonderful but living abroad can be lonely. It takes a lot of time to build a network of friends, and even then, it's not the same as having parents or siblings nearby. I'm speaking from experience; I've lived in a few different countries which were all amazing, but none of them had my family and close friends.

EasternStandard · 13/08/2025 21:21

Themagicfarawaytreeismyfav · 13/08/2025 21:05

I can’t believe you were happy to go to Seattle( with all its drug and crime problems) but not to Norway for a year! I know where id rather be and its not London or Seattle.

Perhaps there was a good job opportunity.

TesChique · 13/08/2025 21:19

Once she relents and goes, he will never come back.

So its either break up now pre marriage with a solid support network around

Or divorce later, in a foreign country

Aimtodobetter · 13/08/2025 21:19

Pladi · 13/08/2025 19:26

I’m also very happy with my social life in the UK. I have two sisters I’m close to (one is my twin). And I just became an aunt. I also have a really great group of friends. I am very blessed and would miss them all terribly. Even if it’s only for a year. My family spends a lot of time together.

I hate feeling like an outsider also

Edited

I know someone who moved to Oslo and found it socially very hard - very much felt like an outsider for what its worth. Also, it is very fair to say I have a life i value in the UK and you knew that/I was clear - I love you but not enough to give up everything else that matters to me.

mummyhat · 13/08/2025 21:19

Jesus I’ll go with him. Life in Norway is halcyon compared to the UK and I’d rather spoon my own eyeballs out than live in a ?burb

Choconuts · 13/08/2025 21:17

Dangermoo · 13/08/2025 19:07

You're unreasonable for saying "burbs" 🤢

GrinGrinGrin 2nd comment very quick Dangermoo

Puzzledandpissedoff · 13/08/2025 21:15

Pladi · 13/08/2025 19:24

I’m also worried he might refuse to move back

I'd wondered if this was the case

Like PPs I'm all for compromise if he really does mean "for a year", but if he wouldn't then move back that's not a compromise - it's dishonestly moving the goalposts once he thinks he's got you "trapped"

To my mind this needs a LOT of discussion as to where he honestly sees his future - especially given that you've been so clear from the start - and while it would no doubt be sad if it means a split that's far better than resentment building down the line

Midgetgemsplease · 13/08/2025 21:14

Dangermoo · 13/08/2025 19:07

You're unreasonable for saying "burbs" 🤢

🤣🤣🤣🤣

Needsomepeaceandquiet · 13/08/2025 21:13

You need to see learning the language as an essential long term goal. Even if you stay in London, if you have children they will be bilingual and dual nationality. He will want to speak to them in Norwegian and immerse them in his culture and his family will too. Expect to have to use annual holidays to visit family and friends in Norway too.

GoldPoster · 13/08/2025 21:11

It sounds like you need to break up with him. I don’t think it was manipulative to ask if you’d consider a year but if you don’t want to that’s fair enough. It wouldn’t be unreasonable for him to consider it a deal breaker though.

Flamingoknees · 13/08/2025 21:10

He's entitled to feel the way he does - what seems a good idea in our 20's can seem unreasonable or less attractive as we mature.
I think he is sensible to seriously reconsider the relationship - as are you. You no longer seem to be compatible. You both deserve to be happy, with partners who want the same things.

Coconutter24 · 13/08/2025 21:10

AuntyDepressant · 13/08/2025 20:30

Maybe he was just human and thought he could cope with never going back but found the reality far harder. I mean I know how much you all hate men on here but real life isn’t that black and white unfortunately .

Plenty do hate men on here but I certainly don’t, there’s been more occasions I’ve been in the defence of a man on her so that’s not why I commented.

Minnie798 · 13/08/2025 21:09

Yanbu, you made it very clear early on that you wouldn't move.
He may have changed his mind over recent years, which is his prerogative .But that doesn't mean you have to fall in line.
If it's a deal breaker for him, you'll need to go your separate ways .

Charabanc · 13/08/2025 21:06

Themagicfarawaytreeismyfav · 13/08/2025 21:05

I can’t believe you were happy to go to Seattle( with all its drug and crime problems) but not to Norway for a year! I know where id rather be and its not London or Seattle.

He. Doesn't. Want. To. Go. For. A. Year.

Read between the lines.

AngryBookworm · 13/08/2025 21:06

You didn't like it when you were there for a month, so it's sensible not to move there. Ultimately though, even if he's being unreasonable to change his mind, it sounds like that's how he feels - so you now need to consider whether you're willing to live somewhere you don't like for a year to save your marriage.

If you do move, I would actually do the year there before you get married. That way, if he changes his mind about it just being a year and you want to escape, you won't need a divorce. And definitely don't have kids out there unless you discover you love both him and Norway enough that you'll be happy for you and them to stay out there...