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What do you think of this ultimatum from Fiance?

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Pladi · 13/08/2025 19:02

Fiancé and I met in our mid 20s in London. He is Norwegian. I have always been completely upfront that I would never even contemplate living in Norway. Not even Oslo. I must have made this clear from around the 2nd month of dating. Fiancé accepted that as he hated growing up in a fairly small town anyway.

Since becoming engaged fiancé has requested that we live in Oslo for a year after we marry. Just as an experience. I have said absolutely bloody not. There’s a long list of reasons why I wouldn’t consider this. Fiancé is “confused” as I did spend 18 months in Seattle for work. But Seattle (where I speak the language and am somewhat familiar with the culture) is a very different proposition to Oslo.

Im not happy that he’s changing the goal posts despite the fact I have never been anything but brutally transparent.

Ideally we would live in London for a couple more years then make the move to the burbs.

I’m not being unreasonable, am I?

OP posts:
QuaintPanda · 13/08/2025 21:59

FWIW, it would give you a good understanding of your husband’s culture. And our national culture and language affects a lot more than you‘d think, from what you consider polite, how you make decisions, plan ahead (or not), how spontaneous you are, how you view and handle money, understand authority and teamwork.

They would be invaluable insights- just because he speaks (presumably) excellent English doesn’t mean he thinks like a Brit.

MrsSunshine2b · 13/08/2025 21:59

Charabanc · 13/08/2025 21:50

What compromise could there be? Between one person who want to live in the UK, near her relations, and one person who wants to live in Norway, near his relations.

He's said for a year. Not forever. A compromise would be agreeing to it for a year but being clear it's not what you want forever. A longer term compromise would be spending summers in Oslo and the rest of the year in the UK. I know a few couples who visit the non-UK national's homeland for a whole month in the summer holidays. But OP has made the decision that her only priority is what she wants, which is fine, but not a good set up for marriage.

Wolfpinkola · 13/08/2025 21:58

Norway is not a utopia, it sounds like for Op it will feel like a cage. Its v interesting how everyone is projecting their fantasies onto it.

mintydoggyv · 13/08/2025 21:57

whitewineandsun · 13/08/2025 21:56

Agree. You need to break up with him, OP. Your marriage would be Resentment Central in no time.

Fully agree , l don't think this will work

whitewineandsun · 13/08/2025 21:56

KrisAkabusi · 13/08/2025 19:55

I will never understand men or women who meet someone while they're abroad and expect them to move.

He doesnt expect her to move. He's made what seems a reasonable request for her to try it for a while. People change over time. Neither he nor the OP are the same people they were eight years ago. And he does have a point that despite her saying she would never live anywhere else, she did go to the US for 18 months.

Agree. You need to break up with him, OP. Your marriage would be Resentment Central in no time.

MrsPerfect12 · 13/08/2025 21:55

I think you’ve been clear from the beginning that you don’t want to move - that is completely fine, you haven’t moved any goal posts.

If you do want to compromise for a year, 100% go before marriage make it abundantly clear it’s for 1 year only. When there make it clear to all family it’s for 1 year only and tell him you’ll be doing so.

you’ve then done as he asked and if after that he’s not happy then you know you’re done. If he insists on being married first then he’s trying to trap you there. That’s my worry. Certainly don’t fall pregnant over there.

If he doesn’t like that idea you know he’ll never be okay and it’s done anyway.

CoffeeCakeAndALattePlease · 13/08/2025 21:54

I don’t think either of you are being unreasonable really, you just want different things. He’s changed his mind which isn’t unusual.

Spirallingdownwards · 13/08/2025 21:54

"ideally we would ....'
Ideally for you but not for him it seems.
Decision time I think.

Leilaandtheloggerheads · 13/08/2025 21:52

You’re not unreasonable to not want to move in as much as you communicated this to him straight away. But your reaction towards Norway is….. odd. You were fine in Seattle but think Norway is some hugely different culture? 🤔 it really isn’t….

Could understand if it was somewhere dangerous, or somewhere with a totally non-western culture, or oppressive laws towards women. But Norway?! I’d love the opportunity to live there.

It’s fine that you don’t want to but I’d say YABU for your attitude towards the country.

LBFseBrom · 13/08/2025 21:51

I wonder if he is trying to back out of your relationship. He appears to have gone along quite happily with what you wanted but now has changed his mind. You aren't going to want to live in Norway.

Perhaps it would be best for you to part.

Charabanc · 13/08/2025 21:50

ParmaVioletTea · 13/08/2025 21:47

I don’t think you should marry. Neither of you is prepared to compromise.

Although he’s only asking for a year; you’re refusing even a year.

What compromise could there be? Between one person who want to live in the UK, near her relations, and one person who wants to live in Norway, near his relations.

MrsSunshine2b · 13/08/2025 21:48

Well just because YOU said you'd never consider it doesn't mean HE can't consider it.

Norway is his home.

You can't go into marriage saying, "This is how it's going to be and I'm not compromising on that."

A big part of marriage is doing things that you maybe didn't absolutely want to do but you do because it's what your partner wants. Sometimes, you find that you actually love it. And next time there's something you really want, he will be more likely to make that sacrifice for you.

If you're not ready for that, then let the relationship go.

ParmaVioletTea · 13/08/2025 21:47

I don’t think you should marry. Neither of you is prepared to compromise.

Although he’s only asking for a year; you’re refusing even a year.

WellIquitelikesprouts · 13/08/2025 21:47

If the two of you can't compromise enough to agree on where to live, it may be better not to get married. Life will be so difficult.
It's not unreasonable that he wants to spend a year with you in his own country, just as you want to continue living in yours. And it's understandable that you fear he won't leave at the end of the year, but it also sounds as if you don't trust him.
Could you wait a bit before getting married, until you can agree where to spend the next few years?

CinnamonJellyBeans · 13/08/2025 21:47

I think the key thing here is children: You must be heading for 30, if not there already, so were you planning any and if so, would that be quite soon after marriage?

I suspect it's likely that he wants to get you over there long enough to produce Norwegian children that you cannot take back to the UK without his consent. Also once children come along, it will be such a ball-ache to move back, you'll keep putting it off and before you know it, you'll in Norway forever.

If this does not appeal to you, say no and do not move. Be prepapred for this to spell the end of your relationship, though.

I personally would not write off the idea. If you stayed there before, was it in the house of his relative/in a hotel? This would not give you the authentic experience of life in Norway with your own home with your own transport car, which might be less claustrophobic. It would be interesting to know what house prices are like there.

You should also consider work availablity, pension, childcare, healthcare, cost of living, price of flights to UK for visits and visitors. Also family law and how separation and divorce affetc women, particularly non-citizens. On paper it could be a good deal.

Charabanc · 13/08/2025 21:46

westartfires · 13/08/2025 21:44

Does it have to be a full year, OP? Could you plan lots of smaller visits to see his family etc over the next few years instead? It’s not like it’s the other side of the world - I’m sure there is a compromise to be had here.

Yes! Why hasn't lovely OP's DP suggested that. It's a mystery.

westartfires · 13/08/2025 21:44

Does it have to be a full year, OP? Could you plan lots of smaller visits to see his family etc over the next few years instead? It’s not like it’s the other side of the world - I’m sure there is a compromise to be had here.

Charabanc · 13/08/2025 21:41

Lolling hard at all the "Norway is a eutopia!"

Who have never been there, or if they have, who don't want to actually live there.

TesChique · 13/08/2025 21:40

SteakBakesAndHotTakes · 13/08/2025 21:38

Thread should be renamed 'How many Mumsnet posters want to move to Oslo?'

Funny for a forum known for 'That doesn't work for me' and 'No is a complete answer'.

That was before 💖scandanavia💖 was on the cards though

Motherland got it so right with hygge tygge 🤣

Eddielizzard · 13/08/2025 21:39

Absolutely don't move. He's moving the goal posts and it doesn't bode well

Charabanc · 13/08/2025 21:38

Messycoo · 13/08/2025 21:35

Well I said I’d never live north again, was adamant. Here I am Notth east Scotland and loving it ! In fact Norway 🇳🇴 is almost a neighbour 😂 Never say Never, you could be missing out on an experience of a life time .

But OP wants to stay close to her family and support network.

I really don't thin there is much compromise here, OP. Your partner wants to live in Norway. You don't. Sometimes "compromise" isn't a good thing.

SteakBakesAndHotTakes · 13/08/2025 21:38

TesChique · 13/08/2025 21:32

Thank you for the update but what does that have to do with OPs question

Thread should be renamed 'How many Mumsnet posters want to move to Oslo?'

Funny for a forum known for 'That doesn't work for me' and 'No is a complete answer'.

Messycoo · 13/08/2025 21:35

Well I said I’d never live north again, was adamant. Here I am Notth east Scotland and loving it ! In fact Norway 🇳🇴 is almost a neighbour 😂 Never say Never, you could be missing out on an experience of a life time .

TesChique · 13/08/2025 21:32

ELS20 · 13/08/2025 21:30

So do mine, very much so, but equally so does the future of my child and frankly the British economy scares me and I fear for the future here. Oslo is very close to the UK for visits back home.

Thank you for the update but what does that have to do with OPs question

SteakBakesAndHotTakes · 13/08/2025 21:32

Themagicfarawaytreeismyfav · 13/08/2025 21:05

I can’t believe you were happy to go to Seattle( with all its drug and crime problems) but not to Norway for a year! I know where id rather be and its not London or Seattle.

Almost as if it's a personal preference