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to think supermarkets should open longer on Sundays?

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ThisPlumCrab · 13/08/2025 18:02

By late Sunday morning my local supermarket is like a rugby scrum with trolleys. The car park is jammed, people are queueing before they even get inside, and once you are in the aisles it feels like an obstacle course just to reach the milk. It is easily the busiest day of the week here, yet we still have the six hour Sunday trading limit.

Because of Sunday trading laws, the big shops in England and Wales can only open for six hours. In practice that means everyone piles in at the same time. Late morning is rammed, early afternoon is even worse, and by the afternoon the place looks like a plague of locusts has been through, with only artichokes and beetroot left.

In Scotland there are no Sunday trading laws for large shops, so they can open as long as they like, and life seems to carry on perfectly fine.

If supermarkets here could open longer, like on a normal day, people could spread out their shopping and the whole thing would be calmer. Families who spend Saturday at kids sports or activities, and workers who do shifts at the weekend, would have more choice than the current six hour window. Smaller express or local stores are open all day anyway, but they are pricier and do not stock everything, so you end up doing several little shops.

I know the main argument for the current rules is that Sundays should be for people to spend time with their families. But not everyone lives in a family setup, and many people, especially students, part timers, and those looking for extra income, actually prefer to work on Sundays. For some, it is the best day to pick up extra hours without clashing with other commitments.

I just do not see how the current system helps when Sundays are already the busiest.

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DrPrunesqualer · 14/08/2025 20:33

WildFlowerBees · 14/08/2025 20:30

Why can’t people plan their shopping better or get deliveries. If I had my way no shops would be open on Sundays so everyone had a rest.

Exactly

People had to be organised in the past with half Wednesday shopping aswell
Its not difficult

WildFlowerBees · 14/08/2025 20:30

Why can’t people plan their shopping better or get deliveries. If I had my way no shops would be open on Sundays so everyone had a rest.

DrPrunesqualer · 14/08/2025 20:28

ThisPlumCrab · 14/08/2025 20:10

What about the poor pub staff working on a Sunday?

The threads about supermarkets

Lots of stuff opens on Sundays unfortunately. I have a right to my own opinions and so do you.

Personally I’d like a day a week without cars, noise and pollution

Look at how pollution levels go down when everything’s closed. A day for humans and the planet to recharge.

luckily I live in the country now

MrsSunshine2b · 14/08/2025 20:23

Everyone deserves time off but a Sunday is the most illogical day.

Most people have 2 days when they are not at work and one of those days, everything is shut or only open for short hours.

If the shops shut on a weekday, then retail staff would get the same number of days off and all of us office monkeys would get a bit longer to do all the jobs that need doing.

ThisPlumCrab · 14/08/2025 20:10

DrPrunesqualer · 14/08/2025 20:07

I remember as a student pubs were only open at certain hours on a Sunday
Limited licensing laws
Just looked it up and it appears these were revoked in 1988

Of course you can’t get the pubs delivered to your door, as I’ve mentioned before.

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What about the poor pub staff working on a Sunday?

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DrPrunesqualer · 14/08/2025 20:07

BlueyNeedsToFuckOff · 14/08/2025 19:57

You must be incredibly old if you grew up in a time before pubs were open on a Sunday.

I remember as a student pubs were only open at certain hours on a Sunday
Limited licensing laws
Just looked it up and it appears these were revoked in 1988

Of course you can’t get the pubs delivered to your door, as I’ve mentioned before.

DrPrunesqualer · 14/08/2025 20:01

BlueyNeedsToFuckOff · 14/08/2025 19:57

You must be incredibly old if you grew up in a time before pubs were open on a Sunday.

My family didn’t drink so I wouldn’t know tbf

BlueyNeedsToFuckOff · 14/08/2025 19:57

DrPrunesqualer · 14/08/2025 19:49

Tbf
Thats what a lot of people were used to
I grew up when nothing was open except for churches, the local newspaper shop and a pharmacy

It’s what some people still remember. Then of course other countries still do the same now

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You must be incredibly old if you grew up in a time before pubs were open on a Sunday.

DrPrunesqualer · 14/08/2025 19:51

ShanghaiDiva · 14/08/2025 19:48

Agree. I lived in Germany and Austria for 13 years, no Sunday opening and when I first moved to Germany shops only opened on a Saturday afternoon on the first Saturday of the month.

Agree @Venalopolos
it was rather magical and peaceful walking around on a Sunday with nothing open

DrPrunesqualer · 14/08/2025 19:49

BlueyNeedsToFuckOff · 14/08/2025 19:42

I don’t care. I was just curious because you’ve said that all entertainment and retail should be closed - so no going to a NT place on a Sunday, or the cinema, or for a walk along the beach getting an ice-cream from the ice-cream van. No going out for Sunday lunch with the family, or sitting in a pub garden with friends.

Sounds an incredibly boring Sunday and I don’t think most people would go for it, that’s all.

Tbf
Thats what a lot of people were used to
I grew up when nothing was open except for churches, the local newspaper shop and a pharmacy

It’s what some people still remember. Then of course other countries still do the same now

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to think supermarkets should open longer on Sundays?
ShanghaiDiva · 14/08/2025 19:48

Venalopolos · 13/08/2025 18:49

I actually think they should close entirely on Sundays. There’s something sort of magical and sleepy on a Sunday in France when everything is closed (but really frustrating when it’s a Wednesday afternoon) and I think it does impact pace of life in a positive way.

Agree. I lived in Germany and Austria for 13 years, no Sunday opening and when I first moved to Germany shops only opened on a Saturday afternoon on the first Saturday of the month.

ThisPlumCrab · 14/08/2025 19:44

DrPrunesqualer · 14/08/2025 19:42

You can’t get Thorpe park delivered though can you

No but you can avoid going on a Sunday. They are open for long enough hours.

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BlueyNeedsToFuckOff · 14/08/2025 19:42

FluffyWabbit · 14/08/2025 17:00

Why do you care so much about my opinion on closing retail? Do you think I'm going to enact a law that might affect you? Is it ok to have an opinion without giving a detailed, bullet pointed essay for your approval?

I don’t care. I was just curious because you’ve said that all entertainment and retail should be closed - so no going to a NT place on a Sunday, or the cinema, or for a walk along the beach getting an ice-cream from the ice-cream van. No going out for Sunday lunch with the family, or sitting in a pub garden with friends.

Sounds an incredibly boring Sunday and I don’t think most people would go for it, that’s all.

DrPrunesqualer · 14/08/2025 19:42

ThisPlumCrab · 14/08/2025 19:40

What about all the other staff working in hospitality and leisure on a Sunday? Are you organised so you never go anywhere that involves staff working on a Sunday?

You can’t get Thorpe park delivered though can you

ThisPlumCrab · 14/08/2025 19:40

DrPrunesqualer · 14/08/2025 19:06

It’s all about being organised. There are plenty of hours in a week to shop. Or get it delivered if you’re strapped for time

Employees feel compelled to work the hours they are given, including those on Sundays. I think shops are open for long enough

What about all the other staff working in hospitality and leisure on a Sunday? Are you organised so you never go anywhere that involves staff working on a Sunday?

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DrPrunesqualer · 14/08/2025 19:06

It’s all about being organised. There are plenty of hours in a week to shop. Or get it delivered if you’re strapped for time

Employees feel compelled to work the hours they are given, including those on Sundays. I think shops are open for long enough

Maverickess · 14/08/2025 19:02

ThisPlumCrab · 14/08/2025 16:09

To those calling for shops to be closed on Sundays I am sure you have been somewhere on a Sunday that involved staff working.

Exactly...... Off to a restaurant or pub for Sunday lunch, a theme park, trampoline park, cinema, bowling...... where leisure and hospitality staff are working, on a Sunday.

And yes I knew I'd be working Sundays, Christmas, bank holidays when I took the job, it's just another day, it doesn't need to be protected, and most people who work Sunday will have their rota'd day off during the week, I do, so they're probably gaining there because anything you want to do during the week is usually quieter than weekends. I don't understand this whole thing about having to be silent until 10am on a Sunday either, if it's acceptable to make noise at 8am Monday morning then it should be on Sunday morning, those of us that have Mondays off have to deal with it, so those that have Sundays off can deal with it.

Livpool · 14/08/2025 18:23

We are close by a couple of big supermarkets and none of them are particularly busy on a Sunday - and I have been in at various times. It is a lot more busy on Friday early evening or Saturday afternoon.

I cannot fathom why shopping for vegetables and fruits on a Sunday takes hours, as per a PP

samplesalequeen · 14/08/2025 17:31

IMissSparkling · 13/08/2025 18:17

I live in Scotland and often go to the supermarket on a Sunday evening. I find it so bizarre that England, with a bigger population, still has these antiquated Sunday trading laws.

Same! I love a mooch around my local ENORMOUS Sainos at 8pm on a Sunday

AliciaLeeming · 14/08/2025 17:29

Quite agree with the OP

It's a disgrace that the Bishops are allowed to influence the laws here. They get preferential treatment which is not justifiable now (if it ever was)

jannier · 14/08/2025 17:27

angelos02 · 14/08/2025 15:22

I'm sure this can't be true but apparently staff don't even get double-time working in shops on Sundays. When I was a student, I loved working Sundays as it was double-time. Working Christmas day/Boxing day/New Years day in a pub was triple time. As it should be.

No they don't anymore stopped a long time ago

SprayWhiteDung · 14/08/2025 17:26

cornflourblue · 14/08/2025 14:46

I'm in Scotland and we all seem to survive with Sunday supermarket opening.

For those who say keep supermarkets closed entirely on a sunday to allow workers time with their families, where do you stop? What about transport (bus drivers, airport staff?), what about soft plays, pubs and cafes, outdoor activity providers? Theatres and cinemas? Football grounds? Businesses that are open at weekends to cater for families who want to spend time together?

What about families who survive financially by one parent working during the week, and the other at weekends, as they have no childcare?

I'm not necessarily suggesting that it made perfect sense; but I suppose the thinking for the law for England and Wales might have been that they wanted to fully enable leisure and family activities on a Sunday, but they didn't regard food and other mundane shopping as such an activity.

I suppose, whether it was the intention or not, you could argue that they have actually promoted family activities and time focused on children for Sundays, by forcing parents to get the food in during the week or in a limited time on Sunday if pushed, and thus specifically freeing up time on a specific day for family activities!

Sharptonguedwoman · 14/08/2025 17:02

Not really. They are open long hours every other day and have on line ordering etc.

FluffyWabbit · 14/08/2025 17:00

BlueyNeedsToFuckOff · 14/08/2025 16:59

So what would your approved Sunday activities be with everything closed?

Why do you care so much about my opinion on closing retail? Do you think I'm going to enact a law that might affect you? Is it ok to have an opinion without giving a detailed, bullet pointed essay for your approval?

BlueyNeedsToFuckOff · 14/08/2025 16:59

FluffyWabbit · 14/08/2025 16:18

No entertainment or retail. Emergency services are not hobbies.

So what would your approved Sunday activities be with everything closed?