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to think supermarkets should open longer on Sundays?

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ThisPlumCrab · 13/08/2025 18:02

By late Sunday morning my local supermarket is like a rugby scrum with trolleys. The car park is jammed, people are queueing before they even get inside, and once you are in the aisles it feels like an obstacle course just to reach the milk. It is easily the busiest day of the week here, yet we still have the six hour Sunday trading limit.

Because of Sunday trading laws, the big shops in England and Wales can only open for six hours. In practice that means everyone piles in at the same time. Late morning is rammed, early afternoon is even worse, and by the afternoon the place looks like a plague of locusts has been through, with only artichokes and beetroot left.

In Scotland there are no Sunday trading laws for large shops, so they can open as long as they like, and life seems to carry on perfectly fine.

If supermarkets here could open longer, like on a normal day, people could spread out their shopping and the whole thing would be calmer. Families who spend Saturday at kids sports or activities, and workers who do shifts at the weekend, would have more choice than the current six hour window. Smaller express or local stores are open all day anyway, but they are pricier and do not stock everything, so you end up doing several little shops.

I know the main argument for the current rules is that Sundays should be for people to spend time with their families. But not everyone lives in a family setup, and many people, especially students, part timers, and those looking for extra income, actually prefer to work on Sundays. For some, it is the best day to pick up extra hours without clashing with other commitments.

I just do not see how the current system helps when Sundays are already the busiest.

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jannier · 15/08/2025 19:38

StitchHappens · 15/08/2025 19:14

Then I think you may have misunderstood my previous post i agree with you completely.
I was trying to point out to the other poster that maybe instead of expecting retail workers to work even longer hours at weekends, the solution would actually be for them to give up a day of their weekend in exchange for a day in the week where it would be less busy so they could do their shopping then instead.

It's funny isn't it people used to manage with longer work hours, shorter opening hours and no on line. You would leave work at 6 and shop on the way home or go on a Saturday when shops closed at 5.30

StitchHappens · 15/08/2025 19:14

jannier · 15/08/2025 19:02

I disagree with Sunday opening or bank holiday opening were addicted to shopping. Having worked for a major supermarket chain in the past I know the pressure put on staff to do hours at the drop of a hat.

Then I think you may have misunderstood my previous post i agree with you completely.
I was trying to point out to the other poster that maybe instead of expecting retail workers to work even longer hours at weekends, the solution would actually be for them to give up a day of their weekend in exchange for a day in the week where it would be less busy so they could do their shopping then instead.

jannier · 15/08/2025 19:02

StitchHappens · 15/08/2025 18:21

So who should be allowed a family life?
I'm not sure where you stand on the Sunday hours being extended?
I am absolutely against increasing sunday hours, probably because I have to work them.
My point is to those arguing for them to be completely disregarded, that surely they should be willing to do the same (ie give up a weekend day for a week day) rather than ask that the minority who already have to give up at least half of their weekend having to lose it all for their convenience.
ETA this is probably where we will end up anyway as more and more places open on Saturdays, the natural next step is for them to open Sundays, so maybe people should be careful what they wish for. If retail should be open for their convenience then surely so should offices, doctors etc for the convenience of others...

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I disagree with Sunday opening or bank holiday opening were addicted to shopping. Having worked for a major supermarket chain in the past I know the pressure put on staff to do hours at the drop of a hat.

Gamerlady · 15/08/2025 18:26

If you actually worked in retail you wouldn't be saying that. We work long enough hours as it is , and family time is very precious. If it was left to me Sundays would stay closed.

StitchHappens · 15/08/2025 18:21

jannier · 15/08/2025 18:09

And sod family life for people with school aged kids.

So who should be allowed a family life?
I'm not sure where you stand on the Sunday hours being extended?
I am absolutely against increasing sunday hours, probably because I have to work them.
My point is to those arguing for them to be completely disregarded, that surely they should be willing to do the same (ie give up a weekend day for a week day) rather than ask that the minority who already have to give up at least half of their weekend having to lose it all for their convenience.
ETA this is probably where we will end up anyway as more and more places open on Saturdays, the natural next step is for them to open Sundays, so maybe people should be careful what they wish for. If retail should be open for their convenience then surely so should offices, doctors etc for the convenience of others...

cardibach · 15/08/2025 18:16

BlueyNeedsToFuckOff · 15/08/2025 10:14

No, I mean I find it boring and find people who insist on it as a virtue sanctimonious.

What exactly is wrong with going to pubs, cafes, restaurants, NT places, cinemas, farm parks etc on a Sunday (as you currently can). Why should we be limited to boring walks and boring reading just because some people have a weird fetish for a 1950s idyll that never existed in practice?

As I said. You find it boring. It is a virtue though to be well informed which reading helps. Nothing sanctimonious about that. And people who enjoy reading aren’t sanctimonious either - I’d sound daft saying people who say I should watch football are sanctimonious.

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 15/08/2025 18:16

jannier · 15/08/2025 18:09

And sod family life for people with school aged kids.

...and what about family life for retail workers with school aged kids? Or do they not matter?

Nanny0gg · 15/08/2025 18:10

Badbadbunny · 14/08/2025 09:59

Why only shops? Surely you'd want everything to be closed so everyone can have this utopian family Sunday, so no cafes, no restaurants, no attractions, no museums, no theme parks, no parks/gardens, etc? How about no call centres so you won't be able to phone your bank or utility firm? Presumably no online shopping deliveries either as the delivery drivers also deserve Sunday's off. But that also means empty shelves in the shops on Monday morning if the warehouse staff and delivery staff in the major distribution centres are off on Sundays! You've really not thought it through! Loads of people work on Sundays, in fact shop workers are probably a small minority!

That's exactly how it was in the 1950s/early 60s

jannier · 15/08/2025 18:09

StitchHappens · 15/08/2025 14:48

Not if everyone worked one weekend day it wouldn't. Then everyone would have a day in the week to do shopping etc. Maybe you should encourage your employer to consider opening Saturdays and Sundays so you could have that option?

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And sod family life for people with school aged kids.

WeekendFreedom · 15/08/2025 17:41

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No it’s not you, the supermarkets can’t win, they will never please everyone with Sunday hours

jannier · 15/08/2025 17:01

BlueyNeedsToFuckOff · 15/08/2025 09:59

Barely survived in some cases.

Reading is boring. And many hobbies require people to be working to facilitate that hobby,

Shopping as entertainment requires you to be working too. Have you heard the adage that boardom is the bedrock of creativity? Parents are great models for their children life's boating unless I'm accumulating possessions every opportunity is pretty shallow.

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 15/08/2025 16:49

StitchHappens · 15/08/2025 14:48

Not if everyone worked one weekend day it wouldn't. Then everyone would have a day in the week to do shopping etc. Maybe you should encourage your employer to consider opening Saturdays and Sundays so you could have that option?

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Exactly. Funny how the solution is always "longer Sunday hours" rather than "I'll work a Sunday and then I can do my shopping on a Wednesday".

Mosaiccat · 15/08/2025 16:44

I'd love supermarkets to be open for longer hours on a Sunday. Families are busy, we work during the week so struggle to get to the supermarket during the week.

PeonyPatch · 15/08/2025 16:16

ThisPlumCrab · 15/08/2025 10:09

Just because we survived at the time doesn't mean it should be like that now.

Exactly

the5thgoldengirl · 15/08/2025 15:11

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StitchHappens · 15/08/2025 14:48

ThisPlumCrab · 15/08/2025 10:43

Mental health is not just about downtime. It is also about reducing stress. For some, Sunday is the only day they can shop without rushing after work. Closing shops could make life more stressful, not less.

Not if everyone worked one weekend day it wouldn't. Then everyone would have a day in the week to do shopping etc. Maybe you should encourage your employer to consider opening Saturdays and Sundays so you could have that option?

jannier · 15/08/2025 11:39

ThisPlumCrab · 15/08/2025 11:19

That assumes everyone who shops on Sunday is doing it for mindless entertainment, which just isn’t true. Many people work long or irregular hours, have caring responsibilities or live in areas where Sunday is their only practical time to shop. Comparing it to a child with a console ignores the reality that for a lot of people, it’s about necessity, not addiction.

But you were the one saying there were no woods and the park near you was so boring....implying for you it's entertainment

jannier · 15/08/2025 11:38

DrPrunesqualer · 15/08/2025 09:45

Hobbies. Reading.
We all survived covid without shops all the time

And most working found they saved loads

ThisPlumCrab · 15/08/2025 11:19

jannier · 15/08/2025 11:09

And some people are just addicted to shopping they've lost the art to amuse themselves just like the children needing constant stimulation it's nothing to do with needing a shop on a Sunday it's not having anything else. Just like a kid with a console shopping is easy mind numbing entertainment

That assumes everyone who shops on Sunday is doing it for mindless entertainment, which just isn’t true. Many people work long or irregular hours, have caring responsibilities or live in areas where Sunday is their only practical time to shop. Comparing it to a child with a console ignores the reality that for a lot of people, it’s about necessity, not addiction.

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jannier · 15/08/2025 11:09

ThisPlumCrab · 15/08/2025 08:36

As I said in my OP not everyone has families.

Not everyone has woods nearby. I have been to my local park thousands of times. It is not a great day out. I can walk wound it in 20 minutes.

And some people are just addicted to shopping they've lost the art to amuse themselves just like the children needing constant stimulation it's nothing to do with needing a shop on a Sunday it's not having anything else. Just like a kid with a console shopping is easy mind numbing entertainment

DrPrunesqualer · 15/08/2025 10:48

Gingercar · 15/08/2025 10:41

I just find this whole thread a little sanctimonious. If you don’t want to go shopping or anything on Sundays, fine. Don’t! If you don’t want your kids to work on Sundays persuade them to get a job on other days. Simples! Just let those of us that are happy working Sundays and having days off mid week, and those that like to shop on Sundays live their lives too! It’s a non issue.

If it was a non issue there wouldn’t be a thread.
Clearly some people feel
shops should be open longer
shops are fine as they are
shops would be better closed

= discussion

DrPrunesqualer · 15/08/2025 10:45

ThisPlumCrab · 15/08/2025 10:43

Mental health is not just about downtime. It is also about reducing stress. For some, Sunday is the only day they can shop without rushing after work. Closing shops could make life more stressful, not less.

Like I said
‘Perhaps’

ThisPlumCrab · 15/08/2025 10:43

DrPrunesqualer · 15/08/2025 10:38

I day a week to entertain yourself isn’t hard
People survived when the shops weren’t open pre mid 80s

Perhaps it would help the souring mh crisis of depression etc. a bit of down time is a good thing

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Mental health is not just about downtime. It is also about reducing stress. For some, Sunday is the only day they can shop without rushing after work. Closing shops could make life more stressful, not less.

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Gingercar · 15/08/2025 10:41

I just find this whole thread a little sanctimonious. If you don’t want to go shopping or anything on Sundays, fine. Don’t! If you don’t want your kids to work on Sundays persuade them to get a job on other days. Simples! Just let those of us that are happy working Sundays and having days off mid week, and those that like to shop on Sundays live their lives too! It’s a non issue.

DrPrunesqualer · 15/08/2025 10:38

ThisPlumCrab · 15/08/2025 10:09

Just because we survived at the time doesn't mean it should be like that now.

I day a week to entertain yourself isn’t hard
People survived when the shops weren’t open pre mid 80s

Perhaps it would help the souring mh crisis of depression etc. a bit of down time is a good thing