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Ahsotired · 13/08/2025 10:50

I went to visit my DB's family for few weeks. They live in another country and I flew with my baby and toddler. I am very conscious of following routines for my DC, especially food times, nap times and sleep routine.
They don't seem to have any routine with their DC. Their younger DC is same age as my older DC. I always used to plan any outing in the evening after both my DC were finished napping and we're fresh and content as I want to avoid any meltdowns and going around with a baby and toddler is hard as it is. Baby was 7 months and older DC is 3.5 years old.
My SIL made a comment that they never made any changes to their pre kids lifestyle and they made their DC to fit in their lifestyle, which meant their 3 yo DC would be awake till 1 am on the weekends when they are out and about with him, getting only 6-8 hours sleep and they have already cut his nap since he was 2. He hasn't got any fixings sleep routine and he sleeps around 11 pm, when they go to bed and wakes at 8 AM. They are not strict with processed food etc and some days he'd just have crisps and biscuits for lunch if he wants. He's very short and under weight, probably something like under 4th centile for his age. She indirectly said that I should be doing whatever I want and not worry about my kid's nap times and feed times etc. I think she's AIBU but wanted to get some perspective from others on this.

OP posts:
DaisyChain505 · 13/08/2025 11:15

You sound uptight.

When on holiday it’s perfectly normal and reasonable to have children napping at different times or on the go and bedtime routine being pushed etc.

It sounds like you were being awkward whilst visiting them and wanting plans set in stone around you and your routine.

Maray1967 · 13/08/2025 11:14

RimTimTagiDim · 13/08/2025 11:03

I'd find it really difficult to have guests who were rigid about following a restrictive routine. It's polite to adapt to your hosts.

No, a compromise is fine, but that should be requested without the comments about how OP should parent differently.

We weren’t rigid over routines, but neither would I have had my DCs out in a buggy at 1am. Not a chance.

RedPony1 · 13/08/2025 11:13

My mum had many horses so we had to fit in to her life, and we did!

GregoryFluff · 13/08/2025 11:13

Listen, every thing about routine aside

Some kids, are just more petite. My youngest daughter is little. They wanted me to stop breast feeding her, did at 8 and a half months. Formula didn't fatten her up, daily high energy prescribed milk and a fortified weaning diet, didn't fatten her up. She's just shy of 14 months, she can toddle, she's fast, can climb anything, has boundless energy. She's just small. Her Dad is 5ft7 and was the same. Still weighed 9 stone at 18, played every sport going to a decent level. Could have easily played cricket for the county if he had wanted, ran cross country. So much of weight and height is genetics. They had me scared to death she was failing to thrive etc...
She's fine, beautiful, a whirlwind
I swear I'm gonna get a sign saying she's 1, just small
People's faces when she's clamboring off at soft play, the farm etc. I'm always in reach, she's fine
There are so many bigger kids now, it stands out more. They'll know he's small
They won't need guilting over it
It gets really fucking boring tbh. Don't give him a complex. They were out of whack, they had visitors. They know their kid. A biscuit won't kill him

Growlybear83 · 13/08/2025 11:12

I think you’re being unreasonable in terms of being so inflexible with routines, but not so much with the food issues. I really don’t see the need for little children to have rigid routines any more than for adults, and I don’t think it should be necessary to make massive changes to your lifestyle when you have children.

Icanttakethisanymore · 13/08/2025 11:12

Routines only matter if you think they matter. Kids don't need routine (although I agree they can make parents' lives easier). The food thing is definitely not good though, nobody can thrive eating rubbish.

BeepBoopBop · 13/08/2025 11:11

You haven’t said where they live. Italy & Spain have a different culture and babes in arms are often out with their parents late in the evening and into the wee hours as that is when it is cooler and they eat much later.
Our experiences with family staying with us and their fixed routines were a bloody misery for all of us and the toddler wouldn’t nap anyway for FOMO so it was a lose lose situation for everyone. Chill out. No one will die.

WhenYouSayNothingAtAll · 13/08/2025 11:11

To answer your actual question, probably neither is wrong. As long as it works for you , the kids and your families, you do you , with some compromise when you are together.

WhenYouSayNothingAtAll · 13/08/2025 11:08

You obviously want us to draw the conclusion that her sub par parenting caused her son to be underweight and short for his age. Otherwise why mention it?

Battels · 13/08/2025 11:07

Ahsotired · 13/08/2025 11:04

I never judged her parenting style but I think it's not always about what parents want when the kids are little babies and toddler, they need to be consistent with the food and nap times especially in my case where I was the one managing them both by myself, I wanted to avoid any meltdowns to enjoy any outing, else it just becomes a difficult day and there's no joy being out and about.

But that’s you dealing with the consequences of the routines you’ve created for your children, presumably because when you’re not staying with someone who does things differently, it suits you.

If, for example, your children were accustomed to napping in a pushchair when out, and eating when hungry rather than at set times, you would be finding a ‘holiday’ situation like the one you’re in much easier.

It’s swings and roundabouts. We do things because they suit us.

Tiswa · 13/08/2025 11:07

Ahsotired · 13/08/2025 10:59

Yes, I agree with this. This is what I suggested but I felt she made digs about how spontaneous she is and I need to not worry about routines much.

That be I kind of think she is right with BUT you were doing it all solo

Maray1967 · 13/08/2025 11:05

RimTimTagiDim · 13/08/2025 11:03

I'd find it really difficult to have guests who were rigid about following a restrictive routine. It's polite to adapt to your hosts.

No, a compromise is fine, but that should be requested without the comments about how OP should parent differently.

We weren’t rigid over routines, but neither would I have had my DCs out in a buggy at 1am. Not a chance.

Ahsotired · 13/08/2025 11:04

I never judged her parenting style but I think it's not always about what parents want when the kids are little babies and toddler, they need to be consistent with the food and nap times especially in my case where I was the one managing them both by myself, I wanted to avoid any meltdowns to enjoy any outing, else it just becomes a difficult day and there's no joy being out and about.

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rainbowstardrops · 13/08/2025 11:04

I agree with the first post that says you’re both at the extremes of a spectrum.
Your SIL sounds as if her children could potentially do with a little bit more of a routine but you sound as if you need to lighten up a bit with your routines.
Like has been said, most people fall somewhere in the middle.

RimTimTagiDim · 13/08/2025 11:03

I'd find it really difficult to have guests who were rigid about following a restrictive routine. It's polite to adapt to your hosts.

Maray1967 · 13/08/2025 11:03

Ahsotired · 13/08/2025 10:59

Yes, I agree with this. This is what I suggested but I felt she made digs about how spontaneous she is and I need to not worry about routines much.

It’s a good job for your SIL that I’m not her SIL. I didn’t take kindly to suggestions that I was parenting wrong and should do it their way. You need to shut her comments down firmly but with a smile - something along the lines of ‘that doesn’t work for our DC. We all know our own DC best, don’t we?’

Maray1967 · 13/08/2025 11:02

Ahsotired · 13/08/2025 10:59

Yes, I agree with this. This is what I suggested but I felt she made digs about how spontaneous she is and I need to not worry about routines much.

It’s a good job for your SIL that I’m not her SIL. I didn’t take kindly to suggestions that I was parenting wrong and should do it their way. You need to shut her comments down firmly but with a smile - something along the lines of ‘that doesn’t work for our DC. We all know our own DC best, don’t we?’

Battels · 13/08/2025 11:00

Ahsotired · 13/08/2025 10:59

Yes, I agree with this. This is what I suggested but I felt she made digs about how spontaneous she is and I need to not worry about routines much.

Well, she’s probably finding it restrictive to have a longterm houseguest who’s rigid about having to arrange outings etc around rigid naptimes and bedtimes.

Battels · 13/08/2025 10:59

Ahsotired · 13/08/2025 10:54

My belief is that parents need to change their lifestyle when they decide to have a baby as babies and kids have different needs and they thrive on routines.

They don’t necessarily, you know. You’ve chosen to change your life, and hence you’ve produced children who are used to routine. For various complex reasons, life was very varied for DS’s first couple of years of life, so he absolutely didn’t get a routine, he napped around whatever else was going on, whether that was in a boardroom in a carrier attached to one of us, or among the coats at a party. Food we never compromised on.

You’re just looking for people to agree that your SIL is a neglectful parent.

Purplecatshopaholic · 13/08/2025 10:59

FamilyPhoto · 13/08/2025 10:57

How about this.
You parent your DC your way.
Your SIL can parent her DC her way.

Nailed it…. Keep your nose out of other peoples parenting style…

Ahsotired · 13/08/2025 10:59

FamilyPhoto · 13/08/2025 10:57

How about this.
You parent your DC your way.
Your SIL can parent her DC her way.

Yes, I agree with this. This is what I suggested but I felt she made digs about how spontaneous she is and I need to not worry about routines much.

OP posts:
Jumpthewaves · 13/08/2025 10:59

You clearly just have different approaches. I actually think having too rigid a routine can make life harder in the long run. It's good to have a bit of flexibility, though I think they've perhaps gone too far the other way.

HoskinsChoice · 13/08/2025 10:59

Ahsotired · 13/08/2025 10:54

My belief is that parents need to change their lifestyle when they decide to have a baby as babies and kids have different needs and they thrive on routines.

Also, kindly, you're not just a mum, you are still a person in your own right. Don't let being a mum fully dominate your life. It's not healthy for you and it's certainly not healthy for your child.

PestoHoliday · 13/08/2025 10:57

Ahsotired · 13/08/2025 10:54

My belief is that parents need to change their lifestyle when they decide to have a baby as babies and kids have different needs and they thrive on routines.

Some thrive on routine, some don't. It's not a one size fits all kind of deal.

FamilyPhoto · 13/08/2025 10:57

How about this.
You parent your DC your way.
Your SIL can parent her DC her way.

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