Are the old meanings of the words woman and man redundant?

I will not call a man a woman. Not a tall woman, not a blue woman, not a bepenised woman, not any kind of woman.

Properly speaking, a trans woman should be a female person with the attribute of being trans (ie who thinks of herself as the opposite sex), just as a left-handed woman is a female person with the attribute of being left-handed. But the trans juggernaut has driven roughshod over language and has appropriated for men the language used to describe women, in their journey to appropriate womanhood and women's spaces. Well I won't go along with it. Woman, together with all its prefixes, is taken.

People with DSDs have asked repeatedly to not be included as some kind of evidence that sex is not binary. They are outliers, v rare and nothing to do with the trans debate.

Tough transwomen are legally and biologically men regardless if what they want. The world and language doesn't revolutionary around what they want and the sooner they get used to that fact the better because other people's rights matter

This.

Also there wasn't a doctor at the birth of either of my DC. There was a midwife but she didn't come with me to register the birth.

Well, it's clear that you know less than fuck all then.

The only people whose sex was ever 'assigned at birth' were a tiny subgroup of people with DSD who were born with truly ambiguous genitalia in the days before genetic testing and other medical advances enabled doctors to work out what sex these babies actually were and what condition they had.

In these circumstances the doctor would 'assign' the baby as either male or female. This 'assignment' generally went along with traumatic, non-consensual 'corrective' surgery to make the baby's genitals more closely match the category to which they had been assigned. Most were 'assigned' female because it's easier to surgically remove something than to construct something.

Those were the bad old days.

The current usage is not 'the official term' it's TRA propaganda. It's designed to make people think that sex is arbitrary or a spectrum or in some other way not clear cut or not important. It's yet another example of TRAs appropriating the experience of people with DSDs for their own ends - something they've been doing since at least the early 1940s.

This is called sea-lioning.

When it comes to “trans women are women” this should be borne in mind…

You can't be this naive and I think you are on a wind-up.

Oh my! The word 'assigned' really is the wrong word to use, as many of us have pointed out.

You're right that no-one can change sex though.

Well he can, but whether that makes it a reality is a different matter entirely.

Neither can a man claim to be a woman. It is a mathematical impossibility

Btw, doctors don’t ‘assign’ anything. That is activist language again designed to undermine the binary. The sex of a baby is often known before birth. We knew the chromosomes of my baby at 20 weeks.

Have a think about women that give birth completely on their own. Their baby still has a sex, despite no doctor ‘assigning’ it. How did people have a sex before doctors were invented?

It really seems like knowledge is going backwards. How do people not know how babies work?

I agree with your last sentence but the rest of your post is incorrect.

As Spannasaurus points out the sex is fixed at conception but embryo differentiation occurs at 6 weeks.

Have a think about IVF and embryo implantation. Sex selection can take place on day 3 after fertilisation of the egg when there are enough cells available to test the chromosomes. Our sex is determined by our chromosomes. Anomalies do not constitute other sexes - there is only male and female.

Unfortunately the resources on this you appear to have found so far are lies produced by activists. Look up Emma Hilton, an expert on the subject (also called fondofbeetles on X) for some truthful information, not trans activist propaganda trying to undermine the concept of sex for their own ends.

Sex is determined at conception. The default sex of a foetus is not female. The reproductive structures are undifferentiated for first six weeks but the foetus is still male or female.

Oh my, it is assigned by the doctor! After observing the baby. Now, in 99.9....% that is the sex of the baby.
And nope, sex is not fully determined at conception (only). But it starts around the sixth week of pregnancy. If all goes well, it matches the genetic XX or XY. Look it up, it is really fascinating. Default human is female, by the way.
The term assigned itself is not wrong. No need to really argue about it. Have a look at Southampton Children Hospital on sex assignment in newborn babies.

No one can change sex, anyway.

If the words 'woman' and 'man' are redundant, then so must the words we use for other adult animals ; bulls, hens, mares, ewes, etc.

MushMonster · Today 11:36
As far as I know, yes, it is the official term for all of us. We all get a sex assigned at birth.
Most of us never thinks twice about it.

The NHS got sued by women who were told the incorrect sex during a scan as the external sex organs were missed or another body part was assigned that role(?). Which is one reason why some Trust have a policy to refuse to sex a child during any pre birth managment.

As I said nit picking 🙃

By law its "register" by telling the Register known facts.

Probably. But I have zero fucks to give. I think clarity around the issue of sex is vital and I prefer to call male-born folk .... men 🙂

Official by whom?

Doctors may have used that term in the pre-DNA days when there was limited understanding or methods to classify individual babies and used that term to recognise their limitations and possible error.

My understanding is that the current training would be to recognise that there is a disorder and await for test result?

Then we need new people. And dictionaries!