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SIL coming on family celebration holiday without her husband. (MNHQ update at OP's request) Now everyone is chatting in their own language and excluding me.

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Timedifference · 11/08/2025 20:26

So, a few of us are going away to celebrate a big birthday.
SIL is coming without her husband cos he doesn't like flying and the birthday boy has picked an overseas destination.

We go on Thursday. I found out today she's coming.
She tends to monopolise my DH when she's with him - ive got a horrible feeling she'll be whispering in his ear most of the time. I hope im wrong.

AIBU to not look forward to this break anymore?
I don't want her to be lonely but she fusses over him like hes a child and I get shoved to one side.

OP posts:
BlueMum16 · 20/08/2025 16:49

Your choice to stay behind. They've tried to include you.

Timedifference · 20/08/2025 16:46

But they all speak English.
They live in London!

Its 35 degrees.
Out late last night.
Out again tonight.

Ive said I get a headache from the sun & heat & need to be in the shade from.12 till 2.

OP posts:
PamIsAVolleyballChamp · 20/08/2025 16:19

Ymiryboo · 20/08/2025 16:13

If the rest of the party speak x language then it’s op that should learn new language or live with not understanding

Absolutely, how arrogant (and embarrassing) to demand the language people speak is yours!

Ymiryboo · 20/08/2025 16:13

CharlotteStreetW1 · 11/08/2025 20:42

Oh I wouldn't be having that. I would just say "In English please" every time (or better still secretly learn their language yourself 🤭).

If the rest of the party speak x language then it’s op that should learn new language or live with not understanding

BlueMum16 · 20/08/2025 16:11

I also don't see the issue with the walk.

You should remind them English please for conversations when you are present.

DaisyChain505 · 20/08/2025 16:04

You sound awkward and like you have an issue with everything.

If I was visiting family and they told me to be ready for 12 as they’d planned a nice walk for us I wouldn’t see it as an issue.

Timedifference · 20/08/2025 13:30

UPDATE: So we've been here for a few days.
Sister hasn't been a problem but meals are, cos they speak in their own language.
I was going to tell them that by doing this, I'm excluded from the conversation and I find it rude.
Events overtook this: I was told to be ready by 12 today for a booked walk.
I said no-one asked me.
I'm an adult.
Then im told the ticket has been bought.
I said noone asked me before spending the money and im not walking in the heat.

A previous poster was right and I see it clearly now: Ive got a problem with being regarded as a child. Im over 45 FFS!

OP posts:
Timedifference · 14/08/2025 11:48

Mixedbananas, that's so similar to my experience.

OP posts:
MixedBananas · 13/08/2025 11:44

My DHs sode of the family speak fouent English 2nd Language yet when they are together choose theie 1st language ane exclude me. I have also said to him many times how bloody rude it is. As me and my parents are fluent in Arabic and we never use it infeont of him or exclude him even though my Dad prefera Arabic he chooses English to not make my DH feel left out. But my inlaws don't give a crap.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 12/08/2025 20:40

She is entitled to go on the holiday, why isn't your focus on your DH, surely he has a voice to speak up for you.
He is aware that it makes you feel uncomfortable, yet he participates happily.

Notmy1stRodeo · 12/08/2025 20:36

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pineapplesundae · 12/08/2025 20:19

Maybe they’re catching up on family business. Just go have fun with the children and not worry so much about.

Skybluepinky · 12/08/2025 19:57

Why did you marry someone and learn learn to speak their language, you were always going to feel left out!

Definitelynotagladiator · 12/08/2025 18:17

OP have you ever read Pride and Prejudice? Lady Catherine De Bourgh would say “I MUST have my share in the conversation!”

Or you could say ‘What are you two whispering about?’

Timedifference · 12/08/2025 08:59

You've helped me to see things in a different way.

I can be talking to my husband in English and she or something else will come along and start speaking their own language in front of me, my brain cant switch over that fast.
Ill go with an open mind & go with the flow.

OP posts:
Issahotone · 12/08/2025 08:55

jackstini · 12/08/2025 08:00

Then don’t say ‘please speak English’
Say ‘please stop whispering, it’s rude’
or ’Please speak up, I can’t hear’

This. And also how is it the sister monopolising his time? Why is it being framed as if she’s the one controlling this?

He’s a grown man and if she really is ignoring all of you and he does the same - well he is fully complicit and is the one you should be focused on, OP.

Neither of my brothers have kids but I have a close male friend with two young kids and a wife. When I spend time with them I couldn’t “monopolise” his time even if I wanted to.

I don’t think he would stand for his family being ignored and also his wife goes out of her way to welcome me so we have our own chats. She also encourages the kids to interact with “Aunty”.

Basically they all make feel so welcome. But even if that wasn’t the case I just can’t imagine constantly pulling my mate away for whispered chats the whole time , ignoring his whole family and him being ok and going along with all that.

dreamingbohemian · 12/08/2025 08:20

Agree with others, you can't tell them to speak in English, I don't think you understand how rude that would be. My DH is French, when we see his family I understand hes going to speak to them in French most of the time and its fine, its just a small bit of time in the years we have together.

AgentJohnson · 12/08/2025 08:14

Why is your SIL getting the heat for your rubbish H and rocky marriage? I get that it’s easier pointing the finger, then dealing with the problem but won’t change anything.

Snoken · 12/08/2025 08:10

@CopperWhite That's exactly it. I am not from an English speaking country either. I obviously understand and speak it but it would feel very strange and unnatural for me to only speak to my family in English because there is somebody around who doesn't speak our language. I would obviously speak English if that person is involved in the conversation, but I wouldn't be speaking to my sister in English just because the person who don't understand is in the vicinity. Doesn't mean we are gossiping about that person or that we are trying to be rude, it just means that we are speaking to each other in the language we have been using since we were toddlers.

curious79 · 12/08/2025 08:09

There is going to be a buzz buzz in his ear and they will speak their own language because that’s what they grew up speaking to one another in.

Honestly, I really think you’ve just got to be the bigger person here. Accept they gossip and they will enjoy it and let them get on with it. Be friendly and go into this weekend thinking come Hell or Highwater you’ll have a good time. Sit next to someone else at dinner who you like.

CopperWhite · 12/08/2025 08:05

You can’t reasonably stop a brother and sister communicating in the language they grew up using. Their relationship is not about you.

Obviously I don’t know how fluent they both are in English but it can be exhausting for some people to be forced to constantly talk in their second or third language. This is not how people should be made to feel when they are spending time with their family. You shouldn’t be deliberately excluded, but they shouldn’t have to revolve all their chat around you being able to understand either.

Make some effort to learn their language and you might feel less excluded.

jackstini · 12/08/2025 08:00

Timedifference · 12/08/2025 07:53

It doesn't matter if I learn the language fluently or not - she's whispering to him and I cant hear it properly.
Its the monopolising of his time.
Its as if the children & i dont exist.

Then don’t say ‘please speak English’
Say ‘please stop whispering, it’s rude’
or ’Please speak up, I can’t hear’

MounjaroMounjaro · 12/08/2025 07:57

Your husband doesn't sound very nice, OP.

Regarding the seats on the plane - can you change your seat?

Timedifference · 12/08/2025 07:53

It doesn't matter if I learn the language fluently or not - she's whispering to him and I cant hear it properly.
Its the monopolising of his time.
Its as if the children & i dont exist.

OP posts:
Issahotone · 12/08/2025 00:46

PamIsAVolleyballChamp · 11/08/2025 22:00

This, they've obviously both learned a new language to converse with you in English so why are you not learning their language? Aren't you embarrassed?

Yeah my friend married a Vietnamese woman and he learned the language. Another friend did the same with learning Korean after her Korean fiancé moved to the UK for her.

Some Languages can be hard so fair play if you can’t learn it to a decent level
but don’t agree you should be trying to stop them conversing in their native language.

My partner is Spanish and I’m trying to learn Spanish - both for myself and for him too. I’ve always enjoyed languages though and I appreciate it’s not the same for everyone.

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