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To feel inconvenienced by a tragic accident?

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OnemargarIta · 11/08/2025 11:36

I'm currently in Italy (staying in Rome) for three nights. It's my first foreign break in a warm country and I've been so excited and saved up especially.

We booked an excursion for today consisting of a trip to Sorrento where we'd spend time exploring, visiting shops and enjoying local food - and then on to Pompeii on the route back.

We've spent the whole morning/day so far stuck in traffic on the motor way. We are so behind schedule we can now no longer go to Sorrento first because Pompeii closes at 5.30 and there won't be time. A sit down restaurant meal will now be replaced by a takeaway which will be eaten on the coach.

We've just been told the cause of the traffic jam and it's because somebody has died in a collision on the motorway.

Instead of feeling saddened about the loss of life I just feel inconvenienced and pissed off that the highlight of my trip has been ruined.

Does this make me a shitty person? It just occurred that it might 😳

OP posts:
nomas · 13/08/2025 15:25

Justchilling07 · 13/08/2025 14:28

She’s repeating it, laughing at it.Does that then make it ok, no.

Why didn’t you say anything to the person who said it? Why pick on OP?

Justchilling07 · 13/08/2025 14:28

nomas · 13/08/2025 12:29

You get that she’s not the one who said ‘get up, you fucker’, right? She’s quoting someone else.

She’s repeating it, laughing at it.Does that then make it ok, no.

WhereIsMyJumper · 13/08/2025 13:56

LemonCheesecake2025 · 13/08/2025 13:54

I have said I would feel sad and disappointed about the trip.

I don't know why you picked me and kept saying I didn't understand what is was when I clearly did. It was very annoying.

I might have mixed you up with another poster in the case. If I did then I apologise.

LemonCheesecake2025 · 13/08/2025 13:54

WhereIsMyJumper · 13/08/2025 13:52

No I haven’t. I’ve been referring to actual virtue signalling. What you describe there isn’t it. I even said myself I would feel sad for the family so clearly I don’t think that’s virtue signalling, do I?

I have said I would feel sad and disappointed about the trip.

I don't know why you picked me and kept saying I didn't understand what is was when I clearly did. It was very annoying.

WhereIsMyJumper · 13/08/2025 13:52

LemonCheesecake2025 · 13/08/2025 13:50

That's fine but you have been angrily calling people virtue signallers for saying that they would feel a bit sad for a stranger losing their life. Nobody was offering to set up a just giving page for their family or go to the funeral.

No I haven’t. I’ve been referring to actual virtue signalling. What you describe there isn’t it. I even said myself I would feel sad for the family so clearly I don’t think that’s virtue signalling, do I?

LemonCheesecake2025 · 13/08/2025 13:50

WhereIsMyJumper · 13/08/2025 13:37

Very well put and this makes a lot of sense.
Ive been there, too. My circle used to be huge but I got taken advantage of a lot and have had to toughen up and only focus on what I can change.
A lot of people find it exhausting to take on everyone else’s emotional pain and I get it totally. We are all different.

That's fine but you have been angrily calling people virtue signallers for saying that they would feel a bit sad for a stranger losing their life. Nobody was offering to set up a just giving page for their family or go to the funeral.

Justchilling07 · 13/08/2025 13:48

WhereIsMyJumper · 13/08/2025 13:15

Why does anyone who posts on here think that anyone else wants to know anything about them or what they think?
And clearly, plenty of people did want to know looking at the amount of replies she got.

Because op will do another thread, l personally would prefer to know, what their previous posts were, just like an op would know what my previous posts are.
(This post, wasn’t personal to op, self identifying, why would anyone assume it was op, when many people were there🙄) Many wouldn’t have clicked onto her thread, if they were aware on how she converses with posters who dare disagree with her.Disagree with this op, you will get their wrath, just about sums it up

Maverickess · 13/08/2025 13:42

If you can put it into context, as in you've been inconvenienced and disappointed but someone's loved ones are already having or about to have the worst day of their life because someone else has died, then I think that makes you normal.

I don't think you have to feel sadness at a complete strangers death to the point that you're upset yourself to recognise that while your inconvenience and disappointment is important to you, it's not the most important feeling in the whole situation that's had far worse outcomes than yours.

I think the difference is blame, you can acknowledge that sometimes life and death disrupt things and that stuff just happens and while you're disappointed and inconvenienced, it's part of being around other people and nature, of just existing, and there's no one to blame for it happening, to expect a sorry from, sometimes stuff like this happens and you just suck it up.

Some people on this thread are just bonkers though, I mean I'm quite a sympathetic and empathetic person, but even I would feel disappointed at not being able to do something I'd been looking forward to, while able to acknowledge that the situation has far worse concequences for others than for me.

Letmehaveabloodyusernameplease · 13/08/2025 13:38

WhereIsMyJumper · 13/08/2025 13:33

Because of the context you used it in. You were trying to justify all the vile attacks on the OP by using a loved one’s death as emotional blackmail. I found it jarring.

I most certainly was not!
I was giving context to try to make her understand that whoever was in the accident where she was wasn't just an inconvenience but a real person with a family and friends who were now going to get the worst news of their lives.
The attitude from OP was what riled me.
And, as I said, the 'damn, what a wake up call', was insincere in my opinion.
I dont dwell on or use my BIL's death to gain sympathy, I've had many other things happen to me after that and I'm getting along just fine, thankyou.

WhereIsMyJumper · 13/08/2025 13:37

myplace · 13/08/2025 13:34

Those of you struggling to make sense of other people’s behaviour, this might help.

People all draw bubbles or circles around themselves regarding what does and doesn’t count. Everyone draws their circle differently. Some people draw their circle really tight in- often because in their immediate circle there is already more stress and need than they can manage.

Some people have a heart as big as the world and are able to manage to care about everything- just a bit. Some people have a smaller circle but are passionate and active about everything within that circle.

Caring about everything a bit doesn’t make you better than caring about just a few things more passionately.

I had to draw my circle closer in because I was getting burnt out. I was passionate and active about too much. Now I care about things I can change. Nothing else. I don’t waste emotion on situations I can’t affect.

Very well put and this makes a lot of sense.
Ive been there, too. My circle used to be huge but I got taken advantage of a lot and have had to toughen up and only focus on what I can change.
A lot of people find it exhausting to take on everyone else’s emotional pain and I get it totally. We are all different.

myplace · 13/08/2025 13:34

Those of you struggling to make sense of other people’s behaviour, this might help.

People all draw bubbles or circles around themselves regarding what does and doesn’t count. Everyone draws their circle differently. Some people draw their circle really tight in- often because in their immediate circle there is already more stress and need than they can manage.

Some people have a heart as big as the world and are able to manage to care about everything- just a bit. Some people have a smaller circle but are passionate and active about everything within that circle.

Caring about everything a bit doesn’t make you better than caring about just a few things more passionately.

I had to draw my circle closer in because I was getting burnt out. I was passionate and active about too much. Now I care about things I can change. Nothing else. I don’t waste emotion on situations I can’t affect.

WhereIsMyJumper · 13/08/2025 13:33

Letmehaveabloodyusernameplease · 13/08/2025 13:32

Yeah, that was to me when I said my 29 year old BIL was killed weeks after his wife had a baby.
How nice of you.

Because of the context you used it in. You were trying to justify all the vile attacks on the OP by using a loved one’s death as emotional blackmail. I found it jarring.

Letmehaveabloodyusernameplease · 13/08/2025 13:32

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Yeah, that was to me when I said my 29 year old BIL was killed weeks after his wife had a baby.
How nice of you.

WhereIsMyJumper · 13/08/2025 13:29

Justchilling07 · 13/08/2025 13:25

l don’t need you to explain, to be patronised yet again by you.Couldn’t care less what you think, how many times have you used ‘clutching at straws’ to other posters of here🙄you are not going to change my view, with your bullish stance.

Ok… cool?

Justchilling07 · 13/08/2025 13:28

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Justchilling07 · 13/08/2025 13:25

WhereIsMyJumper · 13/08/2025 13:17

There is nothing wrong with name changing. You’re allowed to do it yourself if you want to. I’ve explained upthread why she may have done it - possibly for the same reasons I have. She’s easily identifiable to people she knows simply by saying she is on holiday in a certain place, going to do a certain thing and was caught up in this accident - which is something she will probably tell people irl about.

I think you’re really clutching at straws here.

l don’t need you to explain, to be patronised yet again by you.Couldn’t care less what you think, how many times have you used ‘clutching at straws’ to other posters of here🙄you are not going to change my view, with your bullish stance.

WhereIsMyJumper · 13/08/2025 13:24

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WhereIsMyJumper · 13/08/2025 13:21

Justchilling07 · 13/08/2025 13:18

Hmm, you find it very self important, what a surprise, is it because some of your comments have been taken down and you’re agreeing with comments that are breaking MN guidelines.None of of my comments have been taken down, for a reason because l haven’t broke MN guidelines.Surely you understand if you come onto this forum some comments will be taken down, whether you agree or not, they are deemed as unacceptable.

I didn’t even know any of my comments had been taken down Confused

And as I said before, that’s not really the gotcha you think it is as MN is notoriously trigger happy when it comes to deleting reported posts. Someone had theirs deleted because they accused me of having no emotional intelligence and I didn’t even report it! I didn’t actually think it felt like a personal attack tbh.

But some are advocating for the whole thread to be deleted just because they don’t like it. And we are saying just don’t read it if you don’t like it?!

Justchilling07 · 13/08/2025 13:18

WhereIsMyJumper · 13/08/2025 13:00

This. I’ve just gone back and reread all of OP’s posts and honestly, there have been far far worse from the other side.

I see this a lot on here - people disagree with the content of a thread and because they don’t like it, they believe it should be taken down. I find it very self important. That anyone should think entire threads should be deleted because they personally don’t like them.

There are plenty of topics I find upsetting, I just don’t engage with them.

Hmm, you find it very self important, what a surprise, is it because some of your comments have been taken down and you’re agreeing with comments that are breaking MN guidelines.None of of my comments have been taken down, for a reason because l haven’t broke MN guidelines.Surely you understand if you come onto this forum some comments will be taken down, whether you agree or not, they are deemed as unacceptable.

WhereIsMyJumper · 13/08/2025 13:17

Justchilling07 · 13/08/2025 13:08

No they don’t name change all the time, why would they need to, it’s a anonymous forum🙄I don’t and there are many others that don’t, because they have nothing to hide, their username doesn’t just disappear overnight.So when she starts another thread, there’s no history of what she’s said before and the posters who don’t name change are easily identifiable what’s fair about that.She’s already said she recognises many of the usernames on here.
It’s different if someone has a personal issue, but this thread is not personal to op, is it.
Yes, op, calling people weirdo’s and you agreeing with it, but of course that’s ok, that’s not nasty at all is it🙄

There is nothing wrong with name changing. You’re allowed to do it yourself if you want to. I’ve explained upthread why she may have done it - possibly for the same reasons I have. She’s easily identifiable to people she knows simply by saying she is on holiday in a certain place, going to do a certain thing and was caught up in this accident - which is something she will probably tell people irl about.

I think you’re really clutching at straws here.

WhereIsMyJumper · 13/08/2025 13:15

LemonCheesecake2025 · 13/08/2025 13:05

I didnt find it upsetting just weird.

Talking of self importance. Why did OP think anyone wanted to know how she felt about the accident and victim?

Why does anyone who posts on here think that anyone else wants to know anything about them or what they think?
And clearly, plenty of people did want to know looking at the amount of replies she got.

Justchilling07 · 13/08/2025 13:08

nomas · 13/08/2025 12:44

Eh? People name change all the time. Some people name change every month.

And she has explained she name changed to avoid weirdos following her on to other threads, which is perfectly valid given the vitriol on this thread.

No they don’t name change all the time, why would they need to, it’s a anonymous forum🙄I don’t and there are many others that don’t, because they have nothing to hide, their username doesn’t just disappear overnight.So when she starts another thread, there’s no history of what she’s said before and the posters who don’t name change are easily identifiable what’s fair about that.She’s already said she recognises many of the usernames on here.
It’s different if someone has a personal issue, but this thread is not personal to op, is it.
Yes, op, calling people weirdo’s and you agreeing with it, but of course that’s ok, that’s not nasty at all is it🙄

Volturra · 13/08/2025 13:06

Letmehaveabloodyusernameplease · 13/08/2025 12:52

The top and bottom of it is, this thread didn't need to be started in the first place.
Would you start a thread of this nature?
I know I wouldn't.
Some things are best kept to yourself.

I find it odd that you think it's such a taboo.

The whole reason I was initially interested in the thread was it made me wonder what other people did think - I've never really questioned my own reaction (which is to understand the situation is sad, but not to actually experience sadness personally) and I wondered how it stacked up.

I'd think the op was callous if she made the comment to someone actually caught up in a situation, but I really don't see why it's verboten on an anonymous forum.

LemonCheesecake2025 · 13/08/2025 13:05

WhereIsMyJumper · 13/08/2025 13:00

This. I’ve just gone back and reread all of OP’s posts and honestly, there have been far far worse from the other side.

I see this a lot on here - people disagree with the content of a thread and because they don’t like it, they believe it should be taken down. I find it very self important. That anyone should think entire threads should be deleted because they personally don’t like them.

There are plenty of topics I find upsetting, I just don’t engage with them.

I didnt find it upsetting just weird.

Talking of self importance. Why did OP think anyone wanted to know how she felt about the accident and victim?

WhereIsMyJumper · 13/08/2025 13:00

nomas · 13/08/2025 12:56

It’s not for you to decide what people can discuss.

You don’t like it, you opt out.

This. I’ve just gone back and reread all of OP’s posts and honestly, there have been far far worse from the other side.

I see this a lot on here - people disagree with the content of a thread and because they don’t like it, they believe it should be taken down. I find it very self important. That anyone should think entire threads should be deleted because they personally don’t like them.

There are plenty of topics I find upsetting, I just don’t engage with them.