To feel inconvenienced by a tragic accident?

MN has definitely made me less critical of the Karen meme. I used to think it was basically an excuse to be misogynistic to middle-aged women, but some of the posts on MN have made me realise it's often justified. I've seen threads where posters advise women to complain to the manager because an employee asked a woman not to shoplift, or asked a mother to start paying for the soft play she'd been sneaking her kids into for months. There's a section of white middle-class women who genuinely seem to believe they are princesses.

The fact that a quarter of MNers are on the OP's side says it all. I wonder if this is partly because the OP is in Italy, and therefore the victim might be "a bit forrin". Imagine if someone had posted something similar about, say, Sarah Everard's murder - the results would be about 99% YABU. Because she was a white woman.

yes it does. Sometimes we lack empathy through lack of experience. I would be sitting in the jam thinking about my DFriend who died in a crash, and who’s inconvenient death closed a major motorway for several hours.

This. The trains in Italy are brilliant.

YABU. Partly for not researching the journey properly and mainly for going on the internet and voicing your annoyance at someone else's death.

Honestly if this happened to me, yes I would feel some disappointment. However I would focus on my gratitude for the fact that it wasn’t MY life ended, or anybody I know or love, and that we all get to go on living. perspective?!

Accidents happen.. your trip sounds jam packed and hectic time leave more time for contingency!
I don’t think this makes you a shitty person though. X

I believe the expression is "Shit happens" get over it.

OP asked for opinions.

Also to be clear I don't think you're a shitty person for feeling annoyed and frustrated.

You're a shitty person to come online and put time and energy into doing a weird edgelord brag about not caring about people you don't know, instead of just keeping the annoyance inside your head and reminding yourself to have some goddamn perspective.

The issue is how long does it take to deal with the initial incident? If the injured are treated and casualties taken to an appropriate place, as well as debris removed then few people would have an issue. It's the s l o w process of information gathering, measuring, tea breaks, chatting and issues which could be dealt with by camera evidence, photographs that cause people to be frustrated. Interestingly the same incident on a major road or when a VIP is due will be dealt with a lot sooner than delay to plebs. Why so?

What difference would it make? None at all.

Yes, I would consider you a shitty person. Suppose it was your mother, husband, child who had died and you heard someone was pissed off because it ruined their day out?

There’s a family out there grieving a lost loved one while you're grieving a lost tourist day.

Of course they would. They just like to sound sanctimonious on MN.
it’s perfectly normal to feel a huge amount of empathy and pissed if that your trio has been negatively affected.

i’m imagining all these saintly people on MN on a trip of a lifetime they’ve saved up for years feeling nothing but sympathy when their trip is completely derailed by a series of traffic events. 😂

What you’re experiencing, including the self-doubt which comes from a degree of self-awareness, is the same thing as people going on holiday and laughing and drinking and partying when their daily newsfeed if full of people dying of starvation/ children being bombed/ women being used as weapons of war etc. All animals including humans have a capacity for closing their minds to people they don’t know. It’s what makes “friends and family” a thing, at times to significant that the consequences are enshrined in law. I think it’s to do with our relationship with death.

To me, it’s enough that you’re asking yourself if you’re a shitty person and accepting that you might be. It makes you human. We all do it. The more you think about tragedy, the closer you get to death yourself, the less you’ll ask yourself this question.

Why on earth would you outwardly say this.

Some things are best kept to yourself.

It could have been a stolen car, or someone high on drugs and/or alcohol or just an innocent person in unfortunate circumstances - it's pointless speculating when you don't know the circumstances.
I think you can be frustrated, fed up and sympathetic and grateful all at the same time. We're not black and white creatures. I wouldn't get hung up on it, just enjoy the rest of your time.

Of course you are.

Your also being unreasonable thinking that you can drive from Rome to Sorrento, explore Sorrento, drive to Pompeii and explore that all in one day!!!

I think your reaction is just a sign of the times, people only really care about themselves now and have an inability to adapt if things aren’t perfect and instagram-ready.

Since you ask - yes it does make you a shitty person.

Isn't the point that yes, it's normal to feel disappointed and frustrated by your own plans being inconvenienced, but the fact that someone DIED means that you put that into perspective? Because what you're going through is nothing compared to what the dead person's loved ones are going through, and at least you're alive to see Pompeii another day?

No one's saying you can't feel frustrated but it's shitty to make that your overriding emotion to the extent that you feel it necessary to go online and try to be edgy about it.

How dare she feels pissed because some person died.

I think it's normal to feel inconvenienced but yes a decent person would also feel something for the person who has lost their life I think - apart from anything else, there but for the grace of god. I remember years ago a train being terminated at an earlier stop due to someone getting hit by a train, and we had to get a replacement bus. Someone behind me on their phone telling someone else they'd be a bit late and saying 'why does this always happen to me'. That was really shit.

Yes it’s okay to be annoyed at the inconvenience - however, I think the overwhelming feeling should be gratefulness that the worst news you got today is that you won’t get to stop off in Sorrento and not that someone you love has died in a tragic accident.

The fact that you had to ask the question...

ME ME ME

Absolutely.

It's a shame you missed part of your trip, but you can always rebook and go another time. The poor sod lying dead in the road can't rebook their life, can they?